CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 What midfielder do we have better and more consistent than Piazon in the youth team?Saville, Lalkovic, Affane, the Clifords, etc...are all at least as good as Lucas and have been here much longer than he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Saville, Lalkovic, Affane, the Clifords, etc...are all at least as good as Lucas and have been here much longer than he has.Because they've been here longer means fuck all. Just saying.And if they really are as good, then why have they not gotten called up to the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Because they've been here longer means fuck all. Just saying. And if they really are as good, then why have they not gotten called up to the first team? Piazon hasn't played a single competitive game either. Not even in Brazil. Not saying he's not talented. But imo he doesn't deserve all this hype when he's not shown anything yet. Of course we hope that he becomes a good footballer, but it's a long way to go still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Because they've been here longer means fuck all. Just saying.And if they really are as good, then why have they not gotten called up to the first team?Mainly because they never played for the U17 Brasil side. I've seen Lucas playing in many games at both youth and reserve level and I can honestly say he hasn't got anything over the rest of our youngsters. His talent is undeniable, but so everyone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Mainly because they never played for the U17 Brasil side. I've seen Lucas playing in many games at both youth and reserve level and I can honestly say he hasn't got anything over the rest of our youngsters. His talent is undeniable, but so everyone else's.Fair enough, but the question is why did AVB select him to train with the first team ahead of the many players you and many others seem to think are on the same level or even better than him?Piazon hasn't played a single competitive game either. Not even in Brazil. Not saying he's not talented. But imo he doesn't deserve all this hype when he's not shown anything yet. Of course we hope that he becomes a good footballer, but it's a long way to go stillHe was going to get this oppurtunity sooner rather than later, before we bought him.I'm not calling for him to start, but surely 10-20 minutes in cup games can't be too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 What the hell with Piazon ? We have players better than him in the reserve / youth team. It's fortunate for him that he looks like Kaka and not Kalou... Imagine what would be his hypes.Uhmmm no, he stands out in reserve matches, some what i've seen. Plus he's scored some good goals, scored a cracker against Arsenal, and kicks out a good pass, there's a reason why he was put into our squad against Swansea out of all the other reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Fair enough, but the question is why did AVB select him to train with the first team ahead of the many players you and many others seem to think are on the same level or even better than him?For the same reason Torres is being started over Romelu: reputation. I'm afraid we have turned into a club where a reknowned player is prefered over a more skillful squad member. We would rather give oriol a chance because he came from Barcelona before Josh because he is a homegrown talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 For the same reason Torres is being started over Romelu: reputation. I'm afraid we have turned into a club where a reknowned player is prefered over a more skillful squad member. We would rather give oriol a chance because he came from Barcelona before Josh because he is a homegrown talent.To be fair Torres is better than Romelu, i just want Romelu to start because he has new ideas where Torres is going to be the same thing, and the only way to fix it is going to be getting new players, he will be benched for a bit, then come back and start playing good, but only for about 3 games.Torres has a much better technical abillity, Romelu must work on his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I think it makes sense that the portoguese and spanish speaking players are on AVB's side..Anyone else find it totally f*cked up that we have to talk about sides in our team? It's like in Real Madrid. Jose Mourinho allegedly favours his Portuguese and the Spanish aren't happy. It seems that here the Portuguese and Brazilians are happy, but English, French (one now, Anelka got kicked already) and African seem rather unhappy. It's a shame if AVB is nationally biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 To be fair Torres is better than Romelu, i just want Romelu to start because he has new ideas where Torres is going to be the same thing, and the only way to fix it is going to be getting new players, he will be benched for a bit, then come back and start playing good, but only for about 3 games.Torres has a much better technical abillity, Romelu must work on his.Yes torres has better technical ability over Romelu, heck I'd even argue he has better technical ability over most of the Leagues strikers. But romelu has the instinct ( as he showed against Everton) and the desire to make him much more likely to score goals-the objective of every striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yes torres has better technical ability over Romelu, heck I'd even argue he has better technical ability over most of the Leagues strikers. But romelu has the instinct ( as he showed against Everton) and the desire to make him much more likely to score goals-the objective of every striker.Well that's what i meant by new ideas, but AVB seems to want a forward who can pass and cross etc, not just be on the run to score goals, Lukaku must play this upcoming game however, be good for him if he scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 You're silly if you believe in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic! 301 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Lukaku can't play against Napoli, so give him some decent amount of minutes. Otherwise he's without first team football for over 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Lukaku can't play against Napoli, so give him some decent amount of minutes. Otherwise he's without first team football for over 2 weeks. I think he can actually. There were reports that he had been added to the CL squad for the knockout stage. But nothing official so it's not 100% certain. Since Anelka was removed, I'm guessing Lukaku was definitely included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If AVB does not play Lukaku and Bertrand from the start then it is the last straw with him from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If AVB does not play Lukaku and Bertrand from the start then it is the last straw with him from meIt's inevitable that the Portuguese duo andThe Handicapped number 9 will both start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 start withchechivan-luiz-Cahil-BertranLampard-romeupiazon-mata-MaloudaSturridgeIf kalou is healthy start him instead of Piazon. if things are going good then. Lukaku for Sturridge, and Mata should also be sub'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 If we do not win this I will shoot myself ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Starting Lukaku is a no brainer. If you think about it, there's absolutely no risk in playing him. He can go 20 games without scoring and he'd have done just as well as our first choice striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogzola 283 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Starting Lukaku is a no brainer. If you think about it, there's absolutely no risk in playing him. He can go 20 games without scoring and he'd have done just as well as our first choice striker.Actually he would have been better because he cost way less than our first choice striker. Its actually crazy if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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