Big stars could be sold

[ja1 1,166]

BK!

Sorry??

[GodZola 630]

Getting rid of so many players means that we need to sign as many of them or find some other solutions that could improve our squad. People are writing the names of names they don't like before even thinking how would that affect our already thin squad that doesn't give our manager a lot of options.

But I guess we will hear the same reactions if we are linked to Perreira or Willian type of player.

Fair comment, I just feel that some of these players are just dead wood anyway, I mean look at Ferreira & Hilario? I respect both players especially Ferreira but they never play & to me they are holding back are youth players. I think its time we started promoting are youth/reserves to some of the positions that are vacated this would save on transfer fees & huge salaries & then we could spend a decent sum on 3 perhaps 4 quality additions & I mean real quality not run of mill rubbish, fuck the puppets out of buying players & leave it to the manager again, like Kenyon's relationship with Mourinho, Jose gave him a list in the summer & Kenyon done the rest (before Roman got his fingers in the pie) This squad needs rebuilding, I've always said its 2 years too late but unfortunately its better late than never.

[Ollie 4,400]

To be honest, if AVB doesn't know who to get rid of after watching this season, we really are in trouble. It is getting really boring tho reading in EVERY SINGLE THREAD people posting....

Team Line ups

Who should go

Who should stay

What AVB needs to do in the summer

The fact is that we're a fucking shambolic mess of a team and drastic and i mean DRASTIC change is needed. Fuck evolution, we need revolution and we need to start as soon as this piece of shit season is over.

[Tomo 21,751]

Cech

Ivanovic

Cole

Bertrand

Luiz

Hummels

Essien

Romeu

Ramires

Lampard

Moutinho

Torres

Falcao/Cavani

Mata

Drogba

Hulk

Mikel

Malouda

Hazard

Meireles

Bosingwa

Azperialla (whatever his name is)

Feirreira

Hutchinson

McEachran

Kalou

De Bruyne

Turnbull

Hennesy

Sturridge

Cahill

Terry

Van Aanholt

Kalas

Clifford

Piazon

Hilario

Blackman

[Manuf 1,448]

Lately the essence of Talk Chelsea:

OUT: COLE, MIKEL (NO GOAL = SHIT), ROMEU (TOO YOUNG, GO TO BARCA), BOSINGWA, MEIRELES, ESSIEN, MALOUDA, KALOU, DROGBA, HILARIO, FERREIRA, TURNBULL, TORRES AND EVERYONE WHO UNDERPERFORMS COS ROMAN GOT CASH AND HE BUY PLAYERS

SUB: CECH, TERRY, LAMPARD

PROMOTE: josh, ryan, toddy kane, courtois, piazon, feruz, chalobah, bruma (ooops, not anymore, forgotten already), van aanholt

BUY: azpilicutea, van der wiel, messi, hazard, aguero, cavani, hamsik, lavezzi

Let's play with: 1-2-1-3-2-1

Move Luiz to midfield, he's stupid and makes stupid mistakes, move van aanholt to the wing, cos he's best suited there, play sturridge as cf with lukaku supporting, the midfield of josh, piazon and swift is much better, bench lampard and terry and put chalobah in the back. Also buy de jorge juan maxigansgdh from whatever league cos i've played football manager and he rises to 11 stars. Oh and roman spend some cash already and buy hazard but don't forget to integrate youth.

So get the fucking grip guys, none of you is a real manager and I don't think you've ever managed any team because than you'd see that when you HAVE to win you don't play someone who is inexperienced and you choose the best guy who performed well, you just need that assurance and stop selling every friggin player because we already have one of the thinest squads of top clubs in Europe if we can still consider ourselves a member of this bunch. It's fucking tiring when I open new threads and everyone has this great ideas of selling old players, integrating youth and buying stars and they also want us to be self-sufficient, just like they were members of our board of coaching stuff. It's not a fucking video game!

[Santiago. 1,500]

Lately the essence of Talk Chelsea:

OUT: COLE, MIKEL (NO GOAL = SHIT), ROMEU (TOO YOUNG, GO TO BARCA), BOSINGWA, MEIRELES, ESSIEN, MALOUDA, KALOU, DROGBA, HILARIO, FERREIRA, TURNBULL, TORRES AND EVERYONE WHO UNDERPERFORMS COS ROMAN GOT CASH AND HE BUY PLAYERS

SUB: CECH, TERRY, LAMPARD

PROMOTE: josh, ryan, toddy kane, courtois, piazon, feruz, chalobah, bruma (ooops, not anymore, forgotten already), van aanholt

BUY: azpilicutea, van der wiel, messi, hazard, aguero, cavani, hamsik, lavezzi

Let's play with: 1-2-1-3-2-1

Move Luiz to midfield, he's stupid and makes stupid mistakes, move van aanholt to the wing, cos he's best suited there, play sturridge as cf with lukaku supporting, the midfield of josh, piazon and swift is much better, bench lampard and terry and put chalobah in the back. Also buy de jorge juan maxigansgdh from whatever league cos i've played football manager and he rises to 11 stars. Oh and roman spend some cash already and buy hazard but don't forget to integrate youth.

So get the fucking grip guys, none of you is a real manager and I don't think you've ever managed any team because than you'd see that when you HAVE to win you don't play someone who is inexperienced and you choose the best guy who performed well, you just need that assurance and stop selling every friggin player because we already have one of the thinest squads of top clubs in Europe if we can still consider ourselves a member of this bunch. It's fucking tiring when I open new threads and everyone has this great ideas of selling old players, integrating youth and buying stars and they also want us to be self-sufficient, just like they were members of our board of coaching stuff. It's not a fucking video game!

No it's not a video game, it's just logical thinking.

Would rather have Young players who are hungry rather than overpriced veterans who under perform consistently and show the utmost disrespect to their manager thinking they have more power than him.

[Hysteria 159]

Lately the essence of Talk Chelsea:

OUT: COLE, MIKEL (NO GOAL = SHIT), ROMEU (TOO YOUNG, GO TO BARCA), BOSINGWA, MEIRELES, ESSIEN, MALOUDA, KALOU, DROGBA, HILARIO, FERREIRA, TURNBULL, TORRES AND EVERYONE WHO UNDERPERFORMS COS ROMAN GOT CASH AND HE BUY PLAYERS

SUB: CECH, TERRY, LAMPARD

PROMOTE: josh, ryan, toddy kane, courtois, piazon, feruz, chalobah, bruma (ooops, not anymore, forgotten already), van aanholt

BUY: azpilicutea, van der wiel, messi, hazard, aguero, cavani, hamsik, lavezzi

Let's play with: 1-2-1-3-2-1

Move Luiz to midfield, he's stupid and makes stupid mistakes, move van aanholt to the wing, cos he's best suited there, play sturridge as cf with lukaku supporting, the midfield of josh, piazon and swift is much better, bench lampard and terry and put chalobah in the back. Also buy de jorge juan maxigansgdh from whatever league cos i've played football manager and he rises to 11 stars. Oh and roman spend some cash already and buy hazard but don't forget to integrate youth.

So get the fucking grip guys, none of you is a real manager and I don't think you've ever managed any team because than you'd see that when you HAVE to win you don't play someone who is inexperienced and you choose the best guy who performed well, you just need that assurance and stop selling every friggin player because we already have one of the thinest squads of top clubs in Europe if we can still consider ourselves a member of this bunch. It's fucking tiring when I open new threads and everyone has this great ideas of selling old players, integrating youth and buying stars and they also want us to be self-sufficient, just like they were members of our board of coaching stuff. It's not a fucking video game!

Maybe some people here is a little drastic, but we need to get rid of players who want to have more power than the mananger if it is true. For me, its harmful for the club.

[BLionheart 516]

Lately the essence of Talk Chelsea:

OUT: COLE, MIKEL (NO GOAL = SHIT), ROMEU (TOO YOUNG, GO TO BARCA), BOSINGWA, MEIRELES, ESSIEN, MALOUDA, KALOU, DROGBA, HILARIO, FERREIRA, TURNBULL, TORRES AND EVERYONE WHO UNDERPERFORMS COS ROMAN GOT CASH AND HE BUY PLAYERS

SUB: CECH, TERRY, LAMPARD

PROMOTE: josh, ryan, toddy kane, courtois, piazon, feruz, chalobah, bruma (ooops, not anymore, forgotten already), van aanholt

BUY: azpilicutea, van der wiel, messi, hazard, aguero, cavani, hamsik, lavezzi

Let's play with: 1-2-1-3-2-1

Move Luiz to midfield, he's stupid and makes stupid mistakes, move van aanholt to the wing, cos he's best suited there, play sturridge as cf with lukaku supporting, the midfield of josh, piazon and swift is much better, bench lampard and terry and put chalobah in the back. Also buy de jorge juan maxigansgdh from whatever league cos i've played football manager and he rises to 11 stars. Oh and roman spend some cash already and buy hazard but don't forget to integrate youth.

So get the fucking grip guys, none of you is a real manager and I don't think you've ever managed any team because than you'd see that when you HAVE to win you don't play someone who is inexperienced and you choose the best guy who performed well, you just need that assurance and stop selling every friggin player because we already have one of the thinest squads of top clubs in Europe if we can still consider ourselves a member of this bunch. It's fucking tiring when I open new threads and everyone has this great ideas of selling old players, integrating youth and buying stars and they also want us to be self-sufficient, just like they were members of our board of coaching stuff. It's not a fucking video game!

ٍRegardless the way you have put that down but some of those ideas look superb !! ,

Yes , i would like to see all of Bosingwa , Cole , Ferrera , Malouda , Kalou ,Mikel , Drogba , Meireles and 1 of Essien or Lampard out of chelsea FC and i am looking forward to the introduction of Swift , Josh , Paizon and youth players , in fact i am still excited about Kakuta with all of his dissappointements but he still has a better chance to become a world-class player than Torres to be a decent forward .

And about the additions and the money , i am very glad that we have Abrahimovic to back us up but if we sell those big old useless players and replace with younger players , we will decrease our wage bill to at least its half while having a much better team , so in the long run not very costy.

But i know such a plan will have to take place gradually , and won't happen in 1 or 2 seasons and hopefully that is the 3 years project AVB is always talking about , i know most will think that this season shouldn't be counted as part of a transitional period because of no youth integration but in fact this season is one the most important in any transition period as it will hopefully be remembered as the season when the likes of Anelka , Malouda , Kalou , Bosingwa , Ferrera and such bought their tickets out of the club.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

MANUF: get essence of what your sayin and yea youth has to be brought about in a slow careful way. Should avb have sacked the older guys?? Yes no maybe so but youth can only be implemented when things are going good. If we bring on Bertrand now, my oh my the risk is as high as mount everest! Blame would go to avb for experimenting in a time of a dire crisis!!

The problem is simply th owner!! Roman. Firing people left right center! How can anybody worry about the future when it all about now, and the next game!! Arsene and Sir Alex can assure targets of where they see them playing an can actually stay there long enough to keep that promise! Stability stability stability! One word not in Romans vocab, or in the board either.

IN AVB I TRUST!!

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

You almost nailed this BB, however you omitted Ferreira from your list to be sold & you are right about Drogba but I will get back to that later in my post. All those players need to go first before you start getting rid of the players that we need to keep for a while longer yet, yes used less but let's use their experience to help promote the exciting youth we have got coming through the ranks & who better than lamps, Essien, Cole & Drogba, besides the hierarchy have got their fingers burnt before with letting decent players go to soon.

Now I'm surprised that this thread has not had more exposure as to me this situation is the most pertinent issue that needs to be addressed at our club because the way I see things at the mo, is a power struggle between manager & senior players that is having a detrimental effect that is affecting the club from top to bottom. I'm not going to go into the politics of whose right & whose wrong but I will say that the senior players are giving the exact reaction you would want from top pro's, I just wish they could show more dignity by keeping their grudges in house. As for AVB, I think he has made mistakes with poor man management, he needs to get these senior players on his side & this is were Drogba comes in, for me he would make a terrific coach, so with one common sense decision the club could have a win-win situation on their hands if they installed him as player coach, he wants to stay, has Chelsea in his blood, the players respect him & he could act as the negotiator between the players & Andre. Yes I did say that DROGBA FOR PLAYER COACH - you heard it first!

Lastly the only way I cannot see a change is if we turn our season around, otherwise something has got to give the manager or the senior players? The next couple months will reveal all, I will say one thing - there's never a dull moment at our club nowadays!!!

I wouldn't mind selling Cole either but only if a substantial offer of say 15m+ was offered.Don't get me wrong,I like Cole.He's been a terrific player for us and has always been consistent but he is blocking a start for Ryan.We must implement our youth prospects on the field from time to time as it will give them vital experience of the premier league.Ryan looks like a great prospect and can be a great replacement for Cole.He needs to be played more often and this can only happen if Cole leaves but then again AVB might consider another world class left back as his replacement,so its up to the manager to decide.

Not many clubs will offer a lot of money for a 32 year old left back,so its time we sell our players at the right and try to get a profit.Plus his wages are just outrageous,150k a week is just uncanny.

[Iced 34]

I don't care.. do whatever needs to be done

[GodZola 630]

To be honest, if AVB doesn't know who to get rid of after watching this season, we really are in trouble. It is getting really boring tho reading in EVERY SINGLE THREAD people posting....

Team Line ups

Who should go

Who should stay

What AVB needs to do in the summer

The fact is that we're a fucking shambolic mess of a team and drastic and i mean DRASTIC change is needed. Fuck evolution, we need revolution and we need to start as soon as this piece of shit season is over.

Off course you quite correct about too many threads etc & it wasn't finger pointing at anyone in particular, was a generalization but some of us havn't even read the post on threads let alone posting & yesterday was the first time ever I have posted a formation on this site & that's was only because I felt strongly about our team selection & formation that I feel needs to be used til the end of the season. So some have good reason to.

Besides I did say a few weeks back that there should be a new section for our managers past & present & then there could be sub categories for all these never ending threads in there, therefore not clogging up things in here. Perhaps if someone else who actually gets noticed on here says something then the powers that be might give an answer, I feel like a ghost on here most of the time!

[GodZola 630]

Lately the essence of Talk Chelsea:

OUT: COLE, MIKEL (NO GOAL = SHIT), ROMEU (TOO YOUNG, GO TO BARCA), BOSINGWA, MEIRELES, ESSIEN, MALOUDA, KALOU, DROGBA, HILARIO, FERREIRA, TURNBULL, TORRES AND EVERYONE WHO UNDERPERFORMS COS ROMAN GOT CASH AND HE BUY PLAYERS

SUB: CECH, TERRY, LAMPARD

PROMOTE: josh, ryan, toddy kane, courtois, piazon, feruz, chalobah, bruma (ooops, not anymore, forgotten already), van aanholt

BUY: azpilicutea, van der wiel, messi, hazard, aguero, cavani, hamsik, lavezzi

Let's play with: 1-2-1-3-2-1

Move Luiz to midfield, he's stupid and makes stupid mistakes, move van aanholt to the wing, cos he's best suited there, play sturridge as cf with lukaku supporting, the midfield of josh, piazon and swift is much better, bench lampard and terry and put chalobah in the back. Also buy de jorge juan maxigansgdh from whatever league cos i've played football manager and he rises to 11 stars. Oh and roman spend some cash already and buy hazard but don't forget to integrate youth.

So get the fucking grip guys, none of you is a real manager and I don't think you've ever managed any team because than you'd see that when you HAVE to win you don't play someone who is inexperienced and you choose the best guy who performed well, you just need that assurance and stop selling every friggin player because we already have one of the thinest squads of top clubs in Europe if we can still consider ourselves a member of this bunch. It's fucking tiring when I open new threads and everyone has this great ideas of selling old players, integrating youth and buying stars and they also want us to be self-sufficient, just like they were members of our board of coaching stuff. It's not a fucking video game!

Actually mate threads like this were about last season & the players I want out are not too dissimilar to what I have posted on this thread, & if you take the time to read some posts they don't all say the same things, I don't want the old guard out I want the mediocre players got shot of & to be replaced by some youth & 3 or 4 quality players bought to invigorate our stale squad.

It's not being called playstation manager its called being a realist!

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

What the fuck? I resented Roman for sacking Mourinho and Ancelotti, but if this is true, he couldn't have chosen a worse time to support the manager. If we don't want to pull a Liverpool, AVB must go NOW. We have to somehow salvage something this season or it will be even more difficult to clear the dead wood in summer than it is now.

[kiaretta985 131]

What the fuck? I resented Roman for sacking Mourinho and Ancelotti, but if this is true, he couldn't have chosen a worse time to support the manager. If we don't want to pull a Liverpool, AVB must go NOW. We have to somehow salvage something this season or it will be even more difficult to clear the dead wood in summer than it is now.

sorry, but I don't get why it would become more difficult. It doesn't matter if we finish the season 4th, 7th or 15th, the dead wood has to go with no excuses. the only thing difficult imo would be attracting quality players if we finish out of the top 4.

[Blue Armour 4,483]

sorry, but I don't get why it would become more difficult. It doesn't matter if we finish the season 4th, 7th or 15th, the dead wood has to go with no excuses. the only thing difficult imo would be attracting quality players if we finish out of the top 4.

Exactly why it would be difficult to clear the dead wood.

[kiaretta985 131]

^ maybe, but it sounds to me like a dog chasing his tail. atm the so-called dead wood is doing nothing to keep us in the top 4. why should we keep 'em for another season? because they think they're still worth playing for Chelsea?

and if they don't want to go... well, we should act like Juventus did with Amauri :unsure:

[Beirut_Blues 306]

Theyre done.

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

^ maybe, but it sounds to me like a dog chasing his tail. atm the so-called dead wood is doing nothing to keep us in the top 4. why should we keep 'em for another season? because they think they're still worth playing for Chelsea?

and if they don't want to go... well, we should act like Juventus did with Amauri :unsure:

I didn't say we should keep them for another season. I said we get rid of AVB now and try get that 4th CL spot with the players we have now because that's the best we can do. Then, in summer when the window opens, we can clear the dead wood, bring in new faces (and not some Blackpool star), etc.

Not that any of that will happen. It really won't. I can't see why people are getting excited over this.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Big clubs need players with experience sometimes. They don't necessarily have to be players that have already been at the club. United were able to do it with Scholes & Giggs because they were willing to adapt.

Like we look at City and they have quite a bit of experience in Yaya Toure, Kolo Toure, David Pizzaro now etc. They weren't there from the beginning but Mancini brought them in because they've been there, done that. Okay not necessarily in England (although Kolo was) but they're all title winners respectively.

Mourinho did it with Makelele, who turned out to be key as a first team player too. I'm sure André realises we do need players of experience to go with his young revolution/evolution but not the players that will undermine him. Terry is one of those players that can stay, Lampard's attitude has proved he can't. I always picture Ashley as one who'd stay for experience sake, but if this argument is true then there's a real problem.

I really hope André finds peace and calm with Lampard, Ashley & Essien. In the long-run these guys could be key when we make signings to be the new spine of Chelsea because these guys have been there & done that. They can be mentors and pass on secrets of their trade, that kind of thing is vital in a major club.