robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 And sure enough Brazil defense looked a lot worse once he came off. I have to say I'm not that enthusiastic with Thiago Silva; certainly a good defender for sure, but I'm NOT on in the "best cb" bandwagon. Thiago "looks" composed and cool, which is a striking difference to Luiz's intensity, but when it comes to stopping opponents I'll take Luiz any day of the week and twice on Sundays. You clearly see that opponents loathe facing Luiz (akin to Ramires) because of his aggression and physical game. And they don't even complain because they know that's how he plays.First 2 goals conceded by Brazil when David was no longer on the pitch. Dante looked OK, losing Balotelli's dispute for second goal, but it was a brilliant move. Thiago misread the play completely and backed off until the FW had a clear shot and scored-huge mistake by Thiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleed_blue 136 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 And sure enough Brazil defense looked a lot worse once he came off. I have to say I'm not that enthusiastic with Thiago Silva; certainly a good defender for sure, but I'm NOT on in the "best cb" bandwagon. Thiago "looks" composed and cool, which is a striking difference to Luiz's intensity, but when it comes to stopping opponents I'll take Luiz any day of the week and twice on Sundays. You clearly see that opponents loathe facing Luiz (akin to Ramires) because of his aggression and physical game. And they don't even complain because they know that's how he plays.First 2 goals conceded by Brazil when David was no longer on the pitch. Dante looked OK, losing Balotelli's dispute for second goal, but it was a brilliant move. Thiago misread the play completely and backed off until the FW had a clear shot and scored-huge mistake by Thiago.also the time when Dante completely air kicked a cross into the box and the ball almost put Balotelli one on one vs the keeper. Bir_CFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 23, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 23, 2013 It's funny when an "English" CB tackles hard and takes the ball and the man, the commentators say he was either going to take the ball or both and wasn't going to let the attacker get a sniff. They compliment him. When Luiz gets a bit aggressive, they criticize him to no end. Now, I'm not condoning Luiz's rashness, that's what it is, it is rash. Just pointing out the double standards. Easy to pick on Luiz, it's the mark of a poor pundit imo.Just today, Lawrenson bitches about Luiz for 5 minutes cause of an aggressive tackle on Balottelli and then Luiz tries a similar tackle succesfully this time and stops the Italian player from going clean through but this time Lawrenson doesn't say a word lol. Fuckin hate that cunt. francozola, Tomo, Despiadado.Maleante and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 It's funny when an "English" CB tackles hard and takes the ball and the man, the commentators say he was either going to take the ball or both and wasn't going to let the attacker get a sniff. They compliment him. When Luiz gets a bit aggressive, they criticize him to no end. Now, I'm not condoning Luiz's rashness, that's what it is, it is rash. Just pointing out the double standards. Easy to pick on Luiz, it's the mark of a poor pundit imo.Just today, Lawrenson bitches about Luiz for 5 minutes cause of an aggressive tackle on Balottelli and then Luiz tries a similar tackle succesfully this time and stops the Italian player from going clean through but this time Lawrenson doesn't say a word lol. Fuckin hate that cunt.But you have to admit Luiz is prone to making some really dumb mistakes that are so avoidable. I watched the game yesterday and he must have fouled Balotelli at least 5 times in the space of 15 minutes. Every single one of those fouls was from behind when he was trying to win the ball despite Balotelli being the clear favourite each time. Smarter defenders would accept that Balotelli will be first to the ball and try to work around that. But Luiz simply bulldozed him from behind every single time and clearly fouled him. How many times do you make the same mistake before something clicks in your head? What's worrying is that he's 26, he should have grown out of this phase a long time ago. I like him and think he has some strengths that could be huge for us in the future but he really does make some downright silly decisions. He was on course to be sent off by the 30th minute yesterday but was saved by getting injured and having to be subbed off. The commentators have every right to criticise him on performances like yesterday's. The Mak, Peace., OneMoSalah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 But you have to admit Luiz is prone to making some really dumb mistakes that are so avoidable. I watched the game yesterday and he must have fouled Balotelli at least 5 times in the space of 15 minutes. Every single one of those fouls was from behind when he was trying to win the ball despite Balotelli being the clear favourite each time. Smarter defenders would accept that Balotelli will be first to the ball and try to work around that. But Luiz simply bulldozed him from behind every single time and clearly fouled him. How many times do you make the same mistake before something clicks in your head? What's worrying is that he's 26, he should have grown out of this phase a long time ago. I like him and think he has some strengths that could be huge for us in the future but he really does make some downright silly decisions. He was on course to be sent off by the 30th minute yesterday but was saved by getting injured and having to be subbed off. The commentators have every right to criticise him on performances like yesterday's.Oh I definitely agree with you. He does make silly fouls, I never argued that it wasn't a foul or even if it was a good play. I was just pointing out the double standards of commentators. All I ask is that if Luiz does something stupid, call him stupid but be consistent. And, if he does something good, compliment him just like you do for any other CB. Dante made the biggest mistakes last match, but you didn't hear a peep out of Lawrenson, he was too busy waxing lyrical about him. Just leave out the agenda if you're commentating is all I ask. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramox 246 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 D.Luiz: "Alves speaks highly about Barça in the training camp. He tells me it's a great club who acts like a family and that I'd fit there." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 In a few days maybe we'll find out he didnt say it. Like Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Wish Dani Alves would shut up, would honestly just fly out to Spain to cut his tongue off so he couldn't basically tap up players. Utter wanker he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I really love david luiz but this talk about other clubs is destroying my feelings.. I hate players that talk about other clubs and we are not a club that should allow players to do so.. And a player who plays for chelsea should only talk about chelsea the best club! Mufassir08 and Ramox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 French media report he's not in Mourinho's plans, do they have concrete source to say so ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I don't want him to go at all. But if he were to go... well, Zouma would make me feel good again. It's rare to find a character and player like Luiz but just sometimes u gotta let 'em go. (And Zouma is a damn good leader and I just know we'd all adore him as a player after not too long.)If there's no incoming Zouma though I think him leaving would literally make me feel sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I think Mourinho would love a player like Luiz. He may get frustrated with him if he spends a lot of time out of position, but hes a player i can really see mourinho wanted to mould to what he wants. I really see Mourinho pushing Luiz further up the pitch as well.and im sure there were quotes (flase obviously, just like these reports) of Mourinho saying he sees Luiz as the future captain of this club...sick of all the media rumours during the off season. does my tits in.come on EPL! return! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Think Dani Alves is just bitter about someone running through on goal and scoring in the 90th minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Strike 7,491 Posted June 26, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 26, 2013 magic weeds, wj818, Blue Armour and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 French media report he's not in Mourinho's plans, do they have concrete source to say so ?I don't think Jose himself knows what his plans are atm, he still haven't had a single training session with any of the players yet. Blue Armour, DJames and TorontoChelsea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone 290 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 This espn commentator cannot stop talking about Luiz. Give it a rest u fucking cunt we get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorando 184 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Dumb foul. Good save by Cesar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 He's having a bad game tbh. Worst game he's had in a while. No doubt his detractors will overlook his consistently good form over the whole season and use this game as "proof" that he's rubbish though. Hopefully he picks it up and has a stormer in the 2nd half. Bir_CFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 He has to learn that he cant do this time and again, the constant wrestling matches he gets into, either when close to a corner flag or in the penalty box....Its the type of reputation which referees pick up on and are quick to punish . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yeah terrible game by Luiz. He's been assigned to deal with the high balls in the box because Thiago is shorter than him, but we all know it is David's main weakness.Both Thiago and David are pretty weak in the air. Though David at least has the height to improve; wonder if the broken nose is bothering him a bit (confidence with the headers).His distribution is good as always though; really cannot compare him to Thiago with the ball at their feet. Thiago passes like a center back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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