David Luiz

[GhanaBoy 104]

Just go to listen to the foreigners when they first come to chelsea, ( perfect ex. Being salah) they speak of how they are welcome by luiz more so due to his big personality than say terry and lampard( of course they welcome them but luiz is simply luiz) if you look at ivanovic , Cahill, etc they do not compare to luiz( and you know it) in embrasing a newcomer. P.S. Think about it , if you were a newcomer to the chelsea squad ( take out lampard, terry, and Cech who are obligated to welcome a newcomer because of their position in the club...) who do you think is likely to welcome you ?

[bushman 2,043]

No team can afford to keep a player just because he welcomes other people warmly. Lol.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Great deal for 39m.

[bushman 2,043]

Great deal for 39m.

If true, much better than I expected. Some people thought this samba boy was deemed to become Chelsea´s captain. Lol.

To me, too erratic as a defender, a bit better than an average midfielder & too wild on his free kicks.

That amount of money is even better than Mata´s to Manures.

[Fernando 6,497]

I agree to some extent, but if the locker room aspect and the guy's amazing personality are the only arguments in favour of keeping a player who will fetch us €40m then it really is a no-brainer to sell him. I'm pretty sure Luiz himself also favors a move elsewhere because at a club like Barcelona he can be their first choice CB but at Chelsea he will still be 3rd choice at best next season.

Also, I would argue that we have plenty of strong locker room players in the core of our team. You know, players like Cahill, Ivanovic, Azpi and Matic, all of whom are actually contributing on the pitch as well and not just in the locker room.

Cahill might be good on the pitch, but not a natural leader for me.

After Terry leaves...which god knows who then it has to be someone that command respect like it was Terry and Lampard.

So as to all the players out their in the field I don't think I see anyone with that attitude.

David Luiz is a friendly character but not in the mold of Kompany, Terry, Gerrard, Lampard and such.

I think this is why despite Cole might be leaving, as well Lampard, Terry is still vital for us. Because we have yet to get that natural leader in our team.

And the price on DL being quoted is on Euros, don't confuse Euro vs Pounds.

I guess that would put us at 33 million pounds if it's the range of 39 million Euros

[Pizy 18,515]

I highly doubt we'll get 40m for him.

Anything over 30m is decent business, really. Hope that cash is immediately invested in a CM just like the Mata money was.

[Jype 6,398]

Cahill might be good on the pitch, but not a natural leader for me.

After Terry leaves...which god knows who then it has to be someone that command respect like it was Terry and Lampard.

So as to all the players out their in the field I don't think I see anyone with that attitude.

David Luiz is a friendly character but not in the mold of Kompany, Terry, Gerrard, Lampard and such.

I think this is why despite Cole might be leaving, as well Lampard, Terry is still vital for us. Because we have yet to get that natural leader in our team.

And the price on DL being quoted is on Euros, don't confuse Euro vs Pounds.

I guess that would put us at 33 million pounds if it's the range of 39 million Euros

Fully aware of the difference between GBP and EUR as I happen to live in a country that uses the Euro.

€39m = £32m, no matter the currency it would still be a shitload of money for a benchwarmer.

Anyway I'll leave the locker room stuff to Jose because surely he knows better, after all he is working with the lads every day. If he feels Luiz won't be missed in neither the pitch or the dressing room and that the money is better off spent elsewhere, I will trust him completely.

[Sovieticus 743]

€39m = £32m, no matter the currency it would still be a shitload of money for a benchwarmer.

Well Mata was a kind of a bench warmer too

[Jype 6,398]

Well Mata was a kind of a bench warmer too

Yes, and because of that selling him was the right thing to do.

[Fernando 6,497]

Yes, and because of that selling him was the right thing to do.

We could sell Oscar, Hazard, Matic and everybody if we wanted.

What makes the "right" thing to do is if either we have the right replacement or use the money to buy someone better.

[pachman40 357]

I'll be sad when David leaves, but happy for Chelsea to cash good money for him. Had some good discussions in this thread earlier in the season and it looks as though Mourinho's team sheet had a bunch of round holes. David is a square peg and just didn't have the proper fit in this system. There are a couple of rich teams with some square holes in their defence and it will be good for Chelsea to take advantage of their wallets, but seeing David eventually flourish at Barca or PSG or wherever he ends up will always leave me wondering why we couldn't machine one of our round holes a bit for him, he'll be a legend at his next team. I agree with most people here that we need to cash in on him, but that doesn't mean I need to agree with their opinions of him as a player. Some will say I overvalue him, I will say others undervalue him. In the end it doesn't matter as long as Mourinho uses that money to help fill the holes and we progress as a team next season. That's what we all want, isn't it?

[Jype 6,398]

We could sell Oscar, Hazard, Matic and everybody if we wanted.

What makes the "right" thing to do is if either we have the right replacement or use the money to buy someone better.

We could sell any one of those three but then we'd be selling a starter, which Mata most certainly was not. Mata had already been replaced by Willian earlier in the season so we didn't need to spend all of the 37m pounds on a direct replacement. I would guess that most of that money is still there to be spent this summer on a striker or a central midfielder, which are both very much priorities over having a player of Mata's quality warming the bench.

[Fernando 6,497]

We could sell any one of those three but then we'd be selling a starter, which Mata most certainly was not. Mata had already been replaced by Willian earlier in the season so we didn't need to spend all of the 37m pounds on a direct replacement. I would guess that most of that money is still there to be spent this summer on a striker or a central midfielder, which are both very much priorities over having a player of Mata's quality warming the bench.

Just because Mata was warming the bench a bit does not means nothing.

He had two good seasons, it's hard to sustain insane season back to back.

David Silva at City had two good season, one bad season and then a better season.

Under Benitez Lampard and Terry was bench warmer.

It's all depending in the state of the player and who's managing the team.

But I keep stating, you could sell anyone in the team as long as you have the proper target lineup.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Fee agreed apparently, £32m or 40m euros. A bit overpriced imo but won't complain, now time to sign someone like Pogba or Vidal if we can to replace him.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Fee agreed apparently, £32m or 40m euros. A bit overpriced imo but won't complain, now time to sign someone like Pogba or Vidal if we can to replace him.

Source?

And why would we get Pogba? I never understood this sudden interest for him in some fans, when we have a gem of a youth product named Chalobah who's potential could be enormous when integrated properly. Isn't that what this club needs? Some identity? Or will we cast him aside like United did with Pogba, (mind you he was less talented than Chalobah currently when he was shipped off). Not to mention we have Romeu coming back, who I think will be a big help for us, and MVG coming back from injury.

We need a deep lying play maker more than anything if we are to continue our 4-2-3-1 system.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Source?

And why would we get Pogba? I never understood this sudden interest for him in some fans, when we have a gem of a youth product named Chalobah who's potential could be enormous when integrated properly. Isn't that what this club needs? Some identity? Or will we cast him aside like United did with Pogba, (mind you he was less talented than Chalobah currently when he was shipped off). Not to mention we have Romeu coming back, who I think will be a big help for us, and MVG coming back from injury.

We need a deep lying play maker more than anything if we are to continue our 4-2-3-1 system.

All over the news and around the web, usually it is this much noise it is close to being done, will be announced after WC sources said.

And just a suggestion, also Chalobah hasn't really proved it at highest level yet. At Npower league he was OK, not even named any where near player of the season so he cannot be that extremely impressive yet. I don't think Jose will trust him atm, maybe in a couple of years.

[robsblubot 3,565]

Source?

And why would we get Pogba? I never understood this sudden interest for him in some fans, when we have a gem of a youth product named Chalobah who's potential could be enormous when integrated properly. Isn't that what this club needs? Some identity? Or will we cast him aside like United did with Pogba, (mind you he was less talented than Chalobah currently when he was shipped off). Not to mention we have Romeu coming back, who I think will be a big help for us, and MVG coming back from injury.

We need a deep lying play maker more than anything if we are to continue our 4-2-3-1 system.

Disagree with the last bit.

We already have that player in Matic and like you said, Nathaniel could perhaps cover for Matic. What we need is a B2B player who is technically better than Ramires. Ramires has the stamina and the determination, but his technique is lacking.

I personally don't think the team work well with another DLP, or a slow player because of how deep our defense sits. Gary is pretty bad going forward in possession and so is Terry. So, that's help our midfield will never get, therefore in this setup we will need specialized midfielders to do that job and link defense and attack and do that quickly. That has been one of the problems this season, and one of the reasons Jose played Luiz in midfield so much against the top sides and fairly successfully based on results.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

All over the news and around the web, usually it is this much noise it is close to being done, will be announced after WC sources said.

And just a suggestion, also Chalobah hasn't really proved it at highest level yet. At Npower league he was OK, not even named any where near player of the season so he cannot be that extremely impressive yet. I don't think Jose will trust him atm, maybe in a couple of years.

And that mentality has come right out of what modern football has become today, instant success, having someone proven or established, never giving any youth a chance that would give this league the much more identity it needs.