Beorn 11 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Any proof Scottish people have a lower IQ than Welsh or did you make that up ? professor Richard Lynn said the Scots average IQ of 97 was well below the England and Wales average of 100.5 and on a par with the Republic of Ireland. London and the south-east of England scored top in the UK, with an average IQ of 102. Scotland - when split from the rest of the UK - comes two-thirds down the table of European average intelligence, beating Russia by one point and France by three. But Prof Lynn, a lecturer at the University of Ulster, said he was not surprised by the poor Scots showing. He blamed the centuries-old tradition of Scots seeking their fortune south of the Border or overseas for a literal brain drain. Prof Lynn said: "I believe this has been caused by selective migration. Over the course of two centuries, there has been a trend for more intelligent Scots to migrate to London and beyond, to New Zealand, Australia, the United States and Canada. It wasn't a serious claim, it's marginal if anything. But white Welsh people aren't dumb, sorry to disappoint you. They score much higher than many ethnic groups around the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Beorn said: professor Richard Lynn said the Scots average IQ of 97 was well below the England and Wales average of 100.5 and on a par with the Republic of Ireland. London and the south-east of England scored top in the UK, with an average IQ of 102. Scotland - when split from the rest of the UK - comes two-thirds down the table of European average intelligence, beating Russia by one point and France by three. But Prof Lynn, a lecturer at the University of Ulster, said he was not surprised by the poor Scots showing. He blamed the centuries-old tradition of Scots seeking their fortune south of the Border or overseas for a literal brain drain. Prof Lynn said: "I believe this has been caused by selective migration. Over the course of two centuries, there has been a trend for more intelligent Scots to migrate to London and beyond, to New Zealand, Australia, the United States and Canada. It wasn't a serious claim, it's marginal if anything. But white Welsh people aren't dumb, sorry to disappoint you. They score much higher than many ethnic groups around the world Why white Welsh people? Why not just Welsh people? Why does the colour have to come first? Baffles me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorn 11 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Why white Welsh people? Why not just Welsh people? Why does the colour have to come first? Baffles me the vast majority of people in Wales are white , compared to parts of England, and presumably everyone voting for Brexit in Wales would have been white. I don't think migrants had a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 35 minutes ago, Beorn said: the vast majority of people in Wales are white , compared to parts of England, and presumably everyone voting for Brexit in Wales would have been white. I don't think migrants had a vote. So black Welsh men are now classed as migrants? Wtf am I reading Fulham Broadway and Sir Mikel OBE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 54 minutes ago, Beorn said: professor Richard Lynn said the Scots average IQ of 97 was well below the England and Wales average of 100.5 and on a par with the Republic of Ireland. London and the south-east of England scored top in the UK, with an average IQ of 102. Scotland - when split from the rest of the UK - comes two-thirds down the table of European average intelligence, beating Russia by one point and France by three. But Prof Lynn, a lecturer at the University of Ulster, said he was not surprised by the poor Scots showing. He blamed the centuries-old tradition of Scots seeking their fortune south of the Border or overseas for a literal brain drain. Prof Lynn said: "I believe this has been caused by selective migration. Over the course of two centuries, there has been a trend for more intelligent Scots to migrate to London and beyond, to New Zealand, Australia, the United States and Canada. It wasn't a serious claim, it's marginal if anything. But white Welsh people aren't dumb, sorry to disappoint you. They score much higher than many ethnic groups around the world You are aware that IQ is not a measure of intelligence ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beorn 11 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: You are aware that IQ is not a measure of intelligence ? it's not perfect but it's a good indication and a predictor of life outcomes "An intelligence quotient (IQ) is a total score derived from a set of standardised tests or subtests designed to assess human intelligence." 55 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: So black Welsh men are now classed as migrants? Wtf am I reading OP specified White welsh people. And most non white people in Wales are probably recent south asian migrants. The amount of black , UK citizens in Wales aren't enough to have a bearing on the brexit vote or IQ scores. Edited July 5, 2024 by Beorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 (edited) lol David Bowie's son responding to BoJo's 10 point plan for the Tories to retake power Here’s my 10 point plan to you fucking off- 1) fuck off 2) sit down and get your breath back and then fuck off some more. 3) fucked off enough yet? Not a chance! Hop on your fuck off bike and pedal for the hills! 4) stop for some grappa, impregnate yourself and then continue fucking off 5) halfway there, but no rest for the wicked! Fuck off… 6) Keep on fucking off, BJ! 7) Wait! Is that the finish line?! No! It’s a mirage! Back to fucking off! 8 ) Hot, sweaty and panting? More sprogs on the horizon? Nope. Just you dragging yourself forward, fucking off. 9) Almost there now! The green fields of Fuck off on Thames are just ahead? Bit wet… wait a second… is that a dinghy you’ve fucked off past? 10). At last! Youve fucked off far enough! Oh dear. Croissant? Vineyards?! You’re in France. Ahh well! Only one thing for it. Keep fucking off around the rest of the planet. Edited July 5, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Beorn said: professor Richard Lynn said the Scots average IQ of 97 was well below the England and Wales average of 100.5 and on a par with the Republic of Ireland. London and the south-east of England scored top in the UK, with an average IQ of 102. Scotland - when split from the rest of the UK - comes two-thirds down the table of European average intelligence, beating Russia by one point and France by three. But Prof Lynn, a lecturer at the University of Ulster, said he was not surprised by the poor Scots showing. He blamed the centuries-old tradition of Scots seeking their fortune south of the Border or overseas for a literal brain drain. Prof Lynn said: "I believe this has been caused by selective migration. Over the course of two centuries, there has been a trend for more intelligent Scots to migrate to London and beyond, to New Zealand, Australia, the United States and Canada. It wasn't a serious claim, it's marginal if anything. But white Welsh people aren't dumb, sorry to disappoint you. They score much higher than many ethnic groups around the world Richard Lynn was an openly virulent racist, a crackpot anyone pushing his white supremacist dross can fuck right off Richard Lynn (20 February 1930 – July 2023) was a controversial English psychologist and self-described "scientific racist" who advocated for a genetic relationship between race and intelligence. He was the editor-in-chief of Mankind Quarterly, a white supremacist journal. He was a professor emeritus of psychology at Ulster University, but had the title withdrawn by the university in 2018. Lynn was lecturer in psychology at the University of Exeter and professor of psychology at the Economic and Social Research Institute, Dublin, and at the University of Ulster at Coleraine. Many scientists criticised Lynn's work for lacking scientific rigour, misrepresenting data, and for promoting a racialist political agenda. Lynn was associated with a network of academics and organisations that promote scientific racism. He had also advocated fringe positions regarding sexual differences in intelligence. In two books co-written with Tatu Vanhanen, Lynn and Vanhanen argued that differences in developmental indexes among various nations are partially caused by the average IQ of their citizens. Earl Hunt and Werner Wittmann (2008) questioned the validity of their research methods and the highly inconsistent quality of the available data points that Lynn and Vanhanen used in their analysis. Lynn also argued that a high fertility rate among individuals of low IQ constitutes a major threat to Western civilisation, as he believed people with low IQ scores will eventually outnumber high-IQ individuals. He argued in favour of anti-immigration and eugenics policies, provoking heavy criticism internationally. Lynn's work was among the main sources cited in the book The Bell Curve, and he was one of 52 scientists who signed an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal entitled "Mainstream Science on Intelligence", which endorsed a number of the views presented in the book. He was also on the board of the Pioneer Fund, which funds Mankind Quarterly and has also been identified as racist in nature. He was on the editorial board of the journal Personality and Individual Differences until 2019. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 27 minutes ago, Beorn said: t's not perfect but it's a good indication and a predictor of life outcomes But not a measure of intelligence Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beorn said: that's exactly what it is. would your measure of intelligence be voting remain? feel free to come to wales and call us stupid yeh, because every single group of humans magically evolved the exact same level of intelligence so nobody's feelings would get hurt, that is definitely how nature works. if you based your ideology off these studies, the only logical outcome would to become an asian supremacist anyway, impoverished vietnam and cambodia score higher than the UK, and yes it's mostly genetic. go cry about it delete Edited July 5, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted July 5, 2024 Share Posted July 5, 2024 20 minutes ago, Vesper said: delete Probably for the best 🤣 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 This Biden interview is terrible. He needs to step down probably... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: This Biden interview is terrible. He needs to step down probably... you can watch it here starting in less than 15 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) Just now, Vesper said: you can watch it here starting in less than 15 minutes Its live on ABC right now and I only know because my mom is complaining about jeopardy being off for it lol Edited July 6, 2024 by Sir Mikel OBE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Just now, Sir Mikel OBE said: Its live on ABC right now well, I only have the internet streams to watch it, and ABC News said it starts at 20 30 ET (02 30 here, CET, 01 30 London time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: well, I only have the internet streams to watch it, and ABC News said it starts at 20 30 ET (02 30 here, CET, 01 30 London time) cleveland's ABC affiliate is also streaming it live: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 16 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: cleveland's ABC affiliate is also streaming it live: I am watching it now on the stream I posted disastrous so far Sir Mikel OBE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Beorn said: that's exactly what it is. would your measure of intelligence be voting remain? feel free to come to wales and call us stupid yeh, because every single group of humans magically evolved the exact same level of intelligence so nobody's feelings would get hurt, that is definitely how nature works. if you based your ideology off these studies, the only logical outcome would to become an asian supremacist anyway, impoverished vietnam and cambodia score higher than the UK, and yes it's mostly genetic. go cry about it Imagine being a WELSH white supremacist: Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Unacceptable answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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