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[kmk108 1,186]

Obama's ban was on just refugees, not all of the citizens of the countries. That's a big difference to me.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

while I was doing research I found this site. the website link is safe. I checked the url and it's safe.

 

Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler: Making A Serious Comparison
Trump and Hitler: A Responsible Consideration
What They’re Saying About Trump and Hitler

http://trumpandhitler.com/

How much is Donald Trump like Adolf Hiter?

[Fernando 6,491]

ISIS chemical weapons arsenal discovered in Mosul over the weekend https://beholdisraelnews.wordpress.com/2017/01/29/isis-chemical-weapons-arsenal-discovered-in-mosul-over-the-weekend/

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

9 hours ago, kmk108 said:

Iran is banning US citizens in response to the executive order.

Ive seen posts from people saying they or a family member are overseas and are afraid they won't be let back in the states because they either hold citizenship in one of the banned countries or a family member visited family overseas and may not get back in. Seriously, how is this possible? The countries named on the list have not had a US terrorist come from those countries. Of course, countries in which DT have business relationships with aren't included.

@Sir Mikel OBE I remember you posting about a family member earlier in this thread. Have they worked out a plan in case they are targeted? I was hoping Trump's schtick would change once he was elected; but it looks like the power has solidified it all. 

Well one of my sisters is overseas, but none of this would change anything for her since she is a citizen and in east Asia. I also don't think she has plans of coming back in the immediate future.

The immediate issue is the impeding issues with China, and how it could impact Asian Americans over here. Bannon has made it clear he does not like Asians, and Trump has been antagonistic to China. Stirring such sentiment will no doubt make an already marginalized group even more targeted in my opinion. Interesting times ahead to say the least though

[lucio 5,418]

A popular crime drama on German state TV featured a storyline where a group of ethnic Germans molested a Muslim woman in the streets.

The show, named "Tatort," aired earlier this month on the taxpayer funded ARD network.

 

i've found no evidence of this ever happening.

whereas we only need go back a few days for the reverse: where a 38-year-old Pakistani man raped a 19-year-old German woman and intentionally bit her lip to infect her with his STD.

http://www.bild.de/regional/chemnitz/chemnitz/vergewaltiger-beisst-sarah-um-sie-zu-infizieren-49866560.bild.html

 

absoluteley maddening , marxist propaganda at its best. And people cry about the alt-right and shit like that... these countries are going under..

 

[kmk108 1,186]

36 minutes ago, lucio said:

A popular crime drama on German state TV featured a storyline where a group of ethnic Germans molested a Muslim woman in the streets.

The show, named "Tatort," aired earlier this month on the taxpayer funded ARD network.

 

i've found no evidence of this ever happening.

whereas we only need go back a few days for the reverse: where a 38-year-old Pakistani man raped a 19-year-old German woman and intentionally bit her lip to infect her with his STD.

http://www.bild.de/regional/chemnitz/chemnitz/vergewaltiger-beisst-sarah-um-sie-zu-infizieren-49866560.bild.html

 

absoluteley maddening , marxist propaganda at its best. And people cry about the alt-right and shit like that... these countries are going under..

 

It's a fictional TV show man.

[lucio 5,418]

35 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

It's a fictional TV show man.

I know, but its insulting to the Germans in the political climate

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Incredibly heartening to see all the people that came out to protest against discrimination and to challenge bigotry. A much needed dosage of hope for everyone.

Also, great job by the ACLU to get the stay so quickly. They're going to quite busy in the next four years by the looks of it, I hope that anyone who cares about such issues and is able to donates to them because are we going to need them! 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

45 minutes ago, lucio said:

I know, but its insulting to the Germans in the political climate

Is it? 

 

21 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Incredibly heartening to see all the people that came out to protest against discrimination and to challenge bigotry. A much needed dosage of hope for everyone.

Also, great job by the ACLU to get the stay so quickly. They're going to quite busy in the next four years by the looks of it, I hope that anyone who cares about such issues and is able to donates to them because are we going to need them! 

They are awakening a beast it seems.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

 followed Susan Sarandon and the far left right off the cliff. Should have voted for Hillary, especially when you had everything to lose

[Fernando 6,491]

4 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Incredibly heartening to see all the people that came out to protest against discrimination and to challenge bigotry. A much needed dosage of hope for everyone.

Also, great job by the ACLU to get the stay so quickly. They're going to quite busy in the next four years by the looks of it, I hope that anyone who cares about such issues and is able to donates to them because are we going to need them! 

I don't agree with the ban but at least it's temporary.  It says: 

"The Trump order includes a 90-day ban on travel to the United States by citizens of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen, as well as a 120-day suspension of the U.S. refugee program."

 

It would only make sense if after the end of this they have a detailed out plan of what to do. Because just banning travelers won't solve anything, especially when the ban is over. 

[Fernando 6,491]

This "Palestinian" Pastor agrees with Trump recent ban.

 

 

[Peace. 4,352]

11 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I don't agree with the ban but at least it's temporary.  It says: 

"The Trump order includes a 90-day ban on travel to the United States by citizens of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen, as well as a 120-day suspension of the U.S. refugee program."

What what what ?!? Trump is banning to travel to the U.S. people comming from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen ? I mean, only countries wherein which there is strong presence from Al-Qā'Idah, the Islamic State or other groups recognized as terrorists by the U.S. ? And he is banning citizens that have a lot of reasons to hold a deep gruge against the U.S., like having be bombed by the U.S. or the never old "Imperialist dogs" or even the sempiternel "ZIonist (allies) ? Hum no ?

Hum... I am really wondering why is he doing such a thing. I turn arguments in my head, but damn, there is only "racism" that come to my head. Well, twitter gurus are saying it is racism, so it must be racism, no ? And I mean, it is inconceivable to think that people coming from these countries could want to hurt the U.S., could they ? I mean, in France for instance we always have had good relationships with people form these countries and especially with the social groups active in these regions. I will always remember them — the other day they put the fire at a concert in the Bataclan, it was insane, great atmosphere ! And those two brothers coming back from Yemen, there were so nice people. They came back with a lot of gifts for their journalist friends, it was party time in the whole city of Paris !

No, frankly, I do not understand why Trump would take the decision to not allow these people coming from those countries to enter the U.S. ... It is not like terrorists or future terrorists could be among them, this is a ridiculous idea !!!

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

1 minute ago, Peace. said:

What what what ?!? Trump is banning to travel to the U.S. people comming from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen ? I mean, only countries wherein which there is strong presence from Al-Qā'Idah, the Islamic State or other groups recognized as terrorists by the U.S. ? And he is banning citizens that have a lot of reasons to hold a deep gruge against the U.S., like having be bombed by the U.S. or the never old "Imperialist dogs" or even the sempiternel "ZIonist (allies) ? Hum no ?

Hum... I am really wondering why is he doing such a thing. I turn arguments in my head, but damn, there is only "racism" that come to my head. Well, twitter gurus are saying it is racism, so it must be racism, no ? And I mean, it is inconceivable to think that people coming from these countries could want to hurt the U.S., could they ? I mean, in France for instance we always have had good relationships with people form these countries and especially with the social groups active in these regions. I will always remember them — the other day they put the fire at a concert in the Bataclan, it was insane, great atmosphere ! And those two brothers coming back from Yemen, there were so nice people. They came back with a lot of gifts for their journalist friends, it was party time in the whole city of Paris !

No, frankly, I do not understand why Trump would take the decision to not allow these people coming from those countries to enter the U.S. ... It is not like terrorists or future terrorists could be among them, this is a ridiculous idea !!!

The difference is the muslims we get in America are educated and well integrated. France's terrible history in the Maghreb makes the former impossible for their populations.

 

If it was about terrorism we'd be banning Saudis, but that nation isnt on the list because $$$. The only other logical explanation is racism. Nobody in the Sudan has ever caused issue over here. In fact, I remember it was US who bombed a medicine factory over there when I was a kid in the 90's because Clinton was trying to get the media's attention away from his affair in the white house. The sudanese refugees we get are persecuted Christians no different than the Christians persecuted in Syria. The only reason they don't get a tweet mention from Trump is because they are dark as night, and the Syrian Christians we get can pass as White in our mixed nation.

 

[Fernando 6,491]

11 minutes ago, Peace. said:

What what what ?!? Trump is banning to travel to the U.S. people comming from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen ? I mean, only countries wherein which there is strong presence from Al-Qā'Idah, the Islamic State or other groups recognized as terrorists by the U.S. ? And he is banning citizens that have a lot of reasons to hold a deep gruge against the U.S., like having be bombed by the U.S. or the never old "Imperialist dogs" or even the sempiternel "ZIonist (allies) ? Hum no ?

Hum... I am really wondering why is he doing such a thing. I turn arguments in my head, but damn, there is only "racism" that come to my head. Well, twitter gurus are saying it is racism, so it must be racism, no ? And I mean, it is inconceivable to think that people coming from these countries could want to hurt the U.S., could they ? I mean, in France for instance we always have had good relationships with people form these countries and especially with the social groups active in these regions. I will always remember them — the other day they put the fire at a concert in the Bataclan, it was insane, great atmosphere ! And those two brothers coming back from Yemen, there were so nice people. They came back with a lot of gifts for their journalist friends, it was party time in the whole city of Paris !

No, frankly, I do not understand why Trump would take the decision to not allow these people coming from those countries to enter the U.S. ... It is not like terrorists or future terrorists could be among them, this is a ridiculous idea !!!

Well the Palestinian pastor said something a long those lines. 

He said he had no problem being detained when he went to Israel because he realized that many people from his side don't have the best intentions. And it was best to check them out thoroughly before letting them in. 

I kinda agree with this, but like I said a 90 day ban won't do anything. You need to have a real long lasting plan. For now this is just to stop things from moving. But after the 90 days what next? 

[Fernando 6,491]

6 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

The difference is the muslims we get in America are educated and well integrated. France's terrible history in the Maghreb makes the former impossible for their populations.

 

If it was about terrorism we'd be banning Saudis, but that nation isnt on the list because $$$. The only other logical explanation is racism. Nobody in the Sudan has ever caused issue over here. In fact, I remember it was US who bombed a medicine factory over there when I was a kid in the 90's because Clinton was trying to get the media's attention away from his affair in the white house. The sudanese refugees we get are persecuted Christians no different than the Christians persecuted in Syria. The only reason they don't get a tweet mention from Trump is because they are dark as night, and the Syrian Christians we get can pass as White in our mixed nation.

 

Are you sure? 

Because I don't agree with Muslim that promote Sharia Law.....

Women’s March National Co-Chair: Sharia Law is ‘Reasonable’ ,' Misunderstood’

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/andrew-eicher/womens-march-national-co-chair-says-sharia-law-reasonable-and

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

1 minute ago, Fernando said:

Are you sure? 

Because I don't agree with Muslim that promote Sharia Law.....

Women’s March National Co-Chair: Sharia Law is ‘Reasonable’ ,' Misunderstood’

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/andrew-eicher/womens-march-national-co-chair-says-sharia-law-reasonable-and

Well if she didnt agree with Sharia she wouldnt be much of a muslim would she?

 

Even on your example though this is a lady, despite her families patriarchy, has attended University. She kind of fits the educated/integrated label.