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[iseah100 5,612]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/24/indiana-just-banned-abortion-if-the-fetus-has-down-syndrome/

Really embarrassed to live here right now. Fuck Mike Pence.

[Kieran. 6,317]

1 hour ago, iseah100 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/24/indiana-just-banned-abortion-if-the-fetus-has-down-syndrome/

Really embarrassed to live here right now. Fuck Mike Pence.

Damn that is awful. How about the fucking bill North Carolina just passed? Homophobic, transphobic fucks. Absolutely disgusting..

[Stingray 9,441]

Again shots fired in Brussels. Again in my region - fuck

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

4 hours ago, iseah100 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/24/indiana-just-banned-abortion-if-the-fetus-has-down-syndrome/

Really embarrassed to live here right now. Fuck Mike Pence.

If you don't vote for Clinton in the general election when the time comes around you are surrendering your rights to the Mike Pence's of the world.

[Spike 12,049]

2 hours ago, Stingray said:

Again shots fired in Brussels. Again in my region - fuck

Are your family and friends okay? Are the schools closing?

[Stingray 9,441]

Are your family and friends okay? Are the schools closing?

They shot a guy down that did not speak french. Ugh. His daughter was panicking. They also shot down a guy that was connected with the paris shootings. I am only there for work, so the family is ok. Its going to be a strange situation. Belgium is small, so everything is close by. The latest shooting was within 200 meters from me. Ugh.

[cosmicway 1,333]

On 24/3/2016 at 9:19 PM, johnnythefirst said:

So do you want to kill them before or after they tell us about what their buddies have in store for us?

Also, military action in Iraq is what caused most of this shit in the first place. Although it's pretty obvious we need to destroy ISIS, we need to do without causing needless civilian casualties - which just causes the next generation to turn into hateful terrorists out of spite. 

Yesterday they bombed an ISIS 'stronghold' in Mosul, which happened to be the university were people were attending college at the time. They didn't get a breaking news report worldwide, but they were just as pointlessly killed as my countrymen at the airport. Things like this sadden me to no end.

These things happen unfotrunately.
As I am a fan of war stories in youtube, in 1944 the British allies bombed the hell out of the city of Piraeus. They wanted to get the German depots but the RAF bombs hit the town as well and killed many civilians.
That happened in July 1944 and the German occupiers were keen to jump on the opportunity and desctibe it as a war crime.
But only a few days later the SS move into the Piraeus suburb of Kokkinia, round up all the male citizens and shoot them (the bloco of Kokkinia).
What can you do about it ?
I believe that force can only be met by force.

[iseah100 5,612]

Damn that is awful. How about the fucking bill North Carolina just passed? Homophobic, transphobic fucks. Absolutely disgusting..

I saw that. Gerogia about to pass one too. What the actual fuck is going on, how are states moving backwards? Good god. It's disgusting.

[iseah100 5,612]

If you don't vote for Clinton in the general election when the time comes around you are surrendering your rights to the Mike Pence's of the world.

That's true. I'm still gonna vote Bernie though. Mike Pence looks like Voldemort.

[manpe 10,861]

Damn that is awful. How about the fucking bill North Carolina just passed? Homophobic, transphobic fucks. Absolutely disgusting..

What are you talking about?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

43 minutes ago, manpe said:

What are you talking about?

Probably this: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/opinion/transgender-law-makes-north-carolina-pioneer-in-bigotry.html?_r=0 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

3 hours ago, iseah100 said:

That's true. I'm still gonna vote Bernie though. Mike Pence looks like Voldemort.

 

If it makes you feel any better cooler heads prevailed down here in Georgia and the "religious freedom" bill was not signed by our governor lol.

 

I am curious though. How do you feel about the Sanders tax increases? Vox put together a nice little calculator right here:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016

 

Under Sanders I would pay north of 6000 more dollars per year than just Hillary's plan alone. Do you think the tax payers would go for that in November?

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

23 hours ago, cosmicway said:

These things happen unfotrunately.
As I am a fan of war stories in youtube, in 1944 the British allies bombed the hell out of the city of Piraeus. They wanted to get the German depots but the RAF bombs hit the town as well and killed many civilians.
That happened in July 1944 and the German occupiers were keen to jump on the opportunity and desctibe it as a war crime.
But only a few days later the SS move into the Piraeus suburb of Kokkinia, round up all the male citizens and shoot them (the bloco of Kokkinia).
What can you do about it ?
I believe that force can only be met by force.

The thing is we are not fighting countries. We are not in a war. These are criminal groups using terror to provoke military reactions and hate. They didn't start bombing Sicily because it used to be mob infested. We've been bombing the Middle East for the last fifteen years and it only got worse. So apparently the only solution is to bomb it some more? 

I'd say throw some special forces on them. Essentially these idiots are mostly guys who were too dumb or too lazy to get a job in Europe. They're borderline-retarded, useless halfwits. I mean, they wanted to destroy Stade de France but they were too dumb to even check when the game started so they were half an hour late. Are we really afraid of them? What are they going to do to a couple of covert squads full of highly trained killers. Go Inglorious Basterds on their asses. Make it a competition between the Navy Seals, SAS, Spetsnaz, Foreign Legion and the Mossad. Those who kill the most morons get a medal and no civilians get hurt. Televise it for all I care.

[iseah100 5,612]

 

If it makes you feel any better cooler heads prevailed down here in Georgia and the "religious freedom" bill was not signed by our governor lol.

 

I am curious though. How do you feel about the Sanders tax increases? Vox put together a nice little calculator right here:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016

 

Under Sanders I would pay north of 6000 more dollars per year than just Hillary's plan alone. Do you think the tax payers would go for that in November?

Well, at least you guys have that. Still have that discrimination bill set to pass that could cost millions in tourism.

I'm willing to pay more for better healthcare for everyone, lower tuition costs, etc. The good outweights the bad. I'm all for it. Also, the low class people and lower middle class people will vote for him. We outnumber the other classes.

[Spike 12,049]

A choice between an extreme right madman and an extreme left geriatric. Geeeeeez.

[Yeboii 1,844]

32 minutes ago, Spike said:

A choice between an extreme right madman and an extreme left geriatric. Geeeeeez.

Funny how they can be so far away from each other on the political spectrum. I imagine that if the finals will be between Trump and Sanders, who the ultimate victor will weight in a lot to politics around the world.

[Kieran. 6,317]

sanders being "extreme left" lol

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Sanders, by global standards, is center left on most issues, except foreign policies where he is at best a centrist. 

Hillary Clinton is all ranges of right wing on most issues, a centrist on a few.

The republican party in the US is so far off the charts it can't even be considered a traditional party anymore but rather a radical insurgency as Chomsky labels it. 

[Spike 12,049]

4 hours ago, Kieran. said:

sanders being "extreme left" lol

Fantastic response lol

Instead of just 'lol', why don't you actually try post something with substance so I can understand why I'm wrong? I actually don't mind being wrong and admitting so, it means I can learn something new. 

 

In my defence he is certainly extremely left by American standards from what I can tell, I don't claim to be a political expert at all.

 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

14 hours ago, iseah100 said:

Well, at least you guys have that. Still have that discrimination bill set to pass that could cost millions in tourism.

I'm willing to pay more for better healthcare for everyone, lower tuition costs, etc. The good outweights the bad. I'm all for it. Also, the low class people and lower middle class people will vote for him. We outnumber the other classes.

Fair enough, you would be willing to pay more, and many in the lower/lower middle class would willing to pay more. That is a strong point

This leads to the question of how MUCH would you be willing to spend? How much do you realistically expect middle class people to pay for these programs? For the last fiscal year we have records on right now(2014) we can see that over half of American workers made under 30 thousand dollars that year(seen Here). I paid, all in, just under 3k more than that in taxes last year alone. I am solidly middle class. If I were in Chicago I would be doing well to live in a condo in the gold coast. Why should we agree to pay more taxes when we pay more than most workers even earn a year, and are already subsidizing them?