Kevin de Bruyne

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Oh dear, oh dear Already on 10 goals for City this season and has made 10 assists for them already. 6 of those goals have been in the PL, 1 goal in the UCL and 8 of those assists have been in the PL too. You probably will say the COC is irrelevant so that is why I pointed that out.

You predicted 5 goals and 5 assists. KDB has completely squashed that prediction. Now let's see if he makes that 15 assists you said is impossible for him to make. 5 more assists for him to make to also squash your second prediction which you said is "near impossible".

Have not seen you on here for a while but I would love to see what you have to say about Oscar being a better fit for us than KDB now. You also said we would win more games with him as no.10 than we would with KDB in the team. Just...

I think people on here actually need to accept KDB is a world class player and is only 24.

One of Jose's biggest mistakes was not giving KDB a proper chance. If only....

Erm how about no, even Oscar (your favourite boo boy) was fantastic against Sunderland? So is Oscar world class too? No, the first quality opposition he came up against was Arsenal and he was anonymous, actually no, he was fucking terrible and couldn't string a pass together, both are not big characters and I bet every pound I have that if he was still here he would be getting stick for being a no show against teams in the top 7 and he would be in the same funk as the rest of the players.

This needs to stop, neither Oscar nor KdB nor Mata is what we need; we need a midfielder like Pogba and that's the end of it.

By the way when City brought him I said they would be a top heavy team and when a team take the game to them they pack in, which is why they won't win the title.

[Atholy 1,293]

Erm how about no, even Oscar (your favourite boo boy) was fantastic against Sunderland? So is Oscar world class too? No, the first quality opposition he came up against was Arsenal and he was anonymous, actually no, he was fucking terrible and couldn't string a pass together, both are not big characters and I bet every pound I have that if he was still here he would be getting stick for being a no show against teams in the top 7 and he would be in the same funk as the rest of the players.

This needs to stop, neither Oscar nor KdB nor Mata is what we need; we need a midfielder like Pogba and that's the end of it.

By the way when City brought him I said they would be a top heavy team and when a team take the game to them they pack in, which is why they won't win the title.

So you say:

"A world class midfielder like KDB, who's smashing opposition in his first real PL season, is not what we need..."

Sure! I get your point...

[Stats 7,059]

Erm how about no, even Oscar (your favourite boo boy) was fantastic against Sunderland? So is Oscar world class too? No, the first quality opposition he came up against was Arsenal and he was anonymous, actually no, he was fucking terrible and couldn't string a pass together, both are not big characters and I bet every pound I have that if he was still here he would be getting stick for being a no show against teams in the top 7 and he would be in the same funk as the rest of the players.

This needs to stop, neither Oscar nor KdB nor Mata is what we need; we need a midfielder like Pogba and that's the end of it.

By the way when City brought him I said they would be a top heavy team and when a team take the game to them they pack in, which is why they won't win the title.

Erm, how about get your facts right. He is not my favourite boo boy btw. I voted him MOTM against Sunderland. I remember against Spurs, others said he done shit, I thought he was decent however he is in a position where you expect more from a no.10, especially when other better players such as Mata and especially KDB left and Oscar was trusted, his performances are going to be scrutinized more and rightly so. Do I often think he is the weak link in our team? Yes I do. Can we do with an upgrade? Yes, we could. And to compare one world class performance from Oscar in 2-3 years is a ridiculous comparison. KDB has had plenty of those games.

For the record I actually thought him and Toure (second half) were two of the more better players in that Arsenal game.

And no it does not need to stop because it is a KDB thread and I will write what I want regarding him thanks. Yeah, we could do with a midfielder like Pogba but that is such bullshit to think KDB would not be an upgrade on this team.

And FWIW, I still reckon they will win the title and like I have stated before it is the smaller games that might go a long way to winning them the title.. Anyway, you have any agenda against KDB so not really surprised.

And you know what is funny. I only mentioned Oscar once because someone stated he would be a better fit. All my other post was based on KDB. You just gone on this rant and assumed I have slated Oscar when I have not. I stated the truth that it was a ridiculous assumption to say we will win more with Oscar than KDB. And that is the truth.

[Barbara 15,149]

I still see him as a player who shines against small teams and disappears against big or decent ones. This thread went literally 2 weeks without any post when I prompted it. I knew the moment he smashed an almighty team like Sunderland it would come to life again. As I said, it's enough to shine against small teams. Thing is people say a lot about how our current team is awful, but City with their great team, is rallying after Leicester and Arsenal. Even if Pellegrini is a moron, the quality of the team alone should have them carrying away with the title. But they didn't exactly show a lot against big or decent teams have they?

On the other hand, I do admit I'm not looking forward to them having Guardiola though.

[Jase 43,479]

De Bruyne is a flat track bully who only turns up against smaller teams and not the bigger ones?

Seems 'strange' coming from some people when they probably didn't mind Fabregas doing the same thing last season.

[Stats 7,059]

I still see him as a player who shines against small teams and disappears against big or decent ones. This thread went literally 2 weeks without any post when I prompted it. I knew the moment he smashed an almighty team like Sunderland it would come to life again. As I said, it's enough to shine against small teams. Thing is people say a lot about how our current team is awful, but City with their great team, is rallying after Leicester and Arsenal. Even if Pellegrini is a moron, the quality of the team alone should have them carrying away with the title. But they didn't exactly show a lot against big or decent teams have they?

On the other hand, I do admit I'm not looking forward to them having Guardiola though.

So maybe that is down to the manager's tactics? Silva was equally poor as well yet he is considered a world class player but don't really see people saying the same about him. Let's not forget that KDB but on a masterclass against Bayern last year. Who cares if he has not done it against the big teams really? United, they played defensive. Arsenal, Pellegrini got the tacticd wrong. KDB missed a sitter but I thought he was their most impressive player that night. He was the only one bar Toure who was looking like making something happen.

Like I said, he has not been standout in the big games. However he has been great in his first season and there is no two ways about it. He was a big game player against Sevilla that night. Great individual goal which set them on the way forward in the UCL. The smaller games might actually be the games that win them the title like I said when you look at the table, end of the season.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Erm, how about get your facts right. He is not my favourite boo boy btw. I voted him MOTM against Sunderland. I remember against Spurs, others said he done shit, I thought he was decent however he is in a position where you expect more from a no.10, especially when other better players such as Mata and especially KDB left and Oscar was trusted, his performances are going to be scrutinized more and rightly so. Do I often think he is the weak link in our team? Yes I do. Can we do with an upgrade? Yes, we could. And to compare one world class performance from Oscar in 2-3 years is a ridiculous comparison. KDB has had plenty of those games.

For the record I actually thought him and Toure (second half) were two of the more better players in that Arsenal game.

And no it does not need to stop because it is a KDB thread and I will write what I want regarding him thanks. Yeah, we could do with a midfielder like Pogba but that is such bullshit to think KDB would not be an upgrade on this team.

And FWIW, I still reckon they will win the title and like I have stated before it is the smaller games that might go a long way to winning them the title.. Anyway, you have any agenda against KDB so not really surprised.

And you know what is funny. I only mentioned Oscar once because someone stated he would be a better fit. All my other post was based on KDB. You just gone on this rant and assumed I have slated Oscar when I have not. I stated the truth that it was a ridiculous assumption to say we will win more with Oscar than KDB. And that is the truth.

No, neither are what we need - my point is that we will not win more with KdB than we do with Oscar now because it will just add to the same problem; small game players. Fabregas is a small game player, but in 14/15 we had enough big game players to balance it out. It seems Drogba made the difference. Look at that City team now; most are small game players which is why they rely on Aguero and Toure to fire, and if both do not then they don't win.

I have an agenda against KdB? No, I've just had enough of people saying he would solve our problems when he would not. He would exacerbate them, yesterday against Watford we had to send on Mikel to shore up the midfield even with Oscar in there. We need an upgrade on Oscar but the answer is certainly not KdB and certainly not Mata; we need a CM like Pogba and that's the end of it, and only then should we consider another #10 - but it's more likely Hazard would slot in there.

You're not thinking in terms of an overall impact of the team, you're thinking on an individual basis. KdB has quality, I'm not denying that but he won't work in a team with Fabregas and Hazard in there. We would literally become an embodiment of Arsenal.

[Weckerz 3,781]

He's not what we need lol

Half our team don't know the basics of football, we can't string 3 decent passes together, we have attacking mids who severly lack end product but we couldn't do with KDB, the embodiement of efficiency.

The crap you read here sometimes

[Hostedenis 556]

No, neither are what we need - my point is that we will not win more with KdB than we do with Oscar now because it will just add to the same problem; small game players. Fabregas is a small game player, but in 14/15 we had enough big game players to balance it out. It seems Drogba made the difference. Look at that City team now; most are small game players which is why they rely on Aguero and Toure to fire, and if both do not then they don't win.

I have an agenda against KdB? No, I've just had enough of people saying he would solve our problems when he would not. He would exacerbate them, yesterday against Watford we had to send on Mikel to shore up the midfield even with Oscar in there. We need an upgrade on Oscar but the answer is certainly not KdB and certainly not Mata; we need a CM like Pogba and that's the end of it, and only then should we consider another #10 - but it's more likely Hazard would slot in there.

You're not thinking in terms of an overall impact of the team, you're thinking on an individual basis. KdB has quality, I'm not denying that but he won't work in a team with Fabregas and Hazard in there. We would literally become an embodiment of Arsenal.

I don't get this KdB is a small game player idea. He's shown he can do it in the big games as well (Bayern Munich victory with Wolfsburg being the biggest example).

People were saying the same things about Suarez at Liverpool, how he scored four against a bottom club but couldn't score against us. Now look at where he is.

[Special Juan 27,439]

The fat of the problem is some people can't swallow the fact he has gone, and kicked on. He would walk into this side right now, he's playing some really good football, yet he's still young and learning.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I don't get this KdB is a small game player idea. He's shown he can do it in the big games as well (Bayern Munich victory with Wolfsburg being the biggest example).

People were saying the same things about Suarez at Liverpool, how he scored four against a bottom club but couldn't score against us. Now look at where he is.

Suarez is the best striker in the world. KdB isn't even the best RW in England.

That argument is akin to Oscar surviving on his Juve game - I think the same points are being made, so I'll leave it there.

[Hostedenis 556]

Suarez is the best striker in the world. KdB isn't even the best RW in England.

That argument is akin to Oscar surviving on his Juve game - I think the same points are being made, so I'll leave it there.

I never said KdB is the best RW in the premier league. That's open to debate.

But KdB's Bayern game isn't akin to Oscar surviving on his Juve game! Oscar's was two/three years ago, KdB's was last season. And Oscar has never hit 15 goals and 25 assists in one season, which KdB did last year. (source: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/73084/History/Kevin-De-Bruyne)

I'm not a huge KdB fan, but there's no denying he's becoming (if he isn't already) a very big name, not in the premier league but internationally. I'd take him over Oscar, yes, in a heartbeat. But that ship has sailed. Does that sadden me? No, not really.

[The Skipper 20,593]

I still see him as a player who shines against small teams and disappears against big or decent ones. This thread went literally 2 weeks without any post when I prompted it. I knew the moment he smashed an almighty team like Sunderland it would come to life again. As I said, it's enough to shine against small teams. Thing is people say a lot about how our current team is awful, but City with their great team, is rallying after Leicester and Arsenal. Even if Pellegrini is a moron, the quality of the team alone should have them carrying away with the title. But they didn't exactly show a lot against big or decent teams have they?

On the other hand, I do admit I'm not looking forward to them having Guardiola though.

You need flat track bullies in your team, honestly.

[The Skipper 20,593]

No, neither are what we need - my point is that we will not win more with KdB than we do with Oscar now because it will just add to the same problem; small game players. Fabregas is a small game player, but in 14/15 we had enough big game players to balance it out. It seems Drogba made the difference. Look at that City team now; most are small game players which is why they rely on Aguero and Toure to fire, and if both do not then they don't win.

I have an agenda against KdB? No, I've just had enough of people saying he would solve our problems when he would not. He would exacerbate them, yesterday against Watford we had to send on Mikel to shore up the midfield even with Oscar in there. We need an upgrade on Oscar but the answer is certainly not KdB and certainly not Mata; we need a CM like Pogba and that's the end of it, and only then should we consider another #10 - but it's more likely Hazard would slot in there.

You're not thinking in terms of an overall impact of the team, you're thinking on an individual basis. KdB has quality, I'm not denying that but he won't work in a team with Fabregas and Hazard in there. We would literally become an embodiment of Arsenal.

Why do we need a CM like Pogba? Elaborate how KDB wouldn't be an upgrade on Oscar either...

[positivefootball 195]

The guy did get a shot here but he wanted more. That's fair enough and José accommodated that wish by allowing him to leave.

Yes it would be lovely to have kept him and hindsight is 20/20 for those wishing to rake over past mistakes but the interesting discussion is surely on how we learn from this going forward.

The individual cult is quite scary I must say.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Why do we need a CM like Pogba? Elaborate how KDB wouldn't be an upgrade on Oscar either...

Because we're getting shot in midfield, that's why we need a proper CM. Could do with an upgrade on Matic too, but that is a different topic. KdB will not be an upgrade on Oscar because our midfield will be even more open than before and we will concede even more goals.

Fabregas, Hazard and KdB cannot exist in the same team together without equal defending - to make our system work currently we have to deploy orthodox fullbacks and at times 2 holding midfielders, with yet another non defending player we will need to compensate further. I'm adamant that it won't work unless he comes here and proves me wrong.

[lucio 5,418]

Because we're getting shot in midfield, that's why we need a proper CM. Could do with an upgrade on Matic too, but that is a different topic. KdB will not be an upgrade on Oscar because our midfield will be even more open than before and we will concede even more goals.

Fabregas, Hazard and KdB cannot exist in the same team together without equal defending - to make our system work currently we have to deploy orthodox fullbacks and at times 2 holding midfielders, with yet another non defending player we will need to compensate further. I'm adamant that it won't work unless he comes here and proves me wrong.

don't think matic can be upgraded, just needs a better system and midfield partners. much better with luiz next to him

[CHOULO19 24,332]

You need flat track bullies in your team, honestly.

I think as was proven again last season, flat-track bullies win you leagues, while big game players win you cups.