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4 hours ago, Fernando said:

So if this is the case then why make it legal when the founding fathers put the country into motion? 

Tell me what rationale the founding fathers had to make this allowable? 

I hope you don't say that the people was "different" in that time, because then that would validate what I just said before....

I think as @manpe has said it was a completely different era. Guns in their infancy, an unknown land, and a 'frontier' mentality. You claimed yer land, and set up a stockade protected by yer Smith n Wesson or a Winchester if you owned one.

To allow state of the art machines that are purely designed to kill people to an overcrowded populace in tense cities, within dog eat dog capitalism is fucking madness.....unless youre an arms dealer or have stocks and shares in weaponry. I think you know this really.

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22 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think as @manpe has said it was a completely different era. Guns in their infancy, an unknown land, and a 'frontier' mentality. You claimed yer land, and set up a stockade protected by yer Smith n Wesson or a Winchester if you owned one.

To allow state of the art machines that are purely designed to kill people to an overcrowded populace in tense cities, within dog eat dog capitalism is fucking madness.....unless youre an arms dealer or have stocks and shares in weaponry. I think you know this really.

Such an important referendum is coming up tomorrow and no one here is talking about it :blink: ...... Which will you vote, in or out??????

I've stopped my forex since this week because of this, waiting for the vote..... 

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38 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

Such an important referendum is coming up tomorrow and no one here is talking about it :blink: ...... Which will you vote, in or out??????

I've stopped my forex since this week because of this, waiting for the vote..... 

True, its massive, implications bigger than a general election. I made a long rant/post earlier. see above.

How bout you in ? Out? shake it all about ?

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18 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

True, its massive, implications bigger than a general election. I made a long rant/post earlier. see above.

How bout you in ? Out? shake it all about ?

I'm in totally. But EU has to give Britain more say on what happens especially around it's borders. In is also good for my forex trading :P 

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7 hours ago, Fernando said:

It's obvious they staying. 

They just wanted to scare people so they can get better voice in the organization. 

It was more of an internal Tory factor.

Cameron, to appease potential mainly backbench MPs being potential defectors to UKIP, indulged the dissenters with the promise of a Referendum

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4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

It was more of an internal Tory factor.

Cameron, to appease potential mainly backbench MPs being potential defectors to UKIP, indulged the dissenters with the promise of a Referendum

Anyhow I will be totally shock if the vote is to leave. As I don't think UK is that reckless to do something like this.

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36 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Bookies have Remain at 1/3. They're fairly confident

Is that good or bad for them? :lol: I've never bet in my life...

 

19 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

Shooting in Germany, at a cinema :doh: 

Thankfully no one died just injuries.... 

No injuries from the shooter either. Apparently he had a gun that fired blanks only. All the injuries are from the police throwing tear gas into the cinema when they went in. 

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1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Bookies have Remain at 1/3. They're fairly confident

Yeah because people are not that dumb to vote themselves out of the EU and create a great amount of uncertainty.

All this was to get the attention and hopefully UK get a better say next time around.

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25 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Is that good or bad for them? :lol: I've never bet in my life...

 

No injuries from the shooter either. Apparently he had a gun that fired blanks only. All the injuries are from the police throwing tear gas into the cinema when they went in. 

Since I'm not that adept at betting, for me, it depends on the odds of the other option. I'm looking at an article that has Skybet for 1/9 to Remain and 11/2 to leave. That means for every £9 put down, you win £1. On the other hand, if you bet £2 to leave, you can win £11. Looking at those comparisons, you can tell which one is the favorite, and it's a pretty big difference.

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1 minute ago, kmk108 said:

Since I'm not that adept at betting, for me, it depends on the odds of the other option. I'm looking at an article that has Skybet for 1/9 to Remain and 11/2 to leave. That means for every £9 put down, you win £1. On the other hand, if you bet £2 to leave, you can win £11. Looking at those comparisons, you can tell which one is the favorite, and it's a pretty big difference.

Yeah, I actually googled it after I posted. Not sure why I never bothered to know that before. The fraction being less than 1 threw me off a bit. Seems rather obvious in retrospective. 

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4 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Yeah, I actually googled it after I posted. Not sure why I never bothered to know that before. The fraction being less than 1 threw me off a bit. Seems rather obvious in retrospective. 

Most of the betting odds I've seen are displayed in a different way, the moneyline. 1/3 odds are -300 and 11/2 odds are +550.

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38 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yeah because people are not that dumb to vote themselves out of the EU and create a great amount of uncertainty.

All this was to get the attention and hopefully UK get a better say next time around.

Lol I wish politics was that simple.

Like I said, theres a party in the UK called UKIP. They advocate leaving the EU. Several MPs were threatening to leave the Tories and join UKIP unless Camaron had a referendum on EU membership, so he did it just to stop a haemorrhaging of backbenchers from his own party.

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