Politics & Stuff

[cosmicway 1,333]

This is what happened in the election:

1st) The Labout percentage was nothing like impressive, only 34%.
2nd) Labs and Lds made secret pact for tactical voting, So the Tories needed telescope to see the colour of a constituency.
3d) Without Farage interference the Tories would be at 36%

This last is a mystery.
Why go for Farage ?
I understand before the referendum - they were not happy with Cameron not doing it then not supporting leave.
I understand the euro-elections of 2019. Those were not real elections plus May was slow in iplementing brexit.
Now what was the problem ? Did Sunak ever say he wanted to abolish brexit ? I don't get it.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

26 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Those Labour voters who voted for brexit in the ref/dum did so for Farage reasons (the free movement) or for Wedgwood Benn reasons (capitalist euros) ?
What have you gathered ?

Most were swung by social media - I remember the BBC asking youngsters up North why they voted to leave -and lots replied 'Cuz my mate told me to' There were over 1 billion tailored adverts on Social Media individually targeting people with falsehoods - instigated by Dominic ''four years in Moscow'' Cummings.

But yes, the second group of old socialists voted leave as they just see the EU as a bigger capitalist club.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Biden Goes for Gender and Ethnicity Change

US President Joe Biden has made another embarrassing gaffe by referring to himself as a “black woman” as donors call for him to step aside ahead of a crucial television interview on Friday.

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[Beorn 11]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Shot themselves in the foot voting for Brexit 

They weren't tasked with the Brexit plan and negotiations. Brexit backfired because of the incompetence of the government and the spitefulness of the EU, it reveals nothing about the intelligence of Wales' population. A yes or no vote could have turned out positively or negatively, depending on many circumstances outside of our control. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

49 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Biden Goes for Gender and Ethnicity Change

US President Joe Biden has made another embarrassing gaffe by referring to himself as a “black woman” as donors call for him to step aside ahead of a crucial television interview on Friday.

The 81-year-old presumptive Democratic nominee in the presidential election race is facing mounting pressure to step down over doubts about his mental fitness for the role.

i news

His interview on prime time tv tonight is going to be a major day in this country's history.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 hour ago, Beorn said:

They weren't tasked with the Brexit plan and negotiations. Brexit backfired because of the incompetence of the government and the spitefulness of the EU, it reveals nothing about the intelligence of Wales' population. A yes or no vote could have turned out positively or negatively, depending on many circumstances outside of our control. 

They were given a vote though. Stupid to break ties with a 27 country trading block on your doorstep imo. Are they better off ? Rhetorical

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Most were swung by social media - I remember the BBC asking youngsters up North why they voted to leave -and lots replied 'Cuz my mate told me to' There were over 1 billion tailored adverts on Social Media individually targeting people with falsehoods - instigated by Dominic ''four years in Moscow'' Cummings.

But yes, the second group of old socialists voted leave as they just see the EU as a bigger capitalist club.

I remember in 1975 this second group was a good 15% of the total vote, or so the pundits said.
Total "no vote" in 1975 was 30%. According to the pundits that 30% was by one half "the group" and by the other half Enoch !
So how many are left and how many brexiters in total in the lab ?

[Beorn 11]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

They were given a vote though. Stupid to break ties with a 27 country trading block on your doorstep imo. Are they better off ? Rhetorical

rejecting a multinational entity that doesn't care about you is always a good move. complete self sufficiency on as local a level as possible is the only way forward, integrated international economy is suicide long term. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

13 minutes ago, Beorn said:

rejecting a multinational entity that doesn't care about you is always a good move. complete self sufficiency on as local a level as possible is the only way forward, integrated international economy is suicide long term. 

Last year’s Spending Review confirmed that the UK Government has broken its promise to replace EU funding for Wales in full and there is no sign that the White Paper will change this. If the UK Government had kept its promise, Wales would have been receiving £375 million in new money each year from January 2021. Turkeys/Christmas. 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Beorn said:

rejecting a multinational entity that doesn't care about you is always a good move. complete self sufficiency on as local a level as possible is the only way forward, integrated international economy is suicide long term. 

The EU is a gathering of chiefs.
How care about you ? What you say is meaningless in any language.
You want it to care (after a fashion) ?
Make it European government with elections of course, not without elections like Putin.
You don't want European government ? Then don't criticize.
As for the economy we are being killed by taxation (the individuals that is) long before any Mercedes Benz - Opel - Peugeot - Renault get a chance to kill anybody.
 

[Beorn 11]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Last year’s Spending Review confirmed that the UK Government has broken its promise to replace EU funding for Wales in full and there is no sign that the White Paper will change this. If the UK Government had kept its promise, Wales would have been receiving £375 million in new money each year from January 2021. Turkeys/Christmas. 

 

uk government are trash too. guess it was foolish to believe anything they promised 

 

15 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The EU is a gathering of chiefs.
How care about you ? What you say is meaningless in any language.
You want it to care (after a fashion) ?
Make it European government with elections of course, not without elections like Putin.
You don't want European government ? Then don't criticize.
As for the economy we are being killed by taxation (the individuals that is) long before any Mercedes Benz - Opel - Peugeot - Renault get a chance to kill anybody.
 

99% of what you say on here is meaningless and incoherent lool 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

4 minutes ago, Beorn said:

uk government are trash too. guess it was foolish to believe anything they promised 

 

 

As I said they were fucking stupid. We got there in the end

[cosmicway 1,333]

11 minutes ago, Beorn said:

uk government are trash too. guess it was foolish to believe anything they promised 

 

99% of what you say on here is meaningless and incoherent lool 

Ok.
An opinionated person who finds his nonsense of a theory debunked will reply thus, as you did.
Topic covered.

[Beorn 11]

20 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

As I said they were fucking stupid. We got there in the end

but not unintelligent, no more than any other group of people 

 

14 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Ok.
An opinionated person who finds his nonsense of a theory debunked will reply thus, as you did.
Topic covered.

you didn't debunk anything, just more madman ramblings 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 minute ago, Beorn said:

but not unintelligent, no more than any other group of people 

 

 

You have to be very unintelligent to trust what a tory says. 

[Beorn 11]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

You have to be very unintelligent to trust what a tory says. 

any politician , but what choice do we have?  people get shafted by politicians worldwide, nothing unique about white welsh people. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

4 minutes ago, Beorn said:

any politician , but what choice do we have?  people get shafted by politicians worldwide, nothing unique about white welsh people. 

The choice is to be informed from as many sources as possible, not just Dai on Fuckbook. There is something unique about Tory politicians - they lie when their lips move

[Beorn 11]

6 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The choice is to be informed from as many sources as possible, not just Dai on Fuckbook. There is something unique about Tory politicians - they lie when their lips move

informed about what? the EU is dogshit and won't last forever anyway. Scotland voted to remain and they have a lower average IQ than the Welsh 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 minute ago, Beorn said:

informed about what? the EU is dogshit and won't last forever anyway. Scotland voted to remain and they have a lower average IQ than the Welsh 

Any proof Scottish people have a lower IQ than Welsh or did you make that up ?

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

Can some one actually tell me what the difference is between the cons and Labour without using the words right or left wing, tell me one good thing that is going to come of Labour getting in power? And dont say giving lazy bastards more benefits and let more free loaders into the country, because none are a good thing.

Edited July 5, 2024 by YorkshireBlue