Kevin de Bruyne

[SykikJV 146]

This is my problem in here, José is full of bs at times, no one can argue with that, but who is to say Kdb isn't full of bs as well?

Just read about what the Wolfsburg manager said about him. This is the kind of player that i really dislike for his attitude (i've never came to question his ability) and that i would never want in my team, just because i want a team, not 11 prime donne.

The Wolfsburg manager NEVER said that about De Bruyne.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Congrats you are the most deluded fan I have ever seen. I have learned to not discuss with you because you will deny everything I'll say, even though IT'S CLEARLY TRUE. So from here on out respond to every Mou related comment you see and defend Jose all you want. I don't give a f anymore...

Whatever mate throw your tantrum somewhere else, please.

Apply your own logic to yourself and it fits just as well as it does on me.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Can't find the link about it anymore sadly. It was about the same as Mourinho said, he doesn't overly apply in training and he's a player that will thrive when everything goes his way.

So, that's already two managers saying the same about him.... going by that, i wouldn't want a guy like that in my team.

Fair enough, he does thrive in a system where he's the focal point. He doesn't seem to do bad surrounded by the likes of Aguero and Silva either, though. He might not train as hard as some, neither does Hazard, but you can be damn sure he'll be up there in the 'most distance covered' ranking every game, which is what ultimately matters, the game.

[Tomo 21,736]

If the Belgium players on our books got half the appreciation the two that have left have, this site would be such a happier place.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Fair enough, he does thrive in a system where he's the focal point. He doesn't seem to do bad surrounded by the likes of Aguero and Silva either, though. He might not train as hard as some, neither does Hazard, but you can be damn sure he'll be up there in the 'most distance covered' ranking every game, which is what ultimately matters, the game.

Yeah, Fabregas would be up there as well.....i don't think it's what ultimately matters, but i guess that is a whole other discussion.

[Fernando 6,497]

If the Belgium players on our books got half the appreciation the two that have left have, this site would be such a happier place.

I think people are just annoyed because Mourinho is sucking the life out of our flair players.

All the defending they have to do they can't express themselves.

Now we have the possibility of maybe Hazard getting ready to leave because he can't defend....

This style of Mourinho is killing us and our attack minded players.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Yeah, Fabregas would be up there as well.....i don't think it's what ultimately matters, but i guess that is a whole other discussion.

I'm not saying most distance covered is what ultimately matters, I was saying that in regard to you implying he's lazy in training. I'm saying what matters is the game, not training.

[Stats 7,060]

If the Belgium players on our books got half the appreciation the two that have left have, this site would be such a happier place.

Hazard is loved by everyone here. Even now there are people full of support on him during quite a difficult spell for him. Last season, majority of the forum I can say were in awe of Hazard and we made clear who we thought should be the POTY. Hazard and Courtois are very much appreciated over here. But right now he is not at the top of the game and KDB had made an instant impact so it is no surprise people are giving KDB credit.

[Coop 114]

Can't find the link about it anymore sadly. It was about the same as Mourinho said, he doesn't overly apply in training and he's a player that will thrive when everything goes his way.

So, that's already two managers saying the same about him.... going by that, i wouldn't want a guy like that in my team.

There is a reason you can't find it anymore...

[didierforever 7,349]

I'll make just an example to you, because i think you know it is twisted just to prove your point:

Torres replacement was in fact Remy, Remy is not lighting the world on fire, but is miles better than Torres.

Cesc, while being useless now (i don't like him and he should be nowehre near Chelsea if you ask me) was brought in to do a job, and last season he did brilliantly, so that shouldn't be considered as a massive mistake, the list goes on, deduce the rest for yourself.

As i've said, try to be more respectful in the future, every word you post is saturated with disrespect, i'll leave the rest to you, as something thought by oneself is way more valuable than just being told how to do it.

what? we had 3 strikers. torres, etoo and ba. ba was the definite 3rd striker. etoo was the short term, fill the gap solution. torres was our 1st/2nd striker. DD replaced etoo as the short term solution, remy as the cheap option 3rd striker (exact to BA) and costa as the no.1. so please stop trying to deduce things which most of the people already know.

cesc is a MASSIVE MISTAKE. he is the definition of a mistake. just like RVP. brought in to do a job in a year. and now nothing but a liability. we could have got rakitic, instead we got cesc. and now we are getting screwed again and again and again. just like united did with RVP. so yes, he is a MASSIVE MISTAKE.

sorry, but i am not going to take life lessons on TC. if you have a problem, stop quoting me, cos i did not quote you. or you can report me and let the mods decide if i did something wrong.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

what? we had 3 strikers. torres, etoo and ba. ba was the definite 3rd striker. etoo was the short term, fill the gap solution. torres was our 1st/2nd striker. DD replaced etoo as the short term solution, remy as the cheap option 3rd striker (exact to BA) and costa as the no.1. so please stop trying to deduce things which most of the people already know.

cesc is a MASSIVE MISTAKE. he is the definition of a mistake. just like RVP. brought in to do a job in a year. and now nothing but a liability. we could have got rakitic, instead we got cesc. and now we are getting screwed again and again and again. just like united did with RVP. so yes, he is a MASSIVE MISTAKE.

sorry, but i am not going to take life lessons on TC. if you have a problem, stop quoting me, cos i did not quote you. or you can report me and let the mods decide if i did something wrong.

Not really....

Loic Remy: Chelsea complete £10.5m signing of QPR striker 31 August 2014 Last updated at 15:54 GMT

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28994304

Fernando Torres: AC Milan seal loan deal for Chelsea striker 31 August 2014 Last updated at 16:42 GMT

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28991464

Up until then we had, Costa-Torres-Drogba. Before Costa, we didn't really have a 1st option striker, one could argue that Costa replaced both Lukaku and Torres, or that Remy replaced both Lukaku and Torres, or that the club's plans were different from having Costa-Remy-Drogba, that we can't know.

Now i'll probably stop answering to you, because i believe this is largely off topic, you can keep quoting until tomorrow in your usual, disrespectful, unorganized manner.

[didierforever 7,349]

Not really....

Loic Remy: Chelsea complete £10.5m signing of QPR striker 31 August 2014 Last updated at 15:54 GMT

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28994304

Fernando Torres: AC Milan seal loan deal for Chelsea striker 31 August 2014 Last updated at 16:42 GMT

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28991464

Up until then we had, Costa-Torres-Drogba. Before Costa, we didn't really have a 1st option striker, one could argue that Costa replaced both Lukaku and Torres, or that Remy replaced both Lukaku and Torres, or that the club's plans were different from having Costa-Remy-Drogba, that we can't know.

Now i'll probably stop answering to you, because i believe this is largely off topic, you can keep quoting until tomorrow in your usual, disrespectful, unorganized manner.

there is more than one way to "replace" a player. you are going by day mapping. i am going through the squad roles and the similarity in traits.

2013/14 - torres (main striker/2nd striker), etoo (short gap), ba (3rd striker)

2014/15 - costa (main striker), DD (short gap), remy (2nd/3rd striker)

2015/16 - costa(main striker), falcao (short gap), remy (2nd/3rd striker).

a replacement is more on the traits than simply by the date at which they are bought and hence the comparison between remy and ba.

on the whole, when jose came here we had lukaku, torres, ba as our options, currently we have costa, falcao, remy.

lukaku is going to bite us in the ass just like KDB did, ba and remy are very much similar so are falcao and torres. hence why i said, costa was the only deal in strikers which can be classified as a "good deal". get the gist?

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

there is more than one way to "replace" a player. you are going by day mapping. i am going through the squad roles and the similarity in traits.

2013/14 - torres (main striker/2nd striker), etoo (short gap), ba (3rd striker)

2014/15 - costa (main striker), DD (short gap), remy (2nd/3rd striker)

2015/16 - costa(main striker), falcao (short gap), remy (2nd/3rd striker).

a replacement is more on the traits than simply by the date at which they are bought and hence the comparison between remy and ba.

on the whole, when jose came here we had lukaku, torres, ba as our options, currently we have costa, falcao, remy.

lukaku is going to bite us in the ass just like KDB did, ba and remy are very much similar so are falcao and torres. hence why i said, costa was the only deal in strikers which can be classified as a "good deal". get the gist?

now explain how schurrle replaced malouda. comeon, go ahead. i would love to hear how malouda, a reserve player for a year, got replaced by a 18mil pound schurrle.

All right now i'll stop seriously, go on and "debate" why goats were cows.

[didierforever 7,349]

now explain how schurrle replaced malouda. comeon, go ahead. i would love to hear how malouda, a reserve player for a year, got replaced by a 18mil pound schurrle.

All right now i'll stop seriously, go on and "debate" why goats were cows.

huh?

what?

i mean

our 6 AMs for 2012-13 were hazard-mata-oscar with marin, moses, yossi/piazon. our 6AMs for 13/14 were hazard-mata-oscar with willian, schurrle, kdb.

where the holy shit does malouda even come into picture?

meh, dude, forget it.

i mean seriously, u will be better off debating why goats were cows.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

huh?

what?

i mean

our 6 AMs for 2012-13 were hazard-mata-oscar with marin, moses, yossi/piazon. our 6AMs for 13/14 were hazard-mata-oscar with willian, schurrle, kdb.

where the holy shit does malouda even come into picture?

meh, dude, forget it.

i mean seriously, u will be better off debating why goats were cows.

a replacement is more on the traits than simply by the date at which they are bought and hence the comparison between remy and ba.

[marketing media pet 27]

i stopped reading at "malouda out". he was out in 2012. jose came to chelsea in 2013. but keep it up.

there's no point arguing with mou's whore

[Essien19 1,415]

LOL, oh dear... http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/clubs/club=52914/squad/index.html

he was not in our europa league squad or CL squad or PL squad since JAN.

so, jose now replaced a reserve player by a 18million schurrle? a player who played a grand total of (u guessed it right), 0 minutes for CFC in the 2012-13 season. and yet could not win the league an infact went trophyless. SHAME...

jose transfers dealing since he came here compared to 2012/13 squad which was one of the worst chelsea squads in the roman era.

moses -> willian (brilliant)

marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)

mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)

luiz -> zouma (decent dealing)

paulo ferreira -> x,y,z youth player (no output)

bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

romeu -> matic (the best dealing without a shred of doubt)

ba -> remy (quite the same)

torres -> costa (anyone would have been an upgrade. but one of his best dealings after willian and matic)

so at max, 3 deals which can be termed as good and above, 3 changes which were average and 6 MASSIVE MISTAKES. not hard to see how poor his dealings have been

"piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)"

Piazon is simply not good enough, i like the bloke, but he can't cut it here.

Schurrle was a good deal, aspiring prospect who showed potential and put it behind against the likes of City and PSG.

At some point he regressed and the club cut their losses at the right time, take a look at his current time in Wolfsburg, he is doing jack shit, sadly.

A lot of people, including myself, had their hopes up by the thought of Juan Cuadrado joining Chelsea.

This dude failed miserably, way too often he got dispossessed, is he able to win one freakin' duel let alone an aerial one?!

I didn't see that one coming, therefore i don't be harsh on the board and Mourinho.

I don't watch the italian league that much, but in the UCL he showed some great piece of skill against Manchester City, i think we can get back most of the money.

Traore wasn't expensive and showed good skill during his loan spell, exciting prospect, nothing wrong by giving him chances to redeem himself.

At the end of the day, i see us in the blank, not in the red, but only the future will tell.

mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

Mata played utter dog shit under Jose, he wasn't the same player anymore, for that money, i'll do it all fuckin' day.

Once again, we bought with Salah one hell of a talent, he showed his skill-set in the UCL.

He didn't graduate at Chelsea, but because of his successful loan spells, big buckets will come in.

Pedro is a proven player, the people in charge wanted someone with experience, the house is full of gifted young talents; Traore, Kenedy, Musonda and the list continues.

At the end of the day we are in credit, that's not a bad thing.

Especially when a player like Pedro suits the style of play a lot more than Mata, who is better as a number 10 than as a winger.

bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

Bertrand should have played more, but that's not alone Joses fault, for example ask Di Matteo.

Who is responsible for the purchase of Filipe Luis?

Last season, Azpilicueta und Ivanovic played their part and helped to deliver the goods, Luis didn't want to be here anymore, so it was his decision to leave.

Did Jose really wanted to buy Baba?

At the start of the season he had fitness problems, now we have seen problems with his defensive work, yes he is young and nervous, but mistakes happen.

I think he will come good, the jury still is out, no need to make the harsh judgement call today.

marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)

The so called "german messi" is better off Chelsea.

The case Kevin De Bruyne could have been handled differently, the discussion is endless, i acknowledge that a mistake has been made, but people have to get over it, he won't come back.

After every goal the discussion will rise again, fun times are ahead of us, lol.

Kenedy has impressed me since his game against Barcelona and his antics against Suarez, he is going to play his part at Chelsea and he still is only 19 years of age.

Getting him is not a massive mistake, even if De Bruyne isn't around here anymore.

I don't mean you didierforever, but if some gfs of yours break up with you, you still moan all the time?!

Not healthy, but not my life!

lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)

Lukaku didn't want the competition and against Bayern Munich he failed with the penalty.

He wasn't up for the job, he is like the spoiled kid who can't wait, he wants it now and that's not happening at Chelsea.

Chelsea got ~30 mio., that money was a good down payment for Diego Costa, for me it has been good business.

The team lacked leaders; Eto'o and Drogba are big personalitys, they dominante the dressing room and give good suggestions to the younger boys.

Yes, Falcao seems like a deterioration, but he is only the number 3 and not so expensive.

Back in the day a german friend of mine preferred Benteke over Falcao, but that guy would have been really expensive.

I can still live with having Falcao around the house for one year.

His goal in the league wasn't that bad imo.

lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)

Lampard in his prime, yes, but not during his recent years at Chelsea, his consistency wasn't there anymore.

Year after year the midfield got overran.

Cesc is playing badly, but last season he was an integral part to the campaign, "massive mistake" seems a bit harsh to me.

Yes, Rakitic would have been better, we tried to get Modric, but we failed, so i take Cesc, without Cesc it could be worse...

ba -> remy (quite the same)

Remy has been a massive signing, scoring goals for fun, not moaning because of sitting on the bench and he can play more than one position.

For me, he is a much better fit than Ba.

Chelsea often follows the philosophy sell one and then buy a new one.

Mourinho himself acknowledged, that he would have kept some the players, but that wasn't possible.

I think the business hasn't been that bad, some decisions could have been handled differently, but overall the improvement is clear as daylight, the judgment day is not today or tomorrow,

being 6 points behind a UCL spot is not the end of world, not after 9th matchdays, lol.

[didierforever 7,349]

a replacement is more on the traits than simply by the date at which they are bought and hence the comparison between remy and ba.

so malouda the reserve player who should barely even be counted as a chelsea player and had a grand total of 0 minutes played in the whole season (12-13) is similar on traits to schurrle?

ok, so we replaced sheva with falcao?