KamikazeBlue 337 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I really wonder if the FA Cup is worth all this...we were not at full strength against New Castle nor against Liverpool and we have even mathematically ridiculed our chances of getting 4th. If we could have won these two games-which we definitely could have if we played to our full strength-a champions league place could have been guaranteed no matter of the result in Munich. I still believe and now rather hope that we win in Munich and really wonder how an FA Cup will really help us.We could have got atleast 4 points form the two matches.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I'm pretty sure CFC have decided that Champions League is the holy grail and that league form became secondary after the draw to Tottenham. We don't control our own fate, we could've won all those games and still needed help to get 4th. No reason to risk injury by playing our big players in games we can't control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The FA Cup isn't but the Champions League sure as hell is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I dont think it was about FA Cup, it was about UCL.Our situation in PL was really difficult, using our full strength against Newcastle and Liverpool wasnt a garantee that we would won both matches. So, I dont think would be a wise to not rest the players until the big day in Munich. Our best chance to get into next UCL was winning it this season.FA Cup was a trophy after all, if we were going to use our full strenght in any match, that was the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Hindsight is 20/20. Suppose Mata had played and got injured in one of those two games? Di Matteo would have been slated for taking a stupid risk. Besides, I really don't think we would have got more than 2 points in those two matches even if fielded our best team. Maybe a draw against Newcastle and a loss at Anfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Risk was too high not to rest players for EPL games. Too many variables. With the cup games, the only variables are the team itself. We are a very good team (when we want to be).Playing full strength sides would kinda mean that we are settling for fourth rather than going all out. I'd rather RDM risk the PL and go for full glory than settle for 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 To Be honest. I dont blame the players if they lack motivation in midweek league games with the glamorous champions league final in 10 days. Even if we had played the first team I am sure players will lack motivation. They will be cautious with tackles, and look to conserve their energy. It all happens subconciously even if they dont mean to. No body wants to get hurt or pull a muscle giving their 110% extra in a game which if won still would make us dependant on Newcastle and Spurs to falter.Hell, even I wasnt motivated enough to watch this game, I dont blame the players if they lacked motivation for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It's not like we were not going to put out a full strength team for a final of a decent competition FA Cup is. If doing well in the final of CL means we must lose in PL couple of times I'm up for it. We have a great chance in Munich to write the greatest chapter in the history of the club and we've already done the fucking impossible so I wouldn't be surprised if we shocked the world again.It's not going to be easy for Bayern also. They are going to feel the pressure as favorites and they'll feel even more pressure if things don't start going their way.Whatever happens, I'm proud of the blues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The damage to our Top 4 hopes have already been done long before RDM took over, not just those games we failed to win under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I really wonder if the FA Cup is worth all this...we were not at full strength against New Castle nor against Liverpool and we have even mathematically ridiculed our chances of getting 4th. If we could have won these two games-which we definitely could have if we played to our full strength-a champions league place could have been guaranteed no matter of the result in Munich. I still believe and now rather hope that we win in Munich and really wonder how an FA Cup will really help us.We could have got atleast 4 points form the two matches..The F A cup is the oldest Cup competition in World Football. It is a Trophy to be treasured , Only those who don't win it dont value it .The tv companies have attempted to devalue it ,, ASK the players about it ...OR just watch the celebrations ... SEVEN UP for Chelseaans Ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,363 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The F A cup is the oldest Cup competition in World Football. It is a Trophy to be treasured , Only those who don't win it dont value it .The tv companies have attempted to devalue it ,, ASK the players about it ...OR just watch the celebrations ... SEVEN UP for Chelseaans Ashley.Youre probably old enough to remember -it started on Friday night with Cup final Question of Sport -Saturday morning Cup final Its a Knockout, helicopter over the coaches, Gerald Sinstadt or Brian Moore on the coaches meeting the teams -it was one long drawn out event -now, as you say totally devalued.Some things havent changed though - I have never , ever , ever seen a winning team member NOT put the cup lid on his head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesChick 1,260 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yes it is and so is the UCL which we are already going into without some of our best players. We need all of our "heavy weights" to be in top form. Not to mention our chances of finishing in the top four were minimal and far too dependent on other factors at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,332 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Think back to February...We had just lost 3-1 to Napoli and everyone was expecting us to win absolutely nothing and not qualify for the Champions League.Be grateful for what we are getting, it could be a hell of a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Youre probably old enough to remember -it started on Friday night with Cup final Question of Sport -Saturday morning Cup final Its a Knockout, helicopter over the coaches, Gerald Sinstadt or Brian Moore on the coaches meeting the teams -it was one long drawn out event -now, as you say totally devalued.Some things havent changed though - I have never , ever , ever seen a winning team member NOT put the cup lid on his headIt was always the final game of the season and for years was the only game televised live. The first final I saw on TV was the Mathews finalin 1953 watched in a crowded room on a 12inch b/w tv ,,, People cheered when Blackpool got the winner . Will never forget our wins over Leeds and Boro . The players celebrations are as you say demonstrating what the players feel about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 We will see come May 19th.I am for one not getting my hopes up , so I am am trying to convince myself that the Europa won't be the end of us being a title challenging club. i for one would have not put all my eggs into the CL final , anything can happen in one game. But we must ask ourselves with a team that has had this much investment in the first place , should comfortably qualify for the CL , the AVB factor taken into account , was a mistake by the board and if we end up in the EL next year its there job to get us back to the top.I would not panic at one season in the EL alot of players should stick around thinking we will get back in the CL the issue will come if we turn out like Liverpool and fail to qualify year after year. But just look at Spuds and Newcastle , Newcastle signed great players on a low budget who wanted to play for a team that hasn't had European football in years. With Spuds they were in the EL this year and look good to qualify for the CL.I am old fashioned so its all about winning trophy's for me , its a pity on how much playing in the CL helps clubs in getting talent to join their teams. I think the main thing we need is a good manager and people around him to find the best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It is a competition and a victory in the finals means motivation, revenue and accolades. So it does make sense to use your full strength to get a positive result which can have a cascading effect on the moral of the team and gives us fans something to cheer about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuelpee 12 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It worth d risk cos damage had been the chance of 4th pl place even before RDM took over it wont make sense peradventurely injury s added again to the list of playaz injured and number of suspensions we already have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think what Robbie said summarizes it all: " Let's be objective, we have played 37 matches in the league this season, fourth place was not lost today or against Newcastle".As for the FA cup, it is most definitely worth the sacrifices. It is after all the oldest and one of the most treasured cups in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mceachran 109 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think it is a relief to the club to be in this position. We are in a Champions League Final against a quality team, but a team that we do not have an intrinsic fear of. We have won the FA Cup, which is the only thing to be won against English teams via a playoff system; quite impressive. Now if we don't qualify for Champions League next year. So what? I think it would provide a wonderful opportunity for our team to truly rebuild. Even if it takes 2 seasons to qualify again, so what? Isn't it worth it to slip under the radar for a few seasons so that we can enjoy another 10+ years of being a DYNASTY!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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