The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[Randomshit 10]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

UEFA is just threatening. They have no power. Why would national leagues ban top clubs? For them it stays the same.

What? 

These associations are part of uefa. Ofcourse they will be affected. What is stopping them from creating a "domestic league" of their own. 

It is damn shameful what the club are doing and I am ashamed to be a supporter of it. It is not enough that we spend 100m more than the other clubs every season, now we want guarantee of success. Shameful entitlement. What is for Perez to have real Madrid start  every game with 1-0 scorline. Or for glazers to have United start with 12 men. This is a slap to competitive football and us fans. I am so happy that every fan club has come out in support of fa and uefa (who are not without their flaws). But can't believe 'anyone" would support this shameful shit. 

[Pizy 18,444]

Idk. I think it’d be kinda cool to see Chelsea play Real Madrid one match day, then see us playing Juventus the next, then Liverpool, then PSG etc. Just massive games every time between the best clubs in the world.

But I definitely can see why everyone seems to be against it. 

[Randomshit 10]

12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

UEFA is just threatening. They have no power. Why would national leagues ban top clubs? For them it stays the same.

Also, how does uefa have no power?

It can ban the club, and ban any player from ever playing in a uefa competition, not to add for their national teams. I think you are overestimating these egotistical, corporate psychopaths in Perez, glazers etc. They have no leverage and fans will revolt against their own clubs. 

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1 minute ago, Randomshit said:

Also, how does uefa have no power?

It can ban the club, and ban any player from ever playing in a uefa competition, not to add for their national teams. I think you are overestimating these egotistical, corporate psychopaths in Perez, glazers etc. They have no leverage and fans will revolt against their own clubs. 

It wont come to happen.......on the other side Uefa's new system is just horseshit. 36 teams instead of 32 does what exactly? Its just more games more matches thus more revenue, it does nothing to the system itself. They call it a reform but it really is not.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,531]

It is a money grab. I am all for clubs maximizing their income. I think it is wrong that they will do this at the expense of other PL teams and pretty much destroy lower league teams. It is even more of a shit thing to do when lower league teams have no gate funding to create income. The whole purpose of a league is create a competition where everyone is sustainable as long as they can manage their funds properly. Your league is only as healthy as your lowest teams.

This is a real shit move and I wish Chelsea was not a part of it. 

[Randomshit 10]

5 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

It wont come to happen.......on the other side Uefa's new system is just horseshit. 36 teams instead of 32 does what exactly? Its just more games more matches thus more revenue, it does nothing to the system itself. They call it a reform but it really is not.

And that gives a handful of yanky billionaires to come out, with a Yankee bank and create their own league? 

What exactly is the issue with the CL as it is now? The new reform gives a chance for a 5th or even a 6th team from the "best countries", is not that enough? These Yanky billionaires are doing what is best for their clubs and only their clubs. Let's not act as if they are reforming the way football is or they are driven by literally anything other than their own personal greed. 

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

15 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Idk. I think it’d be kinda cool to see Chelsea play Real Madrid one match day, then see us playing Juventus the next, then Liverpool, then PSG etc. Just massive games every time between the best clubs in the world.

But I definitely can see why everyone seems to be against it. 

I agree.

Football and sport in general are just fun and business. We live in capitalism. Why should this be different? I as a consumer will much more enjoy top teams playing each other every week. Also sounds maybe harsh but I do not care about Bate, Lodogorets, Red Star etc... Group stage is pointless, you know what will happen. Many teams are there just for goal differences. Every season the same. Plus often draw play big part. Imagine Super league 16 teams. 30 rounds, every week top games. In the end winner really is the best team. People want to see that. Guy who performs in the pub for 100 dollars per night should not complain when Lady Gaga or Bruce Springsteen make 2 millions per concert. People want to pay and see that. So really why should we care if some team from Romania or Poland dont get the chance to play top teams and get humiliated a couple of times per year? In this new Super League top teams like Liverpool, Barca can be bottom of the table, this is exciting. UEFA only have themself to blame. They should came out with this idea years ago. Clubs gave them time and they came out with even more stupid system. You can always even in Super League leave 2 open spots every year for teams that play final in 2nd major competition. So teams like Porto, Ajax can qualify if they deserve. This already happened in basketball and as we see it will happen in football.

30 minutes ago, Randomshit said:

Also, how does uefa have no power?

It can ban the club, and ban any player from ever playing in a uefa competition, not to add for their national teams. I think you are overestimating these egotistical, corporate psychopaths in Perez, glazers etc. They have no leverage and fans will revolt against their own clubs. 

National federations would eventually go against UEFA because they would want to keep top teams. UEFA can pretty much become irrelevant. 

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25 minutes ago, Randomshit said:

And that gives a handful of yanky billionaires to come out, with a Yankee bank and create their own league? 

What exactly is the issue with the CL as it is now? The new reform gives a chance for a 5th or even a 6th team from the "best countries", is not that enough? These Yanky billionaires are doing what is best for their clubs and only their clubs. Let's not act as if they are reforming the way football is or they are driven by literally anything other than their own personal greed. 

It is money grab but maybe also a shout that uefa needs to change things up. No as it stands CL has become stale.......adding more teams to even more useless group matches is not a reform.

[Randomshit 10]

5 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I agree.

Football and sport in general are just fun and business. We live in capitalism. Why should this be different? I as a consumer will much more enjoy top teams playing each other every week. Also sounds maybe harsh but I do not care about Bate, Lodogorets, Red Star etc... Group stage is pointless, you know what will happen. Many teams are there just for goal differences. Every season the same. Plus often draw play big part. Imagine Super league 16 teams. 30 rounds, every week top games. In the end winner really is the best team. People want to see that. Guy who performs in the pub for 100 dollars per night should not complain when Lady Gaga or Bruce Springsteen make 2 millions per concert. People want to pay and see that. So really why should we care if some team from Romania or Poland dont get the chance to play top teams and get humiliated a couple of times per year? In this new Super League top teams like Liverpool, Barca can be bottom of the table, this is exciting. UEFA only have themself to blame. They should came out with this idea years ago. Clubs gave them time and they came out with even more stupid system. You can always even in Super League leave 2 open spots every year for teams that play final in 2nd major competition. So teams like Porto, Ajax can qualify if they deserve. This already happened in basketball and as we see it will happen in football.

National federations would eventually go against UEFA because they would want to keep top teams. UEFA can pretty much become irrelevant. 

These teams (including my Chelsea) are big only because of fans and the money they get out of our viewership.i for one, will not support a club that goes against the fundamentals of  fair 'competition". I know a buckload of other true blues who would not. 

[Randomshit 10]

Just now, Atomiswave said:

It is money grab but maybe also a shout that uefa needs to change things up. No as it stands CL has become stale.......adding more teams to even more useless group matches is not a reform.

It is a European champions league. Porto, Benfica, Monaco, even champions of Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Belgium have as much of a right to play in it as the other multi billion clubs like ours do. This sense of entitlement is just vullshit and would not be there anymore when RA leaves us and we have to fend for ourselves.

It's a disgrace that anyone here is even supporting this.

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

Last season all 16 teams in knockout phase have been from top5 European league. This season 15. Only Porto from outside. 

This is basically just scraping pointless group stage and changing knockout system to more interesting and more games.

[Azpinator 2,325]

The audacity...

[Randomshit 10]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Last season all 16 teams in knockout phase have been from top5 European league. This season 15. Only Porto from outside. 

This is basically just scraping pointless group stage and changing knockout system to more interesting and more games.

Oh really. Were you that confident against Shakhtar in 2012-13? 

Did not spurs get knocked out by a non top 5 league team over a 2 legged tie. What gives them the right to play and have definitive status. What gives us the right when we could not even get beyond round of 16 in 7 freaking years. 

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

For this dreadful performance, southampton should be banned from playing football forever

[DDA 9,691]

Apparently there will be a statement released at 21.30hrs from each of the clubs who have signed up to join the Suepr League. 

Anyone have the links once released.. that would be great 👍

[Randomshit 10]

8 minutes ago, DDA said:

Apparently there will be a statement released at 21.30hrs from each of the clubs who have signed up to join the Suepr League. 

Anyone have the links once released.. that would be great 👍

Nothing yet

[Vytis33 1,171]

“15 permanent members who cannot be relegated” is the line that stood out to me.  Disgusting cash grab. 

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

17 minutes ago, Vytis33 said:

“15 permanent members who cannot be relegated” is the line that stood out to me.  Disgusting cash grab. 

See? They are generous, leaving one spot for outsiders.