Ruben Loftus-Cheek

[BlueLyon 9,359]

At 19 Terry was cleaning toilets, while Ruben is driving a ferrari.

Explains it all.

Having board who is cluessly playing Mikel ahead does no wonders either.  

[Tomo 21,733]

12 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

At 19 Terry was cleaning toilets, while Ruben is driving a ferrari.

Explains it all.

Having board who is cluessly playing Mikel ahead does no wonders either.  

As Cesc and Ruben pivot would get destroyed defensively.

As limited as Mikel is he does offer decent stability in that regard and let's be honest our defense need all the protection they can get right now.

Having said that Rubens cameo should warrant him more time now, that what you have to do as a young player, make the most of what ever minutes you get.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Needs a loan I think. Maybe one to the Bundesliga or something where he'll start, not the Championship.

[killer1257 3,282]

42 minutes ago, Kieran. said:

Needs a loan I think. Maybe one to the Bundesliga or something where he'll start, not the Championship.

No team in the world would pay his salary

[Blue Armour 4,278]

15 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Why didn't he start?
Yes, he's lazy off the ball, but surely it was out there for everyone to see how much better than Oscar he is.

 

The funny thing is,..the current version of Oscar seems to seems to be lazy off the ball as well. The one thing fans could appreciate about Oscar's game, was his work rate off the ball. 

Now that he doesn't even do this, its only common sense bringing RLC on instead.

[robsblubot 3,502]

15 hours ago, Tomo said:

As Cesc and Ruben pivot would get destroyed defensively.

As limited as Mikel is he does offer decent stability in that regard and let's be honest our defense need all the protection they can get right now.

Having said that Rubens cameo should warrant him more time now, that what you have to do as a young player, make the most of what ever minutes you get.

Don't know about your telly, but on mine Fabregas and Mikel pivot gets destroyed week in and out.

People keep saying there is some stability. but we keep conceding twice per match, home or away. It doesn't take a PSG either.

The defense is completely exposed facing attackers one-on-ones all the time, which even makes Azpi look like a poor defender - something he is not.

RLC needs minutes... pick anyone in midfield and replace him. It doesn't matter anymore.

Unless Hiddink has been told to give some players som minutes to raise their value/get some offers in... it happens.

[LondonsFinest 692]

He has said it himself he is adjusting physicly to his body weight and the speed of BPL. I doubt, he is being that lazy on purpose. It's just that he saves up stamina. Hence why he should be put next to Mikel and Cesc, but hey, Matic and Oscar do much more. Oh...

[It's too big 625]

That's the thing, everybody's body is different and no one person will have the same stamina. I notice with very tall players they don't particularly have fantastic stamina so maybe RLC can only do so much until his body disallows him to increase his stamina to very high levels. Not every player will have willian or kante esque stamina, I mean compare willians stamina to other players of similar stature's engines and there will be a vast contrast between the two players. 

[LondonsFinest 692]

Thing is, yes, he is very lazy, but Mourinho's brainwashed most of our fanbase, wanting workhorses. I'm not saying he should up his game, but people want him to eat the grass off, which his body obviously can't handle. He deserves to be an automatic starter until the end of the season. Which he won't 

[Muzchap 8,966]

16 minutes ago, LondonsFinest said:

Thing is, yes, he is very lazy, but Mourinho's brainwashed most of our fanbase, wanting workhorses. I'm not saying he should up his game, but people want him to eat the grass off, which his body obviously can't handle. He deserves to be an automatic starter until the end of the season. Which he won't 

I don't see any lazy players in the Leicester team - that's why they are top of the table. 

Playing a lazy player sets a shitty standard for the rest of the team. 

I'm glad you aren't in charge of making these decisions ???

[lucio 5,418]

2 hours ago, Robguima said:

Don't know about your telly, but on mine Fabregas and Mikel pivot gets destroyed week in and out.

People keep saying there is some stability. but we keep conceding twice per match, home or away. It doesn't take a PSG either.

The defense is completely exposed facing attackers one-on-ones all the time, which even makes Azpi look like a poor defender - something he is not.

RLC needs minutes... pick anyone in midfield and replace him. It doesn't matter anymore.

Unless Hiddink has been told to give some players som minutes to raise their value/get some offers in... it happens.

Any pivot gets destroyed. Almost like the formation is no good... weird. Maybe someone will realise in 5 years

[Leif 6,006]

Meanwhile we let Colkett play with boys when he would start for a lot of top sides

[iseah100 5,612]

Meanwhile we let Colkett play with boys when he would start for a lot of top sides

Colkett is by far my favorite youngster and he is rotting in the youth team. Smh.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

20 hours ago, Tomo said:

As Cesc and Ruben pivot would get destroyed defensively.

As limited as Mikel is he does offer decent stability in that regard and let's be honest our defense need all the protection they can get right now.

Having said that Rubens cameo should warrant him more time now, that what you have to do as a young player, make the most of what ever minutes you get.

As a big club we never had time to give young players a chance. It always came at cost of potential bad results. 

But now, we have all the time. Thats all we have. No pressure and no cost. 

Just from top of my head, Matic was awful in first games at benfica but he got time and soon became best player of portugal league. 

This shit season could be blessing in disguise to give youth a chance, something we cant do when we compete for trophies. But the board is clueless to not see that. Every damn club in world would play young players if they were in our position. Even united is doing it. But not us. We keep playing underperfoming player over and over, ignore young ones and hope something will change, while in reality everything moves downwards.

I agree about that pivot would be overrun. But hey why not try 4:3:3 with Mikel, Rlc and Cesc? But I guess that would be risk too much for Guus and we might lose a game instead of drawing.

[Yeboii 1,844]

On 1/3/2016 at 9:35 PM, LDN Blue said:

So he wouldn't actively be seeking a loan away just yet. But I'm sure if he continues to be messed around by 35s substitutions then he won't be quite the happy chappy he is now. Hiddink seems to be good at the whole man-management thing so I'm sure he's verbally communicating with RLC on a weekly basis about how he wants him to train along with Eddie Newton (Who I believe has been placed especially to work with the u21s).

He is getting back from a big injury

Quoted the wrong post. Was gonna quote Leif on the Colkett thing.

[Tomo 21,733]

2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

As a big club we never had time to give young players a chance. It always came at cost of potential bad results. 

But now, we have all the time. Thats all we have. No pressure and no cost. 

Just from top of my head, Matic was awful in first games at benfica but he got time and soon became best player of portugal league. 

This shit season could be blessing in disguise to give youth a chance, something we cant do when we compete for trophies. But the board is clueless to not see that. Every damn club in world would play young players if they were in our position. Even united is doing it. But not us. We keep playing underperfoming player over and over, ignore young ones and hope something will change, while in reality everything moves downwards.

I agree about that pivot would be overrun. But hey why not try 4:3:3 with Mikel, Rlc and Cesc? But I guess that would be risk too much for Guus and we might lose a game instead of drawing.

But not us? Traore and Kenedy have been getting ample game time since February, Ruben maybe could have got more, but he came one in last two games.

All in all over the course of this season, three youngsters have had some pretty handy game time and made some decent progress, if City have those three the same time their would be raves about Pellegrino youth development in the English Football thread.

[LondonsFinest 692]

On 20.03.2016 г. at 0:17 PM, Muzchap said:

I don't see any lazy players in the Leicester team - that's why they are top of the table. 

Playing a lazy player sets a shitty standard for the rest of the team. 

I'm glad you aren't in charge of making these decisions ???

So you'd prefer a Shinji Okazaki to a Dimitar Berbatov for example? Out of the odd 4, Leicester have taken advantage of the downfall of big teams. They aren't lazy, true, but they have fallen off with pressure getting to them. 

While I never said that Ruben isn't lazy, which I don't know why you jumped the gun in the first place, I also said he is adjusting his body, which I am kind of doubtful you understand, because you either don't play football or if you do, it's never been on a football pitch. My post was with exact sense, he is lazy, but needs time to be seen, whether he can just. On the other hand, I don't know if lazy players set the standards for the team. Eden is lazy in training, according to report,... our best player. 

 

Overall, your post was completely out of blue, knee jerk reaction, without a shadow of doubt, thoughtless. Because Ruben IS one of the best players in our club in terms of technical ability, passing and physique. Just needs that stamina and workrate. HENCE WHY, he should be next to Mikel and Cesc, rather than be played at 10.

[Muzchap 8,966]

12 hours ago, LondonsFinest said:

So you'd prefer a Shinji Okazaki to a Dimitar Berbatov for example? Out of the odd 4, Leicester have taken advantage of the downfall of big teams. They aren't lazy, true, but they have fallen off with pressure getting to them. 

While I never said that Ruben isn't lazy, which I don't know why you jumped the gun in the first place, I also said he is adjusting his body, which I am kind of doubtful you understand, because you either don't play football or if you do, it's never been on a football pitch. My post was with exact sense, he is lazy, but needs time to be seen, whether he can just. On the other hand, I don't know if lazy players set the standards for the team. Eden is lazy in training, according to report,... our best player. 

 

Overall, your post was completely out of blue, knee jerk reaction, without a shadow of doubt, thoughtless. Because Ruben IS one of the best players in our club in terms of technical ability, passing and physique. Just needs that stamina and workrate. HENCE WHY, he should be next to Mikel and Cesc, rather than be played at 10.

Dude - I like RLC but he must have a fundamental flaw to be continually left on the bench. 

Fine - you call it adjustment, I call it lack of work rate (lazy)

As for Leicester - you can only beat what's in front of you and for a whole team that cost £22 million they have done an exceptional job, I'm sorry but you cannot degrade their achievement this season. 

It wasn't knee jerk - it was more tongue in cheek and/or pisstake - sorry if it upset ya  

if Hazard is lazy in training, then one day he will realise the unfulfilled potential of his career and be sad about it... But if Hazard is lazy and off form, and potentially injured and still plays over RLC what does that say? I also notice that RLC is a similar build to Traore - yet he doesn't appear to suffer from adjustment problems  - not having a go at you - just saying what I see - I will be more than happy to be proven wrong - would love 4-5 Acadamy players to break-through it would be amazing, especially if we also delivered silverware!