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Antivaxers v. brexiteers.
What is the volume of the intersection of the two sets ?

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New January 6 video shows three hours of violent and chaotic assault on police

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html

 

The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.

The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.

The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since. The Justice Department released the videos after CNN and other outlets sued for access. It is the longest video from the riot released by the government thus far.

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Recap: December 28, 2021

https://www.stonekettle.com/2021/12/recap-december-28-2021.html

Well, well. Look at that. 

Another politician died from COVID.

A tragedy, said the news. A terrible tragedy.  

Yes, a tragedy. He leaves behind a family. Friends. A job undone. He was so young. He was in the prime of life. And now, he's dead. It's so sad. Yes, yes. So very sad. 

He was a politician, you see. 

He was an elected "leader." 

He was that species of conservative we've grown all too familiar with of late: A vocal antivaxxer, a conspiracy theorist, loudly dismissive of the severity of the disease, profit over people, and who actively campaigned against any measure to contain the pandemic.

Who am I talking about? 

What was his name? 

Is it that guy yesterday from Washington state? 

Or the one last week from Florida? 

Maybe those (several) politicians from Texas or that one antivaxxer who was elected in Louisiana but died from COVID before he could take office?

While we're at it, what about that semi-famous YouTuber, or that media personality, or those various prominent preachers?

I mean, that's the thing, isn't it? 

That, right there. 

It could be any of them. 

Every day, there's another one. Another dead idiot. Another jackass politician, another fanatical preacher, another red-faced talk show host, dead from a preventable disease after a month of sucking oxygen through a tube. 

Do the names even matter at this point? 

It's just another unvaccinated moron, drowned in his own snot. 

Another suicide by petulance. 

Do the names even matter? 

 

What's that? 

 

Oh. I see. 

I should be a better person. 

Take the high road, right? Like that. 

Have some sympathy. Think of the families. Think of how these poor deluded fools were taken in by conspiracy and delusion. Have some empathy, man. Be the better person. 

That's what you're saying. Be the better person. Don't cheer these deaths. Don't celebrate these fools killing themselves off. Don't raise up a huzzah to Darwin.

It's not their fault, right? They were led astray. 

That's what Twitter told me, when I mentioned the latest death from stupidity. 

Be the better person. 

Yeah. 

Well, Folks, you can just stop with "be a better person" bit.

Because that just ain't going to happen. That ship not only sailed, it hit a rock outside the harbor and went down with all hands. 

I am all out of fucks to give. 

I'm not going to feel bad for some obnoxious idiot politician, some loud mouthed media personality, some fanatical religious nut, who not only refused to get vaxxed, but actively tried to keep the public from the vaccine. These assholes are killing people. It's bad enough they killed themselves, but they are enthusiastically trying to take the rest of us with them. 

Deliberately causing your own death from a preventable disease isn't a tragedy.

 

It's evolution. 

 

And you can likewise stop with the "You should feel bad for his family" routine too. 

His family?

His family, forsooth. 

LOL.

These people, they don't give a shit about their families. Or you. Or anybody else. The only thing they care about is their fanatical ideology. They're willing to kill themselves for it, and they'll take you with them just to own some libs. Let's go, Brandon! Yeah! 

We're years into this now. 

And at this point if you believe Alex Jones and Sean Hannity over actual doctors, then you are a fucking moron. 

You. Are. A. Moron. 

Hell, even Donald goddamn Trump thinks you should get vaccinated. 

At this point in human history, if you're an antivaxxer, you deserve every bit of scorn, mockery, and contempt we can heap upon you. You're a plague rat. You're Typhoid Mary and you should be exiled to a remote island somewhere beyond the edge of the map and left to rot. 

You want me to care about your family when you don't? Fine. Maybe now that another idiot politician is dead from stupidity, his kids will have at least chance for a better life. I mean, hell, if he couldn't be the kind of parent who was willing to put his ideology aside for his own children, then at least maybe his selfish miserable death will serve as a lesson to his children to be better people than their asshole of an old man. 

I dunno. 

Maybe I am a callous son of a bitch, as Twitter accused me of being yesterday.

Maybe I am. 

Twenty years in the military, a couple of wars, there's been a lot of dead bodies along the way, so, yeah, maybe I am a callous son of a bitch. 

So?

So what? 

I just can't see the death of another antivaxxer as a tragedy. Not to me. Not to you. Not even to his family. 

The world is better off without these assholes. 

Folks, the world is full of tragedy. Real tragedy.

Kids going hungry in a nation where we throw food away? Yeah, that's a tragedy. 

People sleeping in boxes under a viaduct while the rich fly into space as a goof? That's a tragedy.

I live in a state that this morning is surging in COVID cases, where deaths from the pandemic are at all time high, where the hospitals are overflowing -- and thus the profits are likewise at all time high. Healthcare for profit, now, that is a tragedy. Down here in The South, every day I see kids with their teeth rotted out of their heads, because their idiot, ignorant, asshole parents bought AR-15s and $400 worth of cigarettes this month instead of dental care. That's a goddamn tragedy. 

In my lifetime, we've spent untold trillions on decades of one futile miserable war after another, wars that left millions dead, millions more maimed, and the world measurably worse off than when it started. And no one was ever held to account. All those lives, all those people, all those families, bombed, burned, maimed, forgotten, and no one politician responsible was ever, not once, held to account. That's a not just a tragedy, that's a goddamn crime. 

There are a million tragedies large and small every day in this world and you want me to feel bad because some asshole politician, a grown goddamn man, who should have known better -- AND WHO NO DOUBT DID KNOW BETTER -- but who was determined to endanger himself as a political stunt, died? 

Died from his own determined and deliberate stupidity?

These deaths aren't an accident, they are on purpose.

Why shouldn't I celebrate that death? Why not? I mean, he got what he wanted. He made his point. Right? 

Callous. You damn right, I'm callous. 

And why shouldn't I be? These selfish miserable bastards, we've tried everything. 

We've tried reason. 

We've tried science.

We've tried appealing to their better nature, their sense of community and duty to their fellows.

They've been babied, cajoled, begged, shamed, and finally mandated. 

But still, they are determined to die and take us with them. 

And so they do.

They die. 

Alone. Scared. Drowning in their snot. 

That's not a tragedy. 

 

That's natural selection. 

 

These people, these antivaxers, they're not heroes. 

They're not standing on principle. 

It's not about freedom. 

It's not a tragedy. 

You can't appeal to their better nature, because they don't have any. 

They're just ASSHOLES.

And the world is better off without them. 

Viruses don't give a shit about your politics or your freedom or your idiotic political beliefs.

OR my callous disregard.

Look here: either you're part of civilization and you're willing to do whatever it takes to hold it together or you're not. If you're not willing to put aside your political ideology to protect your own families, and the rest of us, from a preventable disease, if you don't care that much, then I've got no fucks to give for you. 

I have plenty of sympathy. 

I have plenty of empathy.

I bleed for every real tragedy or I wouldn't have spent most of my adult life sworn to the defense of this nation and its people. 

But not for you. 

I have no fucks to give for you. 

If you're trying to burn down civilization, if you'd rather kill yourself and everyone around you, for a political stunt, then I've got nothing but contempt for you and yours. 

You're an asshole and you deserve what you get. 

You don't like that? 

It makes you mad? 

You want empathy and respect and concern for your wellbeing? That's a two-way street. 

You first. Step up. 

Stop being an asshole. 

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Labour’s Lord Ahmed of Rotherham found guilty of attempting to rape young girl and sexually assaulting a boy

 

https://www.cityam.com/breaking-labour-peer-lord-ahmed-of-rotherham-found-guilty-of-attempting-to-rape-young-girl-40-years-ago/

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On 05/01/2022 at 18:00, Warning_Hazard said:

Labour’s Lord Ahmed of Rotherham found guilty of attempting to rape young girl and sexually assaulting a boy

 

https://www.cityam.com/breaking-labour-peer-lord-ahmed-of-rotherham-found-guilty-of-attempting-to-rape-young-girl-40-years-ago/

lock him up for life

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IS  UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE A GOOD SYSTEM ?

In the democracies the right to vote is universal.
Every British citizen has the right to vote, while at the same time provisions are being worked out for the expats and the new citizens.

Elections are being held in non-democratic states too, like North Korea, but there is only one ballot.
Also in the years of the Greek dictatorship a sort of election was being held for the so called "advisory committee" but the right to vote was restricted to certain strange characters.

In the democratic countries or near democratic countries the people were supposed to be free to elect their government but there used to be restrictions.
In 19th century Britain only the land owners had the right to vote and they also had the pocket borrows. A pocket borrow was an artificial small constituency -five or six houses- in which the candidate was William Rees Mogg, so the Tories could gain a little more seats in parliament.
Also women were excluded.

We observe that the restrictions were more or less artificial.
The women because of their sex and the other restriction so as to favour the Tories.

Regarding the women's vote the truth is that the Tories were saved by this, when at last women were allowed to vote, regardless of the fact that the Tories were clueless before as to
what was going to happen.

But the ancient Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristoteles who were against universal suffrage had no time for such silly restrictions or restrictions with political purpose or
three phase systems and things like that.
The ancient Greek philosopjers were saying that only those who partake to Greek education should have the right to vote,

But the descendeants had no time for Greek education or British education and such nonsense. What they wanted was to find a trick so the Tories win and as for their opponents, the Whigs, they wanted to stop those tricks.
So in the end we reached universal suffrage.

But I believe the ancient Greek philosophers were right.

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5 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

IS  UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE A GOOD SYSTEM ?

In the democracies the right to vote is universal.
Every British citizen has the right to vote, while at the same time provisions are being worked out for the expats and the new citizens.

Elections are being held in non-democratic states too, like North Korea, but there is only one ballot.
Also in the years of the Greek dictatorship a sort of election was being held for the so called "advisory committee" but the right to vote was restricted to certain strange characters.

In the democratic countries or near democratic countries the people were supposed to be free to elect their government but there used to be restrictions.
In 19th century Britain only the land owners had the right to vote and they also had the pocket borrows. A pocket borrow was an artificial small constituency -five or six houses- in which the candidate was William Rees Mogg, so the Tories could gain a little more seats in parliament.
Also women were excluded.

We observe that the restrictions were more or less artificial.
The women because of their sex and the other restriction so as to favour the Tories.

Regarding the women's vote the truth is that the Tories were saved by this, when at last women were allowed to vote, regardless of the fact that the Tories were clueless before as to
what was going to happen.

But the ancient Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristoteles who were against universal suffrage had no time for such silly restrictions or restrictions with political purpose or
three phase systems and things like that.
The ancient Greek philosopjers were saying that only those who partake to Greek education should have the right to vote,

But the descendeants had no time for Greek education or British education and such nonsense. What they wanted was to find a trick so the Tories win and as for their opponents, the Whigs, they wanted to stop those tricks.
So in the end we reached universal suffrage.

But I believe the ancient Greek philosophers were right.

wtf

In the 2019 elections, the Conservative lead over Labour amongst men was thus a huge 18 percentage points, compared to just a 5-point lead amongst women. If the electorate was entirely female, the Conservatives would have had a much slimmer majority than the one they enjoy now. If the electorate was entirely male, Labour would have done even worse – and their seat share in 2019 was already the lowest won since 1935.

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I fucking cannot believe we now have right wingers on here arguing for taking away women's right to vote

smdh

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12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

wtf

In the 2019 elections, the Conservative lead over Labour amongst men was thus a huge 18 percentage points, compared to just a 5-point lead amongst women. If the electorate was entirely female, the Conservatives would have had a much slimmer majority than the one they enjoy now. If the electorate was entirely male, Labour would have done even worse – and their seat share in 2019 was already the lowest won since 1935.

That's beside the point and what happened in the 2019 election is not what happened in all the elections since 1926.

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2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

That's beside the point and what happened in the 2019 election is not what happened in all the elections since 1926.

I do not give a flying fuck

sod off for advocating taking away our right to vote you troglodytic wanker

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I do not give a flying fuck

sod off for advocating taking away our right to vote you troglodytic wanker

It's the concept of the ancient Greek philosophers.
Our system is an erroneous application, due to our own misuse.

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14 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

It's the concept of the ancient Greek philosophers.
Our system is an erroneous application, due to our own misuse.

the Ancient Greeks also had slaves, they liked to fuck boys in the ass, and the women ofttimes were basically chattel, so pardon me if I do not want to go back to 500 BC Sparta or Thebes.

also, the UK is one of the few major nations where you have a gender gap were women support the cons more than the progs.

Look the gender gaps in the US for instance, a STAGGERING gender gap

men overwhelmingly vote Rethug

women vote for the Dems

 

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I cannot believe I have to argue for not ending women's suffrage in 2022 🤬

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25 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the Ancient Greeks also had slaves, they liked to fuck boys in the ass, and the women ofttimes were basically chattel, so pardon me if I do not want to go back to 500 BC Sparta or Thebes.

also, the UK is one of the few major nations where you have a gender gap were women support the cons more than the progs.

Look the gender gaps in the US for instance, a STAGGERING gender gap

men overwhelmingly vote Rethug

women vote for the Dems

 

The modern ones also have boys in the **ss - that's neither here not there.
They also sell watches in the streets and public squares and do other things like that. So ?

In the event we differ about the preferences of women, but history says Maggie Thatcher's great triumphs were due to female vote.
I 'm sure they are Tory-ades and those ancient anti-suffragette types just did n't know a good thing when they saw one.
But that is again the subject of a different scientific investigation.

The fact remains that our system of voting is a departure from the ideal true democracy of Plato and the ideal true democracy of Plato is the true democracy.

 

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Florida Republicans advance bill banning discussion of LGBTQ people in school under guise of ‘parental rights’

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-2656458991/

Under the guise of “parental rights” and “student welfare” a Florida House committee has advanced legislation that would ban primary school discussion of LGBTQ people or topics, could require school officials to notify a parent if a student comes out as LGBTQ, bans schools from withholding that information from parents in many cases, and allows parents to sue if schools violate those policies.

Florida House Bill 1557, “Parental Rights in Education,” was advanced out of the Education and Employment Committee, The Tampa Bay Times reports. Its author, Rep. Joe Harding, the founder of a local lawn care company, was described by a local paper when he won his 2020 race as as “a supporter of anti-abortion legislation and the Second Amendment.”

The bill in part reads: “A school district may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students.”

Jon Harris Maurer, Equality Florida’s Public Policy Director, spoke out against the legislation Thursday:

The bill must pass through one additional committee before being voted on by the full House.

U.S. Rep. Charlie Crist (D-FL), who is running for governor, weighed in:

 

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Russian invasion of Ukraine imminent ? World War Three anyone ? 

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Dominic Cummings has said it is his “duty to get rid” of Boris Johnson as prime minister, describing it as “sort of like fixing the drains”.

The prime minister’s former chief adviser called his former boss a “complete fuckwit” whose only preoccupations were “Big Ben’s bongs” and “looking at maps” to “order the building of things” in his honour.

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