dave30 728 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 What if someone has been raped and does not want to carry the child? or someone incapable of providing for a baby at that moment?I do not agree with abortion but i also think there are cases where you can't help but allow it.I accept that it is up to the woman whether she wished to keep a child conceived through rape and should not be forced to. She would be heroic in my eyes if she did bring joy from something so evil but i agree the state cannot prevent abortion in that case.In cases where the mothers health is threatened i take the same stance.However if a woman cannot financially provide for a child this for me isn't a reason to kill of a baby. Better a poor child than a dead one. Furthermore there is plenty of help available through both the state and voluntary sectors or there are the many loving couples looking to adopt. Sheva. and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Embryo =/= baby Stingray and Naked Mole Rat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 In my opinion Romney was the answer to most of the USA problems but whatever they will get 4 years of nothing, wont affect me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 ABORTION:I dont agree with abortion.In Brazi it is prohibited, butl the woman is allowed to make an abortion in extreme cases (rape and health risk for her)... US ELECTION:I dont think either Obama or Romney would bring such a drastic different outcome to US politics.Obama is more liberal than Romney, reflecting my point of view, but overall they would do a similar job.USA's 3 major tasks are: economic crysis, middle east and health system.Health and Economic problems will have to be done in agreement with both Republicans and Democratic parties, so the president wont be a super huge figure. Middle East, anyone will commit the same mistakes again and again, so both will fuck this part... Sheva., Peppen and dave30 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Romney was better to Israel... the help to avoid the iranian bomb...No offence, but you are living proof that media propaganda is brain washing people.A very bad day for America in my opinion. A big step towards liberal secularism, More abortions, the destruction of traditional marriage, the legalisation of socially corrosive drugs the demographics further shifting through looser immigration and the marginalisation of Christianity. Romney has proven economic success on so many different occasions and in different circumstances, he unfortunately however did not have the glamour or showbiz charisma of Obama. Obama's healthcare and environmental policies are preferable but the cultural destruction of America is almost as irreversible as climate change itself.Without getting in to whether those things are 'evil' as you envision them to be, the president alone does not create them. If the US moves towards liberal secularism, marginalization of Christianity and all the other stuff, it is because the masses and the society as a whole is moving in that direction. Making them illegal and pretending they are not there does not change the fact that they are what the people want. You can't stop progress or else it would not be named that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 No offence, but you are living proof that media propaganda is brain washing people.Without getting in to whether those things are 'evil' as you envision them to be, the president alone does not create them. If the US moves towards liberal secularism, marginalization of Christianity and all the other stuff, it is because the masses and the society as a whole is moving in that direction. Making them illegal and pretending they are not there does not change the fact that they are what the people want. You can't stop progress or else it would not be named that.So what do you think on this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 isn't every religion basically the same?I suppose that is true hahaha, I don't believe in any sorts of religion, think they are all bullshit stories. Don't mean to offend any religious people on here btw just voicing my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 So what do you think on this topic?I'm assuming you're taking about Iran and not the conservative vs liberal debate above. If that is the case, I assure you the foreign policy in the US is not set by the president; the evidence is that it has not changed one bit since the end of WW2 especially towards Israel, in fact, Obama was the president to give Israel the most money despite the economical crisis. So Romney, Obama, or Walt Disney, you will have their unlimited support, funding and arming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 funny, we're going through heavy in-vitro, abortion debates nowadays in Poland too and what I find quite amusing is that I have yet to see a woman protesting against THEIR right to do what they want with their body. LET US DECIDE FOR YOUR BODY BECAUSE THE POPE SAID THAT EMBROY IS A HUMAN BEING. Same for gay marriages. Maybe we stop people we find different ride the front of the bus as well? OH WAIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I suppose that is true hahaha, I don't believe in any sorts of religion, think they are all bullshit stories. Don't mean to offend any religious people on here btw just voicing my opinion.I don't mean to offend any religion but it's so funny when I see a bunch of Christians, Jews, Muslims or whatever going all "LOL, SCIENTOLOGIST BELIEVE IN FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER", "well, you believe that a virgin gave birth to a son of God", "because it's true. BTW STOP OFFENDING MY VIEWS AND FEELINGS" Kieran., OneMoSalah and Amblève. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 When people say Obamba is liberal/leftist I cringe, I really do. He centre right if anything but the world media for some reason likes to wax lyrical about how liberal he is.Believing in equal rights does not make a person liberal. Kieran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Did i not say Obama was gona win? swept Ohio, Florida and Virginia, Mitt had no chance in hell. i am so ecstatic , the only draw back is the fact we couldn't pick up the House of Representitives, but at least we got the Senate and got rid of those no good, radical, AAA+ costing Tea Party Senators. Obama will definitely have a mandate to carry back to the White House even i'll admit that it wont be as convincing seeing as to how the popular vote turned out. But to Obama's credit his groundgame was miles ahead of Romney and the fact he got more African-Americans and youth to show up and vote than even during 2008, says a whole freakin lot about his campaign team. (also as a side note--he's never lost any campaign in his political career!) The republican base is wayyy put of touch with the American people and ever changing demographic. They are a white man's party full-stop. They get no Latino, no African-American, and loose by a landslide on Women's vote. How many white people showed up to vote--only 70% and for Romney to have any chance he needed 76% which hasn't happened since George Bush's re-election run. US ELECTION:I dont think either Obama or Romney would bring such a drastic different outcome to US politics.Obama is more liberal than Romney, reflecting my point of view, but overall they would do a similar job.USA's 3 major tasks are: economic crysis, middle east and health system.Health and Economic problems will have to be done in agreement with both Republicans and Democratic parties, so the president wont be a super huge figure. Middle East, anyone will commit the same mistakes again and again, so both will fuck this part...Obama and Romney would NOT do the same thing, farrrrr from it. Romney if elected would have to bow down to the Republican base and they would never allow Mitt Romney to be who he was in his governing state of Massachusetts. Reaching across the aisle would have been prohibited had he been elected and not to mention the tax cuts he would have given the rich (who during the Bush's years created 0 jobs, they just sent them all to China) & also the social programs they would have cut, MY God! Social Security, Obamacare, etc. etc. Programs that provide income to the senior citizens of the country and healthcare which lowers prices of prescription drugs and coverage to people who havepre-existing conditions, the list is endless....we'd be back to the economic crisis of 2008 in the blink of an eye. Believe me,whne i say they would NOT be doing the same thing.When people say Obamba is liberal/leftist I cringe, I really do. He center right if anything but the world media for some reason likes to wax lyrical about how liberal he is.Believing in equal rights does not make a person liberal.A liberal is one who is open to changes to traditional views and practices. But in a more political sense its one who feels the need for a role in government in society but not to the extent of socialism as the Republicans like to paint us as. Its supposed to be a balance of Free-Markets and Government intervention. and Obama, in fact the whole Democratic party believes that and rightly can be called liberals. and its evident when Obama legalized Health-Care, a program that was left to the free-markets with no government intervention at all. A liberal believes that the gov'mnt should bailout companies that are 'too big to fail' and in some cases take control of the company untill its back on its feet again, which Obama believes in and did in the case of GM. When it comes to government giving food stamps to people who cant afford food, that also is a liberal view, by the fact government is helping individuals live their lives. As apposed to the opposite views of conservatives who want no government intervention at all in people's lives even when the going gets tough. And yes he does believe in equal rights (in the case of Women being pro-choice and getting fair employment) but that in no way should label him as a liberal. But as for his track record and policy stances then yes he is a liberal and farrrr away from a moderate right. Peppen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I don't mean to offend any religion but it's so funny when I see a bunch of Christians, Jews, Muslims or whatever going all "LOL, SCIENTOLOGIST BELIEVE IN FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER", "well, you believe that a virgin gave birth to a son of God", "because it's true. BTW STOP OFFENDING MY VIEWS AND FEELINGS"No one says that dont be a dumbass. It goes both ways. There are also atheists who are just plain dicks as are religious people. There are idiots everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Couple of thoughts to ponder;1) The American Department of Defense is the world’s top property owner with holdings around the world. In the United States alone, DOD occupies 1.9 billion square feet of office space – about three times the floor space of all the nation’s Walmart stores, or 10 times the office space in all of Los Angeles.Worldwide, DOD has more than 2 million people working on 5,000 sites in 41 countries. (Walmart, the nation’s largest private employer, has 1.4 million workers.)2) Five corporations - Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, and Citigroup possess total assets of $8.5 trillion, which is 56% of the entire US economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 As expected, the Israeli war on Gaza is barely mentioned in the international media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 As expected, the Israeli war on Gaza is barely mentioned in the international media But at least everybody in this fucking world knows that Obama has been elected again ... CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 100,000 Texans have signed a petition to succeed from the Union in like 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 As expected, the Israeli war on Gaza is barely mentioned in the international media Its the main item on BBC at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 As expected, the Israeli war on Gaza is barely mentioned in the international media sorry m8, I do not like the way you worded this. "israeli war on gaza". Israel has had over 120 rockets fired on them in the past few days, it is their right to defend themselves and exsist. Israel only fires back in retaliation. If hamas(terriost group) would stop firing rockets, it wouldnt of come to this. If anythings its hamas war on israel. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Heads to any of you who have conservative leanings or liberals who wish to better understand the conservative to refute their arguments better.A good few follows on twitter ishttps://twitter.com/prageruhttps://twitter.com/yaronbrookhttps://twitter.com/dwatkins3many more you find a twitter just by snooping aroundalso these guys are greathttps://twitter.com/BreitbartNews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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