silviupastean 135 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 De Bruyne's mother was born in Ealing, West London, making him eligible to play for England, although he instead opted to play for the country in which he was born (wiki)didnțt know that until now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The funny thing is lets reverse roles here and put Oscar in the Bremen team playing in his favoured central position (like we see him do for Brazil) and then KDB at Chelsea on the wing for the majority of games, playing twice a week in his debut season in English football against teams who park the bus against us like over half of the premiership teams do. I don't think you'd be saying KDB is better. Oscar is playing at a much higher standard and is afforded much less space than KDB gets at Bremen. At the end of the day they are both special talents, but it makes me cringe how some overrate KDB so much Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 and then KDB at Chelsea on the wing for the majority of games, playing twice a week in his debut season in English football against teams who park the bus against us like over half of the premiership teams do. I don't think you'd be saying KDB is better. I'm only speaking for myself but I think I would. He's great on the wing. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I'm only speaking for myself but I think I would. He's great on the wing. Well when we Rdm played him on the wing in pre-season, he complained to the press about having to play there. And for me he isn't 'great on the wing' he's similar to Oscar. Can look great playing there in one game, then go missing in the next game he plays there. Both much prefer that central role and the only difference is KDB has been afforded much more opportunities to play centrally and thus shine more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The funny thing is lets reverse roles here and put Oscar in the Bremen team playing in his favoured central position (like we see him do for Brazil) and then KDB at Chelsea on the wing for the majority of games, playing twice a week in his debut season in English football against teams who park the bus against us like over half of the premiership teams do. I don't think you'd be saying KDB is better. Oscar is playing at a much higher standard and is afforded much less space than KDB gets at Bremen. At the end of the day they are both special talents, but it makes me cringe how some overrate KDB so muchSaying KDB's game is better at this point in time than Oscar's is not overrating, it's how it is. Nearly everyone on this board was disappointed with Oscar's contribution for most of the season while KDB has performed consistently in the Bundesliga in a shitty side, gaining massive interest from some of the best German sides.I don't understand what makes it so cringeworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Saying KDB's game is better at this point in time than Oscar's is not overrating, it's how it is. Nearly everyone on this board was disappointed with Oscar's contribution for most of the season while KDB has performed consistently in the Bundesliga in a shitty side, gaining massive interest from some of the best German sides.I don't understand what makes it so cringeworthy.The only people who were dissapointed with Oscar's contribution this season were the clueless brats who didn't take into consideration the fact that Oscar at the age of 21 has been playing constant football over the past two seasons without a break. 79 appearances for club and country I think. Now if you do consider that fact and look at the season he has had for us, then how can anyone criticise the impact he has made in his first season. I and many fans haven't doubted Oscar for a second. Even when he has played badly because he has dealt with not only the pressure of settling into a new country and club but also an Olympic summer and manic fixture list for us in the process, all done extremely well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The only people who were dissapointed with Oscar's contribution this season were the clueless brats who didn't take into consideration the fact that Oscar at the age of 21 has been playing constant football over the past two seasons without a break. Now if you do consider that fact and look at the season he has had for us, then how can anyone criticise the impact he has made in his first season. I and many fans haven't doubted Oscar for a second. Even when he has played badly because he has dealt with not only the pressure of settling into a new country and club but also an Olympic summer and manic fixture list for us in the process, all done extremely well.Exactly, I rate Oscar as well. I feel he has done well concerning the circumstances. I was just wondering why saying KDB's performances outshining Oscar's automatically means overrating KDB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Exactly, I rate Oscar as well. I feel he has done well concerning the circumstances. I was just wondering why saying KDB's performances outshining Oscar's automatically means overrating KDB.I wouldn't say it's overrating KDB but unfairly comparing Oscar's performances in the Prem to KDB's in the Budesliga. They play in very differen't ways and if they had both been playing in the same squad this season then I think it is only then you can compare who was the more effective player in specific roles. Considering they have played out their season's in two different leagues, in two completley different teams in terms of overall skill and performance then it does come across as persumptuous and vague to say KDB's performances have outshone Oscar's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 @wecker you cant compare oscar to de bruyne. oscar played way more games in a more difficult league. also oscar played on the wing, while de bryune played in his preferred position in the centre. both are great talents, but i dont see how anybody can say "hey kdb played good for bremen, he is btter than oscar!". Oscar played VERY GOOD if you think about how many matches he played (without proper pre-season) and his 1st season being here. dont disrespect other players of our club, just because you like a belgian player (which i can understand..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 @wecker you cant compare oscar to de bruyne. oscar played way more games in a more difficult league. also oscar played on the wing, while de bryune played in his preferred position in the centre. both are great talents, but i dont see how anybody can say "hey kdb played good for bremen, he is btter than oscar!". Oscar played VERY GOOD if you think about how many matches he played (without proper pre-season) and his 1st season being here. dont disrespect other players of our club, just because you like a belgian player (which i can understand..)C'mon I'm not disrespecting Oscar, in my opinion KDB's all round game is better, you don't have to agree, it's an opinion. Let's hope we get to see them in the same team next season. JDY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 De Bruyne has been one of the stars of the WC qualifying campaign for Belgium thus far. He had a poor game in the last game v. Macedonia but he's been the 2nd best player on the team besides Courtois. Hazard appears to be finally coming to life for the national team and of course the team has loads of talent everywhere save for the fullback positions specifically the right.He's going to be worth crazy money in a couple of years barring injury but he impacts the game differently then Hazard, Mata, etc. He's basically a young Paul Scholes, but with a greater goal scoring touch. If for some reason he leaves Chelsea he'll end up at Barca/Madrid/Bayern in a few years.I love Hazard and he's got the flair to be one of the greats but Dr Bruyne has capability to a great in much more understated way similar to how Iniesta is so valuable but understated to Messi Pacquiao and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Hopefully Chelsea bring him on the pre-season tour of Asia so Jose can see how good he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 hes not better than oscar and hes certainly not better than hazardKDB and Oscar are at the same level for me. They both start for their international teams, at a similar age. Very good achievement considering their respective nationalities. KDB this season has 10 goals and 11 assists in 34 games Oscar has 12 goals and 12 assists in 63 games. DDA and Goemaere 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 if we play him as a RW, he will be really fast on the bench. lacks pace and speed for RW position. and also isnt a big dribbler neither. de bruyne as a RW is a complete wasteschweinstiger was mostly mediocre as a RW...in the centre he is 100 times better.He performs well on the right for Belgium, and it is also where he began his career for Genk. He does seem best centrally but his crossing is great, he's two footed and is just a very good footballer..I think he'd be fine on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucienDillonCFC 77 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Would like to see KDB back at chelsea this coming season, I think he will add something to the team, And under the management of mourinho could flourish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 @wecker you cant compare oscar to de bruyne. oscar played way more games in a more difficult league. also oscar played on the wing, while de bryune played in his preferred position in the centre. both are great talents, but i dont see how anybody can say "hey kdb played good for bremen, he is btter than oscar!". Oscar played VERY GOOD if you think about how many matches he played (without proper pre-season) and his 1st season being here. dont disrespect other players of our club, just because you like a belgian player (which i can understand..)Then on the other hand people will say how a player will look better playing with better players to suit their arguement, I think there's many variables that come with the different stature of teams they both play in, some that are positive and negative. Oscar under RDM had a free role in our fluid front three with Mata and Hazard don't forget, and KDB has more experience playing on the wing then Oscar as well. As I said above, he started his career at Genk as a winger. He also starts for Belgium as a winger. I don't think there's much between them for me, based on this season. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsealukas23 79 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 LucienDillonCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucienDillonCFC 77 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Sick video!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moros 86 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 @wecker you cant compare oscar to de bruyne. oscar played way more games in a more difficult league.Well there's a problem, you think the English Premier League is so much better then the Bundesliga. If for one only see the English one spending more money, but that's it. Germany on the other hand has a much larger pool of quality home grown players to help that difference for one. Also there was only one good and consistent opponent in England last year and that was man utd. Bayern and Dortmund would have ended first and secon the BPL, Man utd would have battled Leverkussen for third. And do you rate teams as Arsenal or Tottenham so much higher than Shalke? I don't.The Bundesliga has been and still is growing as competition, while I haven't seen the same in England. More amazing is how they are doing that in a financially sound way and within a financially sound economy. Germany is the future, well for a few years it will be.Edit: Or you can rightly ignore me as my spelling and grammar shows that I obviously had enough to drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,504 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Then on the other hand people will say how a player will look better playing with better players to suit their arguement, I think there's many variables that come with the different stature of teams they both play in, some that are positive and negative. Oscar under RDM had a free role in our fluid front three with Mata and Hazard don't forget, and KDB has more experience playing on the wing then Oscar as well. As I said above, he started his career at Genk as a winger. He also starts for Belgium as a winger. I don't think there's much between them for me, based on this season.I won't compare Oscar to De Bruyne...cause they are both gifted midfielders with high potential. I just think De Bruyne is better suited for the RW role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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