coolhead23 1,147 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'm in agreement. Mata and De Bruyne might have gone for good money, but they shouldn't have been sold IMO. They are both better than our current AMF options.Having said that, there's a reason why Mourinho keeps playing Oscar and Willan over everyone else.Well ... Million dollar question! Have no response to that one, mate ... I like Oscar, there are very few AMC with such versatility but then Jose could easily had someone like KDB/Mata for rotation. It not only could have provided us with rotation but a different dynamic when we play with teams who will park. As we stand with Oscar not doing well, we will go into the market for a ready player by spending money. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Well ... Million dollar question! Have no response to that one, mate ... I like Oscar, there are very few AMC with such versatility but then Jose could easily had someone like KDB/Mata for rotation. It not only could have provided us with rotation but a different dynamic when we play with teams who will park. As we stand with Oscar not doing well, we will go into the market for a ready player by spending money. I hope that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 KDB to Munich is complete bs, unless Pep is gone.Why ? They say in papers that KdB would be replacement for Ribery not for Guardiola zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 My theory is actually that Mourinho is a ginger racist. How else to explain the exits of De Bruyne & Schürrle??Mourinho only wants latino's (Costa, Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard by the looks) & blacks (Willian, Drogba, Remy, Ramires, Zouma, Mikel ...)It's the only explanation!!(this is a joke of course, before I get banned from this forum)(OR ISN'T IT??)(it is..)Cesc is European... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 What ? You mean from last great Dortmund team ?They sold 4 important players from that team : Sahin, Kagawa, Goetze and Lewandowski.Goetze and Lewandowski are doing fine. No slump in form but usual self most of the time.Sahin was injured when Real bought him. He was injured and he's done his ligament if I remember correctly. Then he played here and there but picked up injury now and then. It was also difficult for him because there was no position for him in Real, under Mourinho Khedira had cemented place and as you know Mourinho doesn't rotate.So basically that leaves us with Kagawa. That's a mystery for me but he was a flop, yeah.I don't count players like Barrios, Perisic, Schieber and all because they weren't stars of Dortmund rather squad players.So your statement is incorrect.Yes but they stayed in Bundesliga.Has anyone that left Bundesliga to Spain or England done that well recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 KDB is just another example of the chaos and inefficiency Mourinho brings with him to every team he's managed.His trophy cabinet says otherwise.I'd rather have Jose than KDB chillerz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yes but they stayed in Bundesliga.Has anyone that left Bundesliga to Spain or England done that well recently?Very recently, no. But I can't remember if someone big in Germany moved abroad. Ter Stegen ? He's doing fine I guess.I don't think that's an issue if you want to point out that some players only perform in Germany not somewhere else. We don't have many examples to judge. There's Kagawa but there's Vidal also. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why ? They say in papers that KdB would be replacement for Ribery not for Guardiola The same papers also said Ivan was the main target for Munich....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It is ... But not in Jose's world!!! If attack is the best form of defence why do Real have such a shit record vs Atletico this season and why have we been seeing off those type of teams for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yes but they stayed in Bundesliga.Has anyone that left Bundesliga to Spain or England done that well recently?Thinking about the bigger names, I can think of Ozil, Mertesacker, Khedira, Carvajal, Kroos, Dzeko, Can, Mandzukic, Ter Stegen (though Barca have that weird rotation). Bayern pick up most of the stand out players though. And the PL is the only league that makes a lot of big money foreign transfers (Real, Barca and PSG being the exception in their own leagues). Other leagues dealing with a lot more home grown players and players bought at a very young age.I'm not sure if I understand your point though. So many stars of football were puchased from Ligue 1, Primeira Liga, Eredivisie and South American leagues. Does that say something about the quality of those leagues? And it's not like all PL players do very well when they leave, bar the extremely talented bought for a lot of money of course. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thinking about the bigger names, I can think of Ozil, Mertesacker, Khedira, Carvajal, Kroos, Dzeko, Can, Mandzukic, Ter Stegen (though Barca have that weird rotation). Bayern pick up most of the stand out players though. And the PL is the only league that makes a lot of big money foreign transfers (Real, Barca and PSG being the exception in their own leagues). Other leagues dealing with a lot more home grown players and players bought at a very young age.I'm not sure if I understand your point though. So many stars of football were puchased from Ligue 1, Primeira Liga, Eredivisie and South American leagues. Does that say something about the quality of those leagues? And it's not like all PL players do very well when they leave, bar the extremely talented bought for a lot of money of course.No you are right. I guess I was blindsided by Dortmund and how not so great their players came out after they join another foreign team.Well that being said just read this about KDB on ESPN: Wolfsburg's Kevin De Bruyne open to Chelsea return - sources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'd be all for that. Especially if we hand Juventus a 15-20 million Oscar. Dream come true to get KDB for only 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 27, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 27, 2015 Cesc ~> KDB ~> Hazard... What could've been. stroey, Ainsley Harriott, Reddish-Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Cesc ~> KDB ~> Hazard... What could've been.Indeed. If that rumour holds any value ... I would welcome him back in a beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,916 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Wonder how much he'd even cost now if we wanted him back. We seem to have a great relationship with Wolfsburg so I'm not sure it would be THAT difficult to get him back if we truly wanted him. No chance of it happening though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If attack is the best form of defence why do Real have such a shit record vs Atletico this season and why have we been seeing off those type of teams for years?So based on one season, attack is not the best form of defence??? Why are Madrid not doing good? because they arent playing as a team. Records are taking priorities over team. Talking about examples, Man United is the best example of attacking football, not just for one season ... they have won record titles by playing attacking football. Seeing off those types of teams by playing defensive was a good 3 years back when we won the CL ... The title before that was under Ancelotti when we played aggressive football. Jose philosophy is to be compact and defensive (most of the time) which he is a master at, he has won titles based on it. He is probably the only exception to the system in modern day football. But that doesnt change the fact that attack will keep the opposition on the back foot. Again that my opinion. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If attack is the best form of defence why do Real have such a shit record vs Atletico this season and why have we been seeing off those type of teams for years?YOU mean we always beat them ??? you are now such an apologist for Jose ..you arent worth reading any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yeah, we will offer €30M and Wolfsburg will agree. That will definitely happen. Some people here live in dream worlds and need to come of their cloud. The double of €30M won't even be enough to buy him this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yeah, we will offer €30M and Wolfsburg will agree. That will definitely happen. Some people here live in dream worlds and need to come of their cloud. The double of €30M won't even be enough to buy him this summer.You must remember tho KDB will be longing to return and play again for "the special one " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 So based on one season, attack is not the best form of defence??? Why are Madrid not doing good? because they arent playing as a team. Records are taking priorities over team. Talking about examples, Man United is the best example of attacking football, not just for one season ... they have won record titles by playing attacking football. Seeing off those types of teams by playing defensive was a good 3 years back when we won the CL ... The title before that was under Ancelotti when we played aggressive football. Jose philosophy is to be compact and defensive (most of the time) which he is a master at, he has won titles based on it. He is probably the only exception to the system in modern day football. But that doesnt change the fact that attack will keep the opposition on the back foot. Again that my opinion.Madrid are too attacking, the main point is solid counter attacking teams (Atletico) will beat attack based teams like Madrid more often than not.And I wasn't talking about the CL win, I was more on about few years before that, look at how Ancelotti approached our games against Arsenal or how Hiddink nullified Barca by being solid and hitting them on the counter.Teams who think fuck it lets attack at all costs don't get anywhere in the grand scheme of things.Also Real aren't doing good for their standards, they spent millions and still remain in Barcelonas shadow.And you cite United, Fergie was also quite adaptable especially in his later years, he often "parked the bus" in big games in order to get the result, he did so at the Nou Camp in 2008 with arguably his best ever team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.