Politics & Stuff

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1 minute ago, kmk108 said:

From the video that caused all of this stir:

It sounds like Catholic priest molestation to me, another man says, interrupting Milo.

Milo: “And you know what, I’m grateful for Father Michael. I wouldn’t give nearly such good head if it wasn’t for him.”

Ouch. Two ways to look at this from my perspective;

1. British self-deprecating humour. Yanks don't really understand this, it's a cultural thing that the Aussies inherited as well.
2. Psychological gymnastics from a damaged man trying to justify his attacker's actions.

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2 minutes ago, Spike said:

Ouch. Two ways to look at this from my perspective;

1. British self-deprecating humour. Yanks don't really understand this, it's a cultural thing that the Aussies inherited as well.
2. Psychological gymnastics from a damaged man trying to justify his attacker's actions.

And I think people draw a conclusion from the comment that doesn't exist: because he makes a comment like this about his own experience, he thinks that of all experiences. That's simply not true. I listen to Bill Burr's podcast and he was talking about how one night him and some other comedians were joking about their experiences with inappropriateness when they were kids and it was a surprisingly cathartic thing to do. That doesn't mean they have no problem with it. 

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2 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

And I think people draw a conclusion from the comment that doesn't exist: because he makes a comment like this about his own experience, he thinks that of all experiences. That's simply not true. I listen to Bill Burr's podcast and he was talking about how one night him and some other comedians were joking about their experiences with inappropriateness when they were kids and it was a surprisingly cathartic thing to do. That doesn't mean they have no problem with it. 

I look at Mr. Yiannopoulos as an individual that personifies Orwell's 'doublethink'. He is an openly and flamboyantly homosexual man but he is also deeply passionate about his Catholic beliefs. Two core aspects of persona have been historically opposed to one another. He openly expresses his desire to express himself as both a conservative pundit and a homosexual man but is accepted as neither by society and the respective subcultures. Pigeon-holed into the mouthpiece for a movement that exceptionally despises him and his beliefs. Fights for freedom of speech but a lightning rod for the media to attack, something that he cannot criticise them for because he believes in the totality of freedom of speech. I truly believe he is sincere concerning his beliefs about freedom of speech and press but his religious and sexual beliefs are worrying and from my perspective indicative to someone that is emotionally traumatised.

'Why me? Surely, I couldn't have been molested? Surely, it was all my choice? No of course thirteen year-olds can consent, because I consented.'

With all that said, he'd be an amazing TV host with that quick, scandalous mouth of his.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

5 hours ago, Spike said:

The Japanese were 'Honorary Aryans' lol Nazis make exceptions. 

Thats probably the only logical thing the Nazis ever did.

 

They chose the one nation, at the time, more morally bankrupt than them. Even more funny is the fact that Germany is now one of the more  liberal places on earth. Full of so many different people, and so welcoming of refugees. Japan remains a place where people from the wrong part of the country aren't allowed into many establishments, much less open to accepting refugees of any kind.

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It turns out George Takei said the same thing about being molested as Milo. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, fucking people.

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13 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Thats probably the only logical thing the Nazis ever did.

 

They chose the one nation, at the time, more morally bankrupt than them. Even more funny is the fact that Germany is now one of the more  liberal places on earth. Full of so many different people, and so welcoming of refugees. Japan remains a place where people from the wrong part of the country aren't allowed into many establishments, much less open to accepting refugees of any kind.

Well one way to look at it they just have class issues instead of class and racial issues. Hard to be racist when the country is 99.999999% the same ethnicity. 

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19 minutes ago, Spike said:

Well one way to look at it they just have class issues instead of class and racial issues. Hard to be racist when the country is 99.999999% the same ethnicity. 

Japan has racial issues. They tend to be intolerant of anyone that isn't full-blooded Japanese.

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9 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

Japan has racial issues. They tend to be intolerant of anyone that isn't full-blooded Japanese.

Yes, but as I said when a country is overwhelmingly homogeneous it really isn't an issue. It's kinda like 'if a tree falls in the woods does anyone hear it?'. It's hard for racism to be an issue when everyone is the same race.

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1 hour ago, Spike said:

Yes, but as I said when a country is overwhelmingly homogeneous it really isn't an issue. It's kinda like 'if a tree falls in the woods does anyone hear it?'. It's hard for racism to be an issue when everyone is the same race.

98.5% 

I get what you mean. I would still say it's an issue, just not one that affects a lot of people. And a country's demographic makeup isn't the only thing to take into consideration as there are a lot of people that visit or live in Japan but aren't taken into consideration when looking at demographics. 

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15 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

98.5% 

I get what you mean. I would still say it's an issue, just not one that affects a lot of people. And a country's demographic makeup isn't the only thing to take into consideration as there are a lot of people that visit or live in Japan but aren't taken into consideration when looking at demographics. 

Maybe, but I'm not sure how often tourists are harassed in Japan. It isn't a very crime ridden society, right? So I'd imagine it'd just be the odd rude person and I doubt many people visit Japan outside of Tokyo and Kyoto. Black people and other Asians probably have it worse that Whiteys.

I mean, I got shafted  £50 by a shifty Filipino when I was in the Philippines. I don't think he did because I am white but he knew he could have an easier time getting away with it because I am white. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

The Tory Daily Mail ran four stories today about the suicide bomber, Ron Fiddler aka Jamal Udeen from Manchester who was in Guantanamo,

The Daily Mail was moaning that he was freed from Guantanamo under pressure from Blair and then paid £1m in compensation. He then went to Syria and became a suicide bomber in Mosul this week. The thousands of comments raging under the articles were basically ''hang Blair, woolly fuckin liberals'' etc

Only problem is, they failed to mention he was freed under a campaign by the Daily Mail, and the £1m compensation was sanctioned by Theresa May.

Now they have suspended all comments with regard to the four articles

 

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20 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The Tory Daily Mail ran four stories today about the suicide bomber, Ron Fiddler aka Jamal Udeen from Manchester who was in Guantanamo,

The Daily Mail was moaning that he was freed from Guantanamo under pressure from Blair and then paid £1m in compensation. He then went to Syria and became a suicide bomber in Mosul this week. The thousands of comments raging under the articles were basically ''hang Blair, woolly fuckin liberals'' etc

Only problem is, they failed to mention he was freed under a campaign by the Daily Mail, and the £1m compensation was sanctioned by Theresa May.

Now they have suspended all comments with regard to the four articles

 

lol

Kinda like the time the NYTimes ran an article calling the term 'illegal immigrant' a negative term created by anti-immigration lobbyists in the mid-00s. Turns out the first time the term 'illegal immigrant' was used in the American media was in 1969 by... the NYTimes.

 

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Regarding Yannapoulos, of course I have sympathy for him on a personal level for being a victim of sexual assault, but I'm very happy for his downfall as a public figure.

Yes, those comments he made about 13yos having relations with old men are being blown out of proportion, imo. But this is a man who has said and done far FAR worse and gotten only fame from it, mostly because he didn't have riots shutting down his talks before. 

This is a guy who's called feminism "cancer", who's said that women report sexual assault are only doing so to tell people that someone has hit on them, he's said about sexual assault "if someone's touched your tits, get over it!". He's claimed that all muslims hate everyone, and that the signature "delicacy" of muslim migrants are gang-rapes. He's called BLM the same as the KKK. He's publicly outed trans people and put their names and pictures on screens at his rallies and he's even called homosexuality a psychiatric disorder on several occasions.

So, yeah. I'm quite glad he's less publicly prominent and that his image, and influence, has been been destroyed this week. 

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[CHOULO19 24,332]

Also, RE Bill Maher being 'on the left' here's 7 minutes of him being a bigot:

 

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On 2/19/2017 at 9:46 PM, Fulham Broadway said:

Choulo I think you are waaay overreacting -this is the self appointed ''virtuous troll'' who talks about ''mean words''

 

This one he is taken to task and is quite funny  -honestly he is an arsehole, but if you want to ban this, then its ridiculous.

Bill Maher's show reminds me that famous rap battle parody on youtube. Especially the overreactions of the crowd.

Larry Willmore:I am about to end his career.

Bill Maher:What career?

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9 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

Bill Maher's show reminds me that famous rap battle parody on youtube. Especially the overreactions of the crowd.

Larry Willmore:I am about to end his career.

Bill Maher:What career?

That was a classic line

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38 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Regarding Yannapoulos, of course I have sympathy for him on a personal level for being a victim of sexual assault, but I'm very happy for his downfall as a public figure.

Yes, those comments he made about 13yos having relations with old men are being blown out of proportion, imo. But this is a man who has said and done far FAR worse and gotten only fame from it, mostly because he didn't have riots shutting down his talks before. 

This is a guy who's called feminism "cancer", who's said that women report sexual assault are only doing so to tell people that someone has hit on them, he's said about sexual assault "if someone's touched your tits, get over it!". He's claimed that all muslims hate everyone, and that the signature "delicacy" of muslim migrants are gang-rapes. He's called BLM the same as the KKK. He's publicly outed trans people and put their names and pictures on screens at his rallies and he's even called homosexuality a psychiatric disorder on several occasions.

So, yeah. I'm quite glad he's less publicly prominent and that his image, and influence, has been been destroyed this week. 

This wave of feminism is pretty cancerous and BLM is full of shit as well.  The rest of the stuff is ridiculous but you cannot deny that this wave of feminism is just misandry and BLM is a hate group.

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1 hour ago, Spike said:

This wave of feminism is pretty cancerous and BLM is full of shit as well.  The rest of the stuff is ridiculous but you cannot deny that this wave of feminism is just misandry and BLM is a hate group.

There are feminists that are bat-shit crazy, but feminism, which of course isn't one thing that can be defined or 'practiced' in one way, is more sorely needed that the majority realize. And that's true almost everywhere on earth. In the US it is sorely needed to battle traditional inequality that can be seen in the daily sexual harassment and assault, to battle systemic inequality that can be seen in the wage gap and the inequality from the over sexualization of women in popular culture that's basically psychological warfare against women. Needless to say how much feminism is needed in other areas in the world like our region here.

As for BLM, it's pretty ironic to call them a hate group while we're discussing Milo Yinnapoulas. They're a resistance group first and foremost. Systemic racism in the US is not in any shape or form doubtable, it's factual. BLM is rooted in the resistance of police brutality and system and non-systemic racism. Their resistance is a right. 

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13 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

There are feminists that are bat-shit crazy, but feminism, which of course isn't one thing that can be defined or 'practiced' in one way, is more sorely needed that the majority realize. And that's true almost everywhere on earth. In the US it is sorely needed to battle traditional inequality that can be seen in the daily sexual harassment and assault, to battle systemic inequality that can be seen in the wage gap and the inequality from the over sexualization of women in popular culture that's basically psychological warfare against women. Needless to say how much feminism is needed in other areas in the world like our region here.

As for BLM, it's pretty ironic to call them a hate group while we're discussing Milo Yinnapoulas. They're a resistance group first and foremost. Systemic racism in the US is not in any shape or form doubtable, it's factual. BLM is rooted in the resistance of police brutality and system and non-systemic racism. Their resistance is a right. 

The wage gap is a myth, men are also overly sexualised in popular culture (the key difference is that men aren't as affected by 'body shaming' as women are; how many time do you see a big ol' cock in a film as opposed to a vulva?), where is this 'daily sexual harassment and assault'? 

http://college.usatoday.com/2017/02/22/the-factual-feminist-debunks-stats-about-sexual-assault-and-the-wage-gap/

http://time.com/3222543/wage-pay-gap-myth-feminism/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/#690b4cd64766

http://www.askmen.com/news/fashion/the-sexualisation-of-men-in-advertising.html

http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2016/04/inequality-screen

 

BLM advocates black supremacy, racial segregation, violence against police, 'protesters' OFTEN attack innocent bystanders because of their race, and they've destroyed private and government property. It isn't a resistance group, it's a mobilised riot that is given legitimacy because of it what says despite what it does. It states to be a 'movement' based on equality, justice and peace but until I see that from the ground up, I refuse to believe it. An army moves only as fast as it's slowest soldiers and BLM's soldiers move very slow.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/special-reports/charlotte-shooting-protests/article105105896.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/black-lives-matter-most-controversial-quotes-statements-2492936

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437694/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710701/White-people-march-Black-Lives-Matter-protest-leader-calls-racial-segregation-demonstration-outside-DNC-Philadelphia.html

http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399

https://www.aol.com/article/2016/07/27/black-lives-matter-protestors-segregate-media-by-race-at-democra/21440131/

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/29/us/black-lives-matter-blowing-it/

http://www.phillyvoice.com/video-black-lives-matter-organizer-tells-white-people-get-back/