Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said: I see. That's much better than the PM having the authority to just call it whenever they want. By why in the world would Labour agree? They're going to get slaughtered! Corbyn has been sooo disappointing as the leader. Absolutely spineless. Election has been sanctioned 522 votes to 13. Well that's politics nowadays, all style and soundbites-no discussion of ideologies. Those tory MPs under police investigation are not technically sitting MPs in the run up to the election, so it's a clever call by May. If they were prosecuted, (the cops have been dragging their feet over this for a year), we are talking about potentially 29 by elections, which would shred their majority. The resulting election then would have been fought on the back foot by the tories, on one of fraud and corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Lab is on it's way out, to be replaced by the Libs. Even if they get rid of Jeremy they are too weak to ever pose a threat to the Tories. The Jeremy character, an eccentric leftist, is of course a certain loser, beyond any rational description. What happened yesterday is that before the "movement of populations" takes place he talked it over with Theresa and they agreed. As he is a Brexit collaborator it serves them both. There is going to be a lot of tactical voting and in some marginals you may even see the Tories voting Labour ! The liberals and of the serious labour voters should put their act together and their objective is to take the teeth out of the Brexit monster, rather than kill it on the 8th of June. About Europe it's "the Tories gaveth and the Tories taketh away" really. What can we do ? The Brexit monster is nominally stronger by 18% now than it was same time last year. After the referendum the Tories were messaging each other with words like "it's over now boys, now we all stand for Theresa May". About Theresa's "negotiations" with Europe you can take failure for granted of course. What this will signify remains to be seen, but she has n't got a chance. She is always under the delusion however that the Europeans are like African tribes with spears and the redcoats will scare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 May is too scared to do a TV debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 10:08 AM, The Skipper said: Would love to hear your takes on the phenomenon that is Donald J. Trump. What do you guys think his overarching goal as President is? I think he wants to put together an administration that he trusts enough so that he doesn't have to do much work. I don't think he realized all that there is to the job of being president. It seems like he's completely out of his depth and can't get out of his campaign mode. Any time something negative happens to him, he starts pointing fingers at the "fake media" and "well, look how bad Hillary is!". A lot of vague proclamations, but very little substance. He wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act, but the Republicans are realizing how hard it is to craft a "good" healthcare/health insurance policy. I think this is his number one priority domestically. He talks about getting jobs back, but there are so few jobs available for low-wage industries, it's just not going to happen on a large scale. It's a way to get those people on his side, and IMO, nothing else. The only way to provide low-wage jobs to Americans is if he were to overhaul our infrastructure, which is definitely needed. Internationally, I have no clue. My guess would be to repair the relationship with Israel after the thing when Obama left office and take a harder stance against unstable Middle Eastern countries (no aid, less leniency, etc.). He ran on a "America first" platform and nothing he's done so far has been contradictory to that, so I don't see many concessions to foreign countries. The craziness has died down some in the last couple months, but it's still hard to judge exactly what's going to happen. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Any lingering doubt that Trump is ok should be dispelled now his son has been seen wearing an Arsenal shirt 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 It's extraordinary how the football community have solved the worldwide problem of immigration that no one else can solve. The teams take foreign players on the basis of professional achievement. They sign those players who can do the job for them, (or at least they are trying). Then the fans are happy with the players. There used to be some terrace chanting but it's gone. From my Greek team some were chanting against the Piraeus black player Batista in the 90s. The fellow came over to us, beat Dynamo Moscow, Torino and others. One must be crazy to say anything against him again, or for that matter against black players of other teams. So the football community have solved the problem, without excesses of any kind but the politicians don't even want to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 TWO TIDBITS OF NEWS One: Police officer murder on the Champs Elysee in France days before election. Two: Antifa have been caught selling concealable knives with about a 9cm blade. oldportblue and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 11 hours ago, cosmicway said: It's extraordinary how the football community have solved the worldwide problem of immigration that no one else can solve. The teams take foreign players on the basis of professional achievement. They sign those players who can do the job for them, (or at least they are trying). Then the fans are happy with the players. There used to be some terrace chanting but it's gone. From my Greek team some were chanting against the Piraeus black player Batista in the 90s. The fellow came over to us, beat Dynamo Moscow, Torino and others. One must be crazy to say anything against him again, or for that matter against black players of other teams. So the football community have solved the problem, without excesses of any kind but the politicians don't even want to look. Sadly, this doesn't apply to everywhere. In a lot of Eastern European countries, black players (and supporters) are still treated like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Spike said: TWO TIDBITS OF NEWS One: Police officer murder on the Champs Elysee in France days before election. Two: Antifa have been caught selling concealable knives with about a 9cm blade. That knife is freakin cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, kmk108 said: That knife is freakin cool I thought it was pathetic. kmk108 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, Spike said: I thought it was pathetic. The sentiment is absolutely pathetic. But I think the knife itself (minus the antifa crap on it) is pretty cool. I like knives (from my camping days and time in the kitchen. I don't cut anyone). Spike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I hope theresa may gives the Labour scum a black eye oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Not sure the croaky voiced diabetic could give anything a black eye. Shes too scared to even debate on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 0:37 PM, Spike said: Hmmm, do I trust a publication about Assad by the 'times of Israel'? Syria still has chemical weapons says U.S. defense secretary https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syria-still-has-chemical-weapons-says-us-defense-secretary/2017/04/21/2fc71740-267a-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html?utm_term=.afa000a122b3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 12 hours ago, kmk108 said: Sadly, this doesn't apply to everywhere. In a lot of Eastern European countries, black players (and supporters) are still treated like shit. Dpn't knock it. There are some idiots -Paris train for example- but I really think the football community have found the solution to everyone's satisfaction. In England the first black player was someone belonging to West Ham as I recall. In a foggy morning they beat us 4-2 at the bridge -despite us going 2-0 ahead early- and he scored one for them (Ossie's relations with the club became bad after that and he moved to Southampton). But there was no chanting against the black player or anything like that. In Greece it was a midfielder called Inluga in 1985 and the hooligans were chanting against him. But then things changed. I mean if Batista -the Gullit of the poor as he was called- sends your team to the cup winners cup semis, you get the message and you drop the idiotic notions of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, cosmicway said: Dpn't knock it. There are some idiots -Paris train for example- but I really think the football community have found the solution to everyone's satisfaction. In England the first black player was someone belonging to West Ham as I recall. In a foggy morning they beat us 4-2 at the bridge -despite us going 2-0 ahead early- and he scored one for them (Ossie's relations with the club became bad after that and he moved to Southampton). But there was no chanting against the black player or anything like that. In Greece it was a midfielder called Inluga in 1985 and the hooligans were chanting against him. But then things changed. I mean if Batista -the Gullit of the poor as he was called- sends your team to the cup winners cup semis, you get the message and you drop the idiotic notions of the past. kmk108 is right, we still have a long way to go. It is still common in Russia, Baltic states and Eastern Europe for black and ethnic players along with fans to be attacked, heckled and parodied as monkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: kmk108 is right, we still have a long way to go. It is still common in Russia, Baltic states and Eastern Europe for black and ethnic players along with fans to be attacked, heckled and parodied as monkeys. I 've seen it. But are some of their teams all-white then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: It is still common in Russia, Baltic states and Eastern Europe for black and ethnic players along with fans to be attacked, heckled and parodied as monkeys. Nope. If you mean Latvia and Lithuania then maybe, I don't know, but leave Estonia out of it. Footballing community is very very small here, public racists would get their fair treatment in no time by other fans. cosmicway and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, manpe said: Nope. If you mean Latvia and Lithuania then maybe, I don't know, but leave Estonia out of it. Footballing community is very very small here, public racists would get their fair treatment in no time by other fans. Yeah Estonia is definitely the most progressive - however in Riga a mate got loads of grief -''go back home'' etc. That said, you get arseholes everywhere manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, manpe said: Nope. If you mean Latvia and Lithuania then maybe, I don't know, but leave Estonia out of it. Footballing community is very very small here, public racists would get their fair treatment in no time by other fans. Would it really matter though? Why would someone go to the trouble of defending sub-Saharans when the country is nearly 100% white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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