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[cosmicway 1,296]

THE MYSTERY OF BREXIT

As we all know brexit was introduced in order to prohibit freedom of movement between Europe and the United kingdom.
In every other respect brexit is detrimental or at best functionless but freedom of movement was considered important enough to justify brexit.
A number of other justifications that were produced these verge between unreason and total illogicality.
These other "justification" were mainly hodge-podge constructions, to hide and disguise the racist angle.

How was then brexit brought about ?
There were three main tribes who supported brexit.
First it was Nigel Farage and his UKIP party.
Next the Boris Johnson tribe. That was the biggest tribe comprising of two thirds to three quarters of the Tory party.
Then the "red wall", working class individuals of poor to medium poor mental caliber.
There were smaller tribes, such as the BNP and the left wing cmmunists and trotskyites.

Eventually the percentage in favour of brexit in the referendum was 51.5%.
So brexit won by a small margin.

But the question here is what is the strength of brexit now.
One thing the remainers/rejoiners fail to recognize is that this 51.5% immediately after the referendum grew to well over 60%.
Because of the turncoats. Theresa May, Liz Truss and lots of others.
These people declared themselves turncoats right after the result was announced and before the sunrise of the 24th of June 2016.
Cameron himself was very unhappy he could not himself become a turncoat and had to resign.

So brexit starts life with 60-65% really.
But what happened next ?
It of course proved to be an unmitigated disaster so the support is not so high any longer.

In the last general election the voters that can be readily identified as brexit voters are the Tories and Reform.
Tories got 23.7%, Reform 14.3%.
So their total is 38%.

The question being asked is then about the remaining 62%.
How many brexiters ?
In particular how many brexiters in Labour (n.b. 33.7%) ?
If they makee up 12% (one third) then brexit despite its the shortcomings is home and dry.
If not then brexit is a minority cult.

In my opinion the percentage of fanatical rejoiners is well below that of the fanatical brexiters (the 38% stated above).
But that does n't make the non-fanatics into brexiters.

So how many from Labour are brexiters in your estimate ?

[KEVINAA 79]

@Vesper 

biden has quit the race or they pushed him out.

 

Biden Drops Out of Race - LIVE Breaking News Coverage

 

 

Edited July 21 by KEVINAA

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,882]

He can go home and be a family man now.

[cosmicway 1,296]

Biden calls it a day

https://www.liberal.gr/diethni-themata/o-mpainten-aposyretai-apo-tin-koyrsa-ton-proedrikon-eklogon-i-epistoli-toy?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3ORuB8HO272iit1hv4_JRGgGSvFDGP2sQk_Z7dRoCg8WvBenW3gD6lGqg_aem_b-nHnL6IQjfizo-C0v6x8Q

[Fulham Broadway 16,662]

49 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

He can go home and be a family man now.

He is seemingly endorsing Kamala not sure if that is just protocol ?  - Whoever gets the nomination they want the most articulate, feisty brave soul to call out the Orange Felon Rapist now 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,882]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

He is seemingly endorsing Kamala not sure if that is just protocol ?  - Whoever gets the nomination they want the most articulate, feisty brave soul to call out the Orange Felon Rapist now 

He kinda has to ride with his VP. She's his final legacy.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,882]

Twitter is trash, but this did make me laugh:

 

[cosmicway 1,296]

I saw the photos of the place where Trump was shot.
As it is a long time practice to cover rooftops it was criminal.
But the assailant had alternatives. In all manner of likelihood he did n't know that rooftop to the left of the podium was unattended before he got there.
 

[Fulham Broadway 16,662]

17 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

He kinda has to ride with his VP. She's his final legacy.

True. 

Just saw this -Because Biden exited the race before officially becoming the nominee - the more than 3,900 pledged delegates get to cast their ballots in an open convention for whichever candidate they want.

If a candidate wins the majority of pledged delegates on the first ballot, they become the party nominee. 

If no candidate gets a majority, then the so-called nearly 740 superdelegates, also known as automatic delegates, get to vote as well. They include a mix of party members and elected officials. 

Voting continues until a candidate gets a majority of delegates.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,882]

14 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

True. 

Just saw this -Because Biden exited the race before officially becoming the nominee - the more than 3,900 pledged delegates get to cast their ballots in an open convention for whichever candidate they want.

If a candidate wins the majority of pledged delegates on the first ballot, they become the party nominee. 

If no candidate gets a majority, then the so-called nearly 740 superdelegates, also known as automatic delegates, get to vote as well. They include a mix of party members and elected officials. 

Voting continues until a candidate gets a majority of delegates.

Its going to be a mess I imagine. I dont think they will all get behind Kamala.

[Fulham Broadway 16,662]

10 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Its going to be a mess I imagine. I dont think they will all get behind Kamala.

The Dems problem seems to be that the campaign money raised for Biden/Harris, cannot be used except for Biden and/or Harris. So unless Harris is on the ticket, they will have to start fund raising from scratch. I doubt Trump and his team would overlook any misuse of the existing campaign funds, after his trial in New York on similar charges.

[NikkiCFC 7,881]

33 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Voting continues until a candidate gets a majority of delegates.

Like in Vatican. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,662]

12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Like in Vatican. 

Biden was a bit like a pope. But a communist one.😅

[Fulham Broadway 16,662]

‘The tragedy of Trump’s candidacy is that, embedded in his furious exhortations against Muslims and Mexicans and trade deals gone awry is a message that America’s white poor don’t need: that everything wrong in your life is someone else’s fault.”

JD Vance,  in 2016 🤣

[Vesper 28,275]

7 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

He is seemingly endorsing Kamala not sure if that is just protocol ?  - Whoever gets the nomination they want the most articulate, feisty brave soul to call out the Orange Felon Rapist now 

they will fall in line behind Harris

the big choice is who she picks for her VP

will likely be one of the following more than likely

 

Gretchen Whitmer (MI Govenor)

Josh Shapiro (PA Govenor)

Andy Beshear (KY Govenor)

JB Pritzker (IL Govenor)

Roy Cooper (NC Govenor)

Pete Buttigieg (US Transportation Secretary)

Mark Kelly (AZ US Senator, astronaut, combat vet)

Wes Moore (MD Govenor)

Gavin Newsom (CA Govenor, but is from same state as Harris, so he would miss out on CA's massive pile of 54 EVs (as if the POTUS and VPOTUS are from same state, the Electors from that State can only vote for one), so would not be VP unless Harris/Newsom wins by 324 or more (EVs) as if 324 or more Newsom, will have enough to win outright (270 or more) even without CA's 54 EVs

Raphael Warnock  (GA US Senator)

William McRaven, (ex 4 star general, war hero, led the killing of bin Laden, centrist)

 

[Vesper 28,275]

6 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Biden was a bit like a pope. But a communist one.😅

If a commie shits in the woods, and the tree they are sitting on whilst shitting falls on a bear, does the Pope hear it?

[robsblubot 3,457]

The irony here is that who's the senile old (and fat) guy running for office now? 😆

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