Politics & Stuff

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

UKIP are just another branch of the Tory party, as the Tea Party are to Republicans.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

RICHARD Desmond has boosted UKIP’s election campaign with a £1m donation generated by breasts.

The billionaire pornographer and Daily Express owner felt that UKIP best reflected his portfolio of shows, which includes Spanking Totty and Ben Dover, The Old Fucker.

Desmond said: “If Nigel is elected I’ll cancel Asian Babes as I don’t imagine it’s the sort of thing he’d approve of.

“We’re working on more UKIP-friendly shows including Real Ale Housewives and Passport Control Sluts, which features a bevy of British girls deporting people for not having enough money and then lezzing it up to an Elgar soundtrack.

“But I think our big ratings winner will be Douglas Carswell reading out viewers’ erotic letters.”

UKIP supporters have welcomed Desmond’s patronage, sharing a nostalgic view of Britain when everybody spoke English on the bus, televised softcore pornography was the only masturbatory option and the Daily Express was still considered a newspaper.

Desmond added: “Every time my viewers ejaculate to a bored woman from Southend pretending to be a punished schoolgirl, I want them to think of Nigel Farage’s face.”

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is a wasted vote.

Tories. They've started something, they've made change, they've reversed the destructive labour governments unforgivable mistakes.

Not to forget it would stop a Labour SNP coalition.

Up the Tory Lib Dem coalition

It's kind of weird seeing a foreign election from a distance. I know you must have your reasons, but I just can't see, from my position, why anyone in the middle/lower-middle class would vote for a party that is dedicated for the upper class and the protection of the interest of concentrated private power.

PS: What's so bad about the Labour SNP coalition?

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

The Tory party represent the interests of the very rich.. and er thats it.

Bbbbbutt...no fuck off, all the rest is window dressing. They get the working class fighting amongst themselves via their billionaire corporate media owners such as Rupert Murdoch or the owners of the Telegraph, or Lord Rothermere, a billionaire who inherited his wealth and the Daily Mail -sexist, racist rag that attacks the poor and tries to convince people that sick, unemployed and disabled are the problem. He also bought the London Standard, which again is full of racist bullshit. He has all the ant-Labour propaganda for one reason. Labour want to crack down on the non-doms, the tax avoiders. He is supposed to be non-dom in France in his chateau, yet spends most of the time here in his 1000 acre estate and mansion. Fuck em, theyre greedy cunts who print shit newspapers to divide and rule us. Grade A cunts.

Labour are slightly better, but could well be described as Torylite.

We need a "none of the above" option on the ballot paper, and keep having elections until a party represents us, and not big business.

[DDA 9,941]

Nigel Farage is an eejit. What UKIP policies exactly are you talking about?

If its anything to do with immigrants its moot. They contribute £5bn to our economy. That means that any money spent on immigrants is paid for, and then we have an extra £5bn. And all the health tourism stuff is bollocks.

Ermmm no!

Our immigration policy has to change!

More immigrants coming to live in England = less space and less jobs.

It doesn't take a genius to work that out!

All the time we are part of the EU we will never have total control over our OWN borders.

Believe it or not but a vast amount of the British population have had enough of the massive influx of immigrants in this country and that is why UKIP are growing stronger.

you think 3000 Romanians who come to this country to work as labourers are contributing to our economy. Are they the ones who bring this 5billion you talk of!?? All thhat happens is the average workers wages are reduced because the foriegners are prepared to work for less and less jobs are available.

Only the very rich boost our economy such as the millionaire/billionaire Russians, ect.

Then in return they still widen the gap between the rich and poor and inflate house prices making it very hard for the average person to buy a house now. Espeically in the city!

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

UKIP are a bunch of swivel eyed loonies, led by a multi millionaire ex banker who is dead against the EU, yet he is quite happy to earn a fortune as a Euro MP, has a German wife paid by the EU as his secretary, and blames everything on immigrants. Complete hypocritacal tosser.

[DDA 9,941]

UKIP are a bunch of swivel eyed loonies, led by a multi millionaire ex banker who is dead against the EU, yet he is quite happy to earn a fortune as a Euro MP, has a German wife paid by the EU as his secretary, and blames everything on immigrants. Complete hypocritacal tosser.

Name one member of parliment who isn't a hypocryte??!

[boshman 1,073]

Ermmm no!

Our immigration policy has to change!

More immigrants coming to live in England = less space and less jobs.

It doesn't take a genius to work that out!

All the time we are part of the EU we will never have total control over our OWN borders.

Believe it or not but a vast amount of the British population have had enough of the massive influx of immigrants in this country and that is why UKIP are growing stronger.

YES!! This is exactly it! We have thousands and thousands of migrants piling over here and there is NOTHING we can do about it!!

A hard working man/woman who has paid their taxes for years and years, gets into hard times for whatever reason can end up on the street because there is no accommodation available due to migrants moving over for no reason but to reap the rewards of our SOFT government. And that is WRONG

We need to control our own boarders! If you want to move to this country you should need a skill to be able to. Whatever it may be. A doctor, a plumber, whatever. Proof you can contribute to society. And if you need to receive benefits money you should have to contribute through your tax money for X amount of years before you can get back out.

All UKIP ideas. All fantastic ideas that are desperately needed.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

A NOD TO AN INFAMOUS CHELSEA BOY IN HERE AS WELL

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[DDA 9,941]

YES!! This is exactly it! We have thousands and thousands of migrants piling over here and there is NOTHING we can do about it!!

A hard working man/woman who has paid their taxes for years and years, gets into hard times for whatever reason can end up on the street because there is no accommodation available due to migrants moving over for no reason but to reap the rewards of our SOFT government. And that is WRONG

We need to control our own boarders! If you want to move to this country you should need a skill to be able to. Whatever it may be. A doctor, a plumber, whatever. Proof you can contribute to society. And if you need to receive benefits money you should have to contribute through your tax money for X amount of years before you can get back out.

All UKIP ideas. All fantastic ideas that are desperately needed.

Exactly my friend.

UKIP want to adopt an Australian style point system in which all immigrants who wish to settle in this country have to be assessed on what they have to offer in terms of skill and overall contribution.

Ultimately population control.

Look at Australia compared to England. I know which one looks better to me!!

If i could I would be up and off to live there in a flash!

They don't put up with any bullsht over there!

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Name one member of parliment who isn't a hypocryte??!

Well youre right theyre rarer than hens teeth.

Two spring to mind-Dennis Skinner and Dave Nellist

[We Hate Scouse 10,327]

It's kind of weird seeing a foreign election from a distance. I know you must have your reasons, but I just can't see, from my position, why anyone in the middle/lower-middle class would vote for a party that is dedicated for the upper class and the protection of the interest of concentrated private power.

PS: What's so bad about the Labour SNP coalition?

Absolute myth, they've done a hell of a lot for working people. Its those on benefits that have suffered. The Labour government ridicules the Tories for being well off and going to private schools, but the reality is these people went to the same schools, they had no struggle growing up. As a family I'd probably be better off in the short term under a Labour government, but you have to think about the bigger picture.

Private power isn't always a bad thing either, it generates more competition which in some cases (certainly not all) can push prices down. It just needs to be governed better.

Labour destroyed our country under Blair and Brown. If it wasn't for those two I probably wouldn't be that bothered, they've admitted their mistakes regarding immigration and benefits. Ed Milliband is an absolute clown, he makes mistake after mistake and people still trust him to run the country.

SNP are a Scottish party, they don't have any interest in England. If they have a say in our government they will ruin England for their own gain, it would be ridiculous.

What would be ideal for me is a Tory UKIP coalition. UKIP aren't prepared to run the country, they don't have a clue, but some of their policies are excellent and certainly need to be adopted by others. Such as them wanting to follow an immigration point system like Australia. Immigrants are fantastic, I'm pro immigration but on a level. We need immigrants that will bring something to the country, that will help us thrive. We also need those that do actually need help, such as Syrian refugees etc. not those that want to exploit our benefit system.

I'm happy with a Tory Lib Dem coalition though as the Tories do all the right things regarding the economy whilst the Lib Dems keep them in check.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

A NOD TO AN INFAMOUS CHELSEA BOY IN HERE AS WELL

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lol at the Tunbridge Wells away pic complete with burberry

[cosmicway 1,333]

Exactly my friend.

UKIP want to adopt an Australian style point system in which all immigrants who wish to settle in this country have to be assessed on what they have to offer in terms of skill and overall contribution.

Ultimately population control.

Look at Australia compared to England. I know which one looks better to me!!

If i could I would be up and off to live there in a flash!

They don't put up with any bullsht over there!

Normally the immigrants have some arrangements and jobs waiting for them.

Onassis was an immigrant to Argentine. His uncles had an office job waiting for him and three tanker ships so he did not start penniless as is the popular belief, but he was an immigrant.

My uncles became immigrants to Australia, but in their case it was because they earned decorations in the war.

The other type of immigrant is one who jumps on a train and says wherever that goes, I go.

Yet the other type is the person who is persecuted. It's a pity we don't help such persons. Back when there was the Berlin wall, everytime someone succeded in making an escape, West Germans held a mini celebration. Now maybe we shoot them.

Anyway regarding all the above types, UKIP and the similar minded political parties exhibit intense hostility.

In addition they want to displace persons and start ethnic cleansing.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

lol at the Tunbridge Wells away pic complete with burberry

Have yet to see the cinematic masterpiece that is Green Street 2 F.B. ha ha. Saw the first one and it was unspeakably shit i could pick holes in it all day. But the biggest fuck up is the casting nice middle class luvvies trying to act hard. The funniest one is Rafe Spall who can't pronounce bollocks he says what sounds like ballacks. Go to 19.50 mins on youtube.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Have yet to see the cinematic masterpiece that is Green Street 2 F.B. ha ha. Saw the first one and it was unspeakably shit i could pick holes in it all day. But the biggest fuck up is the casting nice middle class luvvies trying to act hard. The funniest one is Rafe Spall who can't pronounce bollocks he says what sounds like ballacks. Go to 19.50 mins on youtube.

No, not seen Green st 2 either. You're right Green Street 1 is dogshit -which to be fair to all the hoolie films, they all are. That said quite liked Alan Clarkes The Firm with Gary Oldman campin it up.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

No, not seen Green st 2 either. You're right Green Street 1 is dogshit -which to be fair to all the hoolie films, they all are. That said quite liked Alan Clarkes The Firm with Gary Oldman campin it up.

Yes your right The Firm was pretty good. I saw Cass and pissed myself not so much on what a shit film it was (it is) but the bloke playing Cass Pennant had a pair of moobs.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

More immigrants coming to live in England = less space and less jobs.

I'm sorry, but that's an incredible over-simplification.

Naturally there are a few gaps in the logic as a result. Firstly, immigrants create jobs as well. And not just by starting new business by by expanding the market and creating new markets for new products. Immigrants don't just just work, they consume as well. I'm no expert on Britain but all the studies I've read about in papers and such show that immigrants actually improve the British economy as mentioned above.

Secondly, you're assuming that the low-skill jobs that the immigrants are currently taking would remain in England once the immigrants are gone. Honestly, that's pretty naive. The only framework for corporations is to maximize profit at any cost. The moment that production elsewhere is more profitable, namely through relatively much cheaper labor costs, the big corporation will relocate to east Europe and such taking with them not just the jobs occupied by immigrants but jobs occupied by British people.

Finally the link you make (or imply) between large numbers of unskilled workers and poor economies not at all always true. Just look at the past 50 years or so, all the big economies that have risen have taken advantage of just that, mainly in east Asia, but also some South American countries.

But regardless of the above, I do know a little about the social and economical issues that the UK is facing at the time, and the fact that some have managed to convince the British people that all their problems can be pinned on immigrants is quite remarkable and frankly frightening. Because 'immigrants' is a very cheap excuse that plays to tribal territorial instincts of the people, but it is used a cover up for much bigger issues.

There are other solutions that are a lot more logical. You want better wealth distribution? Simply tax the super rich. Crack down on the enormous tax evasions of multinational corporations. You want more jobs? Then make a law that forces corporations to have the majority of their employees inside the UK instead of the sweat shops in east Asia, Africa and South America. Or how about, god forbid, moving away from fossil fuel companies and forcing policies towards green renewable energy that not only doesn't fry your grandchildren but also creates 3 times more jobs. You want better budgets for education/medical care...etc.? Then protest the huge investments in arms and military and war.

Here's another over simplification but one that I think holds a lot more truth: The reason that you don't have enough money is because there are 1% of the population who are taking more than 90% of the wealth of the nation. And that will remain the case regardless if there are 5% or 15% immigrants in the country.

[DDA 9,941]

Absolute myth, they've done a hell of a lot for working people. Its those on benefits that have suffered. The Labour government ridicules the Tories for being well off and going to private schools, but the reality is these people went to the same schools, they had no struggle growing up. As a family I'd probably be better off in the short term under a Labour government, but you have to think about the bigger picture.

Private power isn't always a bad thing either, it generates more competition which in some cases (certainly not all) can push prices down. It just needs to be governed better.

Labour destroyed our country under Blair and Brown. If it wasn't for those two I probably wouldn't be that bothered, they've admitted their mistakes regarding immigration and benefits. Ed Milliband is an absolute clown, he makes mistake after mistake and people still trust him to run the country.

SNP are a Scottish party, they don't have any interest in England. If they have a say in our government they will ruin England for their own gain, it would be ridiculous.

What would be ideal for me is a Tory UKIP coalition. UKIP aren't prepared to run the country, they don't have a clue, but some of their policies are excellent and certainly need to be adopted by others. Such as them wanting to follow an immigration point system like Australia. Immigrants are fantastic, I'm pro immigration but on a level. We need immigrants that will bring something to the country, that will help us thrive. We also need those that do actually need help, such as Syrian refugees etc. not those that want to exploit our benefit system.

I'm happy with a Tory Lib Dem coalition though as the Tories do all the right things regarding the economy whilst the Lib Dems keep them in check.

You know a Tory/UKIP coalition would be best for this country right now. Like you said as much as I agree with a lot of UkIPs policies, they certainly aren't ready to run the country.

[DDA 9,941]

I'm sorry, but that's an incredible over-simplification.

Naturally there are a few gaps in the logic as a result. Firstly, immigrants create jobs as well. And not just by starting new business by by expanding the market and creating new markets for new products. Immigrants don't just just work, they consume as well. I'm no expert on Britain but all the studies I've read about in papers and such show that immigrants actually improve the British economy as mentioned above.

Secondly, you're assuming that the low-skill jobs that the immigrants are currently taking would remain in England once the immigrants are gone. Honestly, that's pretty naive. The only framework for corporations is to maximize profit at any cost. The moment that production elsewhere is more profitable, namely through relatively much cheaper labor costs, the big corporation will relocate to east Europe and such taking with them not just the jobs occupied by immigrants but jobs occupied by British people.

Finally the link you make (or imply) between large numbers of unskilled workers and poor economies not at all always true. Just look at the past 50 years or so, all the big economies that have risen have taken advantage of just that, mainly in east Asia, but also some South American countries.

But regardless of the above, I do know a little about the social and economical issues that the UK is facing at the time, and the fact that some have managed to convince the British people that all their problems can be pinned on immigrants is quite remarkable and frankly frightening. Because 'immigrants' is a very cheap excuse that plays to tribal territorial instincts of the people, but it is used a cover up for much bigger issues.

There are other solutions that are a lot more logical. You want better wealth distribution? Simply tax the super rich. Crack down on the enormous tax evasions of multinational corporations. You want more jobs? Then make a law that forces corporations to have the majority of their employees inside the UK instead of the sweat shops in east Asia, Africa and South America. Or how about, god forbid, moving away from fossil fuel companies and forcing policies towards green renewable energy that not only doesn't fry your grandchildren but also creates 3 times more jobs. You want better budgets for education/medical care...etc.? Then protest the huge investments in arms and military and war.

Here's another over simplification but one that I think holds a lot more truth: The reason that you don't have enough money is because there are 1% of the population who are taking more than 90% of the wealth of the nation. And that will remain the case regardless if there are 5% or 15% immigrants in the country.

I have to agree with most if what you have said in terms of taxing the super rich more heavily and forcing the bug corporations to employ more people within the country.

Though in regards to immigration, you will not convince me that the huge influx of eastern eauropeans and others are beneficial to This country whatsoever.

Please do not take this as prejiduce towards any group specifically because I have absolutely no quarrels with the eastern europeans or others.

I work in the Railway industry in London and since the growth in immigration the wages have been driven down rapidly and from this affecting me personally... I find it hard to tollerate!

This is happeneing in all over the country, making it harder to survive. The cost of living goes up and the wages are driven down.