DCS1984 28 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I like to think the Inca empire, Aztecs etc. managed just fine without the Bible to tell them right from wrongThe Aztecs fought wars to gain Human sacrifices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_warThe Inca's practiced human sacrifice when their emperors died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice_in_pre-Columbian_cultures#Inca_cultureThen again morality is subjective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Happy Martin Luther King Day to our US friends.Shame the 'film of the year' only received two nominations. Hollywood still has an obvious problem with Strong Black characters. Obviously institutionalised racism still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Official; The Worlds 1% will soon have as much money, land and property as the remaing 99%.EAT THE RICH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Chomsky on media dealing with Charlie Hebdo: Abrams is right in describing the Charlie Hebdo attack as "the most threatening assault on journalism in living memory." The reason has to do with the concept "living memory," a category carefully constructed to include Their crimes against us while scrupulously excluding Our crimes against them -- the latter not crimes but noble defense of the highest values, sometimes inadvertently flawed. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/19/opinion/charlie-hebdo-noam-chomsky/index.htmlHappy Martin Luther King Day to our US friends.Shame the 'film of the year' only received two nominations. Hollywood still has an obvious problem with Strong Black characters. Obviously institutionalised racism still around.Hollywood has always followed the state and media agenda in what it glorifies and vilifies. Take a look at the evolution of the most popular idea of a bad guy in hollywood movies: From the evil cowboy on a horse to the evil Italian mafia leader to the evil Russian communist/mob leader to a Arab terrorist with a hint of Chinese here and there. And this has never been more clear than the current shameless glorification of war crimes and racism in "America Sniper". And it's very clear why they do it. It's simply a very effective way of brain washing and indoctrination. Example:I just look forward to a movie about a courageous american drone pilot soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 @Choulo -also sick of the Hollywood bad guy nearly always being a Brit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 @Choulo -also sick of the Hollywood bad guy nearly always being a Brit Or a black thug or a Mexican drug dealer...etc.Honestly, you should just be happy with the attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Or a black thug or a Mexican drug dealer...etc.Honestly, you should just be happy with the attention One of my degree modules (long time ago now) involved looking at Hollywood -all films had to adhere to roughly six plot lines, and anything post Mcarthy era was heavily censored if anything deemed 'unAmerican'. Also weird morals for years populated Hollywood. Torture, mass shootings, explosions every five minutes ok, but the censors scissors straight out if the filmaker wanted to show tits or 'profanities'. Even with the permissable mass violence, the actual colour of blood was never allowed, it was always a lighter colour. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 One of my degree modules (long time ago now) involved looking at Hollywood -all films had to adhere to roughly six plot lines, and anything post Mcarthy era was heavily censored if anything deemed 'unAmerican'.Also weird morals for years populated Hollywood. Torture, mass shootings, explosions every five minutes ok, but the censors scissors straight out if the filmaker wanted to show tits or 'profanities'. Even with the permissable mass violence, the actual colour of blood was never allowed, it was always a lighter colour.My favorite warped hollywood moral is that it is okay for hundreds or even thousands to get shot and blow up as long as their names have not been previously mentioned. And not just on the "bad" side. It is literally pictured as an awesome thing if tens of people die in order to save one guy or usually girl.Oh, those weird americans Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 My favorite warped hollywood moral is that it is okay for hundreds or even thousands to get shot and blow up as long as their names have not been previously mentioned. And not just on the "bad" side. It is literally pictured as an awesome thing if tens of people die in order to save one guy or usually girl.Oh, those weird americans But its the "land of the free, home of the brave". Though some say "home of the slave" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 My favorite warped hollywood moral is that it is okay for hundreds or even thousands to get shot and blow up as long as their names have not been previously mentioned. And not just on the "bad" side. It is literally pictured as an awesome thing if tens of people die in order to save one guy or usually girl.Oh, those weird americans But its the "land of the free, home of the brave". Though some say "home of the slave" Lmao I definitely share your discontent for Hollywood. Last year alone we saw multiple releases of movies where "The white house" came "under attack" from all sorts of stereotypical enemies. North Korea in Olympus Has Fallen for example Hollywood has always been a massive propaganda machine, it's surprising more people and concious to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Communist takeover in Greece highly probable coming Sunday.Everybody off to the poor house.Clonk-clink, Che Guevara-Fidel Castro.I hope they 're gonna let me watch Chelsea at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The Daily Beast: Charlie Hebdo Sparks Burning of Churches. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwquyCriA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The Daily Beast: Charlie Hebdo Sparks Burning of Churches. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwquyCriAThis really annoys me because Charlie Hebdo portrayed all religions in a bad manner. Christians were nothing to do with it, it's ridiculous. kellzfresh and DCS1984 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 There was a man once who murdered his wife, because she took their children away.That man was executed by firing squad - death penalty had not been abolished at the time.Does that mean all separated wives should take the children away -regardless of circumstance- and the father should not see them again ?The issue here is approached with this kind of logic by some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 This really annoys me because Charlie Hebdo portrayed all religions in a bad manner. Christians were nothing to do with it, it's ridiculous.That's not how the media, not the western nor the media in these Muslim majority countries, portrayed it though. The local media outlets in the east went with the usual "Christian west attacking your beliefs and values" rhetoric and the western media went with the usual "Muslim east attacking your beliefs and values" and hence both only focused and republished/condemned the Muslim related cartoons to create the "us vs them bullshit". A LOT of the people who shared the Mohammed cartoons would never share the Jesus ones.And it really wasn't "all" religions. From what I saw it was mainly just Islam and Christianity. In France, if you draw anything about Judiasm, even if far less offensive than those cartoons, you get thrown in prison for antisemitism. Wrong kind of freedom of speech, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 That's not how the media, not the western nor the media in these Muslim majority countries, portrayed it though. The local media outlets in the east went with the usual "Christian west attacking your beliefs and values" rhetoric and the western media went with the usual "Muslim east attacking your beliefs and values" and hence both only focused and republished/condemned the Muslim related cartoons to create the "us vs them bullshit". A LOT of the people who shared the Mohammed cartoons would never share the Jesus ones.And it really wasn't "all" religions. From what I saw it was mainly just Islam and Christianity. In France, if you draw anything about Judiasm, even if far less offensive than those cartoons, you get thrown in prison for antisemitism. Wrong kind of freedom of speech, I guess. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=charlie+hebdo+jewish&rlz=1C1LENP_enGB595GB595&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=707&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Fom_VO_gCqir7AajwoDABw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg It was all religions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=charlie+hebdo+jewish&rlz=1C1LENP_enGB595GB595&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=707&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Fom_VO_gCqir7AajwoDABw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg It was all religionsTell that to the iconic cartoonist Sine who was prosecuted by the French government and then fired by Charlie Hebdo themselves for antisemitism for saying that Sarkozy's son "converted to Judaism for financial reasons" after marrying a super rich Jewish girl. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4351672/French-cartoonist-Sine-on-trial-on-charges-of-anti-Semitism-over-Sarkozy-jibe.htmlBtw, from that very search you posted, this is the only two cartoons that has any reference to Jews I could find:Doesn't really compare to drawing Mohammed naked in a doggie-style position with star over his anus, or god fucking Jesus from behind, does it?The zionist lobby in France has created a very powerful censorship by hiding behind antisemitism accusations. Prime example is the Gayssot law which is often used to send anyone who questions the holocaust to jail but never for example the people deny the Turkish massacres against the Armenians killing over a million people, or the fact that during the last attack on Gaza the French minister banned pro-Palestine protests for "antisemitism". Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Communist takeover in Greece highly probable coming Sunday.Everybody off to the poor house.Clonk-clink, Che Guevara-Fidel Castro.I hope they 're gonna let me watch Chelsea at least.And they will default on the debt, thus I have just sold a shed load of Euros,-what with impending quantitive easing, cant see the Euro recovering anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 @CHOULO19, Speaking of antisemitism I heard that in France is the highest ever? A lot to do with the Muslim population that exist in that country?Indeed more Jewish people are leaving France then any other country in Europe.....And if the cartoon insult the Christian and Muslim, then why are the Muslim going crazy and destroying things all over the world?Is there something in their religion that says that they must act this way when ever they insult their prophet? kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 And they will default on the debt, thus I have just sold a shed load of Euros,-what with impending quantitive easing, cant see the Euro recovering anytime soon.It's not funny.Socialists destroyed my business with huge arbitrary taxes in 1993.Now again, the pinkier version.You do not work for the public sector they say, so you don't count as portected species under socialism.I wish you never have to live under communism.Those people from the neighbouring Balkan countries were jumping over electric fences to come here, even though Greece was not really the richest of countries. It was just like East Berlin-West Berlin. One hid in a refrigirator van to escape and had to have his leg amputated.In 1967-74 we had the junta. This one looks like it's going to be junta ++ because the old junta was not meddling in the economic sphere of things. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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