Popular Post! Emir 105 Posted November 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well i didnt vote for this ISIS lover cunt Erdogan so i don't feel guilty, i hate religious fascists. I'm an atheist myself. And i stand with Putin against ISIS. Fulham Broadway, BlueSunshine, Azpinator and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,337 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Dieudonne M'bala M'bala, the French comedian sentenced to two months imprisonment in Belgium. During his routine he said Jews are scoundrels and the holocaust a myth etc,. Pretty obnoxious stuff, and hes got previous for his anti-semitic stuff -but a prison sentence ? If we are truly committed to ensuring everyone has the liberty to think and say whatever they please, then the jailing of Dieudonné should outrage us as much as the attempts to shut down Charlie Hebdo or the jailing of a Saudi blogger for ridiculing religious belief. Shouldnt we be saying ‘Je Suis Dieudonné’ ?Dieudonné has been punished simply for thinking and saying certain things. This is thought-policing. It’s a PC, spat-and-polished version of the Inquisition, which was likewise in the business of raining punishment upon those who said things the authorities considered wicked.All hate-speech laws should be scrapped. Dieudonné should be freed. And a continent whose governments argue against the imprisonment of bloggers in Saudi Arabia while jailing comedians at home needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror. Viper22, CHOULO19, manpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 ISIS's favourite videogame is Bomberman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emir 105 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 ISIS's favourite videogame is Bomberman.I don't think those apes know what a videogame is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Byzantine empire should be recreated.We Greeks are really the christianized Romans.Greece or Hellas was a province. The emperors were calling the regions "themata", meaning "subjects". So there was a Hellenic thema, an Ionian thema and a Thracean thema. Strangely there was no Macedonian thema and the Thracean thema extended out to today's Albania - the Illyric thema.In the revolution of 1821 we had to stop at the borders of Thessaly, as further north the Turks maintained supremacy. In addition the Lord of Wellington did not want anymore revolution. So there could be no new Rome and the free country was named Greece. The blue and white flag was adopted in place of the yellow-black with the Byzantine two headed eagle.Previously a great setback for Greece was the defeat of Napoleon Bonaparte in Waterloo. Napoleon's ancestors were Greek (Bonaparte derives from Kalomeris and in Latin becomes "Bonaparte"). As the great Emperor was not engaged in war with the Ottomans and his strategy was to defeat the English first, he was hiding the facts about his ancestry because the High Gate of Istanbul, the Sultan's palace, might not like it. But in France everybody more or less knew it.With Turkey now tottering in the brink of collapse, the empire should be recreated, thus ensuring the uninterrupted flow of oil from the middle East to Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cameron's obviously made up '70,000 moderate Syrian rebels' crap is reminiscent of Blair's WMDs in Iraq speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,337 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cameron's obviously made up '70,000 moderate Syrian rebels' crap is reminiscent of Blair's WMDs in Iraq speech.They really really are full of shit. 3 British fighters to drop a few bombs, as if it will make any difference.At the same time the Tory papers are whipping up scare stories that Syrian refugees are in ISIS. The reality is if they bomb Syria there will be repeats of 7/7, and these are invariably perpetrated by Pakistani heritage disenfranchised young blokes that have been living in the UK all their lives. The UK action of bombing Syria to use a football analogy is like bringing on Mikel in the 88th minute to hopefully score. Pointless with serious repercussions loom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Dieudonne M'bala M'bala, the French comedian sentenced to two months imprisonment in Belgium. During his routine he said Jews are scoundrels and the holocaust a myth etc,. Pretty obnoxious stuff, and hes got previous for his anti-semitic stuff -but a prison sentence ? If we are truly committed to ensuring everyone has the liberty to think and say whatever they please, then the jailing of Dieudonné should outrage us as much as the attempts to shut down Charlie Hebdo or the jailing of a Saudi blogger for ridiculing religious belief. Shouldnt we be saying ‘Je Suis Dieudonné’ ?Dieudonné has been punished simply for thinking and saying certain things. This is thought-policing. It’s a PC, spat-and-polished version of the Inquisition, which was likewise in the business of raining punishment upon those who said things the authorities considered wicked.All hate-speech laws should be scrapped. Dieudonné should be freed. And a continent whose governments argue against the imprisonment of bloggers in Saudi Arabia while jailing comedians at home needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror.Well, its pretty clear here for a very long time since Belgium had its own camps (deportation and working camps like Fort Breendonk) plus a history of collaboration with the Nazi's, that we penalised negationism. The Regine Beer Musuem - Regine who was transported to Auschwitz and made a story about her time there - in Antwerp even got European museum of the year, contributed - quite rightly so. We have enough holocaust deniers in France, Belgium, .... So he might have been punished very severly, but statements about the holocaust being fantasy are very much looked down upon here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,337 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 @stingray. Yup there are holocaust deniers here and everywhere. Irving a notable one here. However, once you suppress and imprison, it encourages more. The best way with any view regardles of how abhorent is to challenge and argue. Nothing to fear if you have the right argument. The jailing of Duodonne shows they have lost the argument.Europe’s hate-speech laws do not merely punish explicitly racist stuff (which would be bad enough). They have also been used against people who are seen as possessing the wrong moralbeliefs. From the Swedish Christian pastor given a one-month suspended prison sentence for describing homosexuality as a tumour on society to the former actress Brigitte Bardot being fined 30,000 euros for railing against the ‘barbaric’ way in which Muslims slaughter animals for meat, people are being punished for their deeply held, if unpopular convictions. This is the logic of anti-hatred laws: once the state is invited to monitor and govern thought, then anyone who is nasty or edgy or different becomes fair game. CHOULO19 and Viper22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Surprise, surprise the French emergency laws are being used almost exclusively against normal citizens and particularly against environmental activists. People having their front doors kicked down by the military and police for small crimes or even no crimes. Innocent people being held in custody without being charged. Media being censored. Tourists and visitors having their visas scrapped for no reason...etc.So, I guess the plan to fight ISIS is, since they "hate you for your freedom", just get rid of the freedom and they would stop hating and attacking you? Smh... Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 When Robert Fisk nails it, he fucking nails it! http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-cameron-there-arent-70000-moderate-fighters-in-syria-and-whoever-heard-of-a-moderate-with-a-a6753576.html Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,337 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Robert Fisk nails it, he fucking nails it! http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-cameron-there-arent-70000-moderate-fighters-in-syria-and-whoever-heard-of-a-moderate-with-a-a6753576.htmlFisk is spot on as usual. I remember his analysis of iraq amongst others, seems to have been around forever ! This will be Camerons Blairist legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,337 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 2012 document -the West to facilitate the rise of ISIS in order to isolate the Assad regime.http://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-document-west-will-facilitate-rise-of-islamic-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/ kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 A one sentence explanation for what caused ISIS:https://twitter.com/KarlreMarksWhat could be simpler, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Surprise, surprise the French emergency laws are being used almost exclusively against normal citizens and particularly against environmental activists. People having their front doors kicked down by the military and police for small crimes or even no crimes. Innocent people being held in custody without being charged. Media being censored. Tourists and visitors having their visas scrapped for no reason...etc.So, I guess the plan to fight ISIS is, since they "hate you for your freedom", just get rid of the freedom and they would stop hating and attacking you? Smh...Sounds a lot like Marital law. You know I have heard from someone that is what Obama wants to do in the US to declare martial law and stay in power. Sounds radical but that's what someone told me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Sounds a lot like Marital law. You know I have heard from someone that is what Obama wants to do in the US to declare martial law and stay in power. Sounds radical but that's what someone told me....Did, by any chance, that someone previously mention that Obama is Muslim and that he was not born in the US/is not American? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Did, by any chance, that someone previously mention that Obama is Muslim and that he was not born in the US/is not American? Something about being sympathetic to Muslim, the other one not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 so bombing it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 so bombing it is thenWhat's a few billion in public money and an increased risk of terrorist attacks in the country in comparison to all the profits and free advertisement that the weapons companies are going to get?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 What is your guys thought on gun control? Obama is big on it, but will it really do a difference? See the problem with gun control is that if you make it illegal in the states people will still find ways. I mean hello drugs are illegal and people still find a way. So I don't know if gun control will do much of anything. But then there's people that say that everyone should have gun. And if everyone has one no one will rob because everyone can defend themselves. Sounds reasonable but there's something that just don't sit right with that. Well what you guys think about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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