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3 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

Unfortunately for him if any Chelsea fan had to choose between John Terry and him JT would win every time. He's alright but he's nothing special and could be easily replaced by moving Iva into a back up CB role for example.

Yes, but John Terry is 35 and next season should not be starting regularly. Cahill might have lost his place but it is vital we keep him on board.

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I don't mean to be cruel or disrespectful to Cahill in any way, but if this is actually true, I'd regard it as very good news. 

This is nothing against Gary himself who has been an excellent servant to the club and has helped us win a lot in the past four years, but we NEED to sign a top center half in the summer; someone who can partner Zouma and become a long term solution. Cahill leaving would ensure the club would go out and do just that instead of trying to rely on a JT on the decline or Cahill himself who just isn't good enough to be first choice.

That said, his departure would leave us with a problem to solve regarding the homegrown quota and we might be forced to do something radical like, god forbid, actually give playing time to some of our youth products.. 

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No disrespect, but how is he still playing for us? With the amount of childish mistakes he makes and overall how poor he is defensively he would have difficulty finding a starting spot in a lot of teams in the league. Chelsea can and should do better than him as a back-up option.

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4 hours ago, Henrique said:

Cahill should be happy to be playing for a club like Chelsea at this point of his career. I don't understand why average players leave top clubs  because they feel they are not playing as much as they should. Think about Ferreira and Mikel that stayed as Chelsea players despite of being no more than squad players for most part of their club careers. 
 

Not many national teams would consistently select squad players - Nigeria and Portugal are small enough that they do, but England would be a bit more reluctant in doing so, esp CB.

I completely understand he doesn't want to lose his NT spot, but on the same token cannot understand why he's there to be begin with. 

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Dont know how much truth in this 1,but not much of the dumbass media has mentioned he had a injury a while back and missed afew games?! We need another world class CB&CM not sell,so for me  Cahill stays and we strengthen not weaken  areas were we are shy ffs this Cfc board are cfucking clueless

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This is like when a guy pretends to break up with his girlfriend to see how much she really cares, to then find out she doesn't actually give a shit, and the breakup turns real. You'll be downgrading Gary.

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It makes no sense at all to be thinking of getting "rid" of Cahill, we only really have Cahill,Terry,Zouma,Ivan ffs,as our CB's ,and a lack of home growns makes him even more invaluable to the squad,don't worry he will get enough games 4 sure!

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I can understand him in demanding more playing time. With Euro 16 knocking on the door and with the competition for the CB's spot in the England team the best for him would be to play almost every match. Something which he finds hard here. The problem is that we cannot let him leave as we are still in CL and FA. We can't have only young Zouma and old Terry till the end of the season. What will make sense to me will be to buy or loan new RB, put Ivanovic in Cahill's role and loan Gary till the end of the season. Thats maybe a win-win situation for both Gary and the club.

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21 hours ago, Stats said:

Yes, but John Terry is 35 and next season should not be starting regularly. Cahill might have lost his place but it is vital we keep him on board.

The obsession with age is beyond me. JT knows exactly how to handle being slow (he's done it for the last 16 years) so I think it's nearly irrelevant now.

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3 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

The obsession with age is beyond me. JT knows exactly how to handle being slow (he's done it for the last 16 years) so I think it's nearly irrelevant now.

Well you have another thing coming if you think Terry will not get worse with age and can carry playing every game next season because he can't. This season he had made a lot more mistakes albeit he has been more solid in recent games. Also Cahill is English as well so vital we keep him and still good to have as a squad player.

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8 minutes ago, Stats said:

Well you have another thing coming if you think Terry will not get worse with age and can carry playing every game next season because he can't. This season he had made a lot more mistakes albeit he has been more solid in recent games. Also Cahill is English as well so vital we keep him and still good to have as a squad player.

Yeah but squad players all he should be, I can't believe it's only Hiddink out of all the managers he's had here has got the memo.

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14 minutes ago, Stats said:

Well you have another thing coming if you think Terry will not get worse with age and can carry playing every game next season because he can't. This season he had made a lot more mistakes albeit he has been more solid in recent games. Also Cahill is English as well so vital we keep him and still good to have as a squad player.

To a point, I beg to differ.

 

Cahill is not an intelligent CB and therefore will not age well at all - he's slow now and he's seen as average. In my opinion he will not be playing at the top level within two years.

 

I'd take JT every day of the week. Also, JT's marshalling makes Zouma look much better in my opinion, and conversely Zz's pace makes JT look much better. In the short term our CB situation is fine. Just wait for Christensen to be refined a little more and bring him back when Terry finally reaches EOL.

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3 hours ago, Tomo said:

Yeah but squad players all he should be, I can't believe it's only Hiddink out of all the managers he's had here has got the memo.

Well I don't think he is world class but I am actually a big fan of his although I do reckon he has the odd error prone in him, I never get the panic feeling when he is in our team. I hope and assume we get a CB in the summer but I hope Cahill is here because I feel he is a useful player for the squad. I think a lot of big teams would take him, albeit a squad player role but I still think he has a lot of qualities.

3 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

To a point, I beg to differ.

 

Cahill is not an intelligent CB and therefore will not age well at all - he's slow now and he's seen as average. In my opinion he will not be playing at the top level within two years.

 

I'd take JT every day of the week. Also, JT's marshalling makes Zouma look much better in my opinion, and conversely Zz's pace makes JT look much better. In the short term our CB situation is fine. Just wait for Christensen to be refined a little more and bring him back when Terry finally reaches EOL.

Well that is where I differ. Because I think he reads the game quite well and for a CB he is not very slow, not very fast. He is in between. Yeah, you are right about Zouma. He probably is better with Terry in the team and that is because Terry is a better leader and organiser. However Zouma and Cahill did well against Arsenal tbh. And FWIW I am quite positive that Cahill will be here for the next few years.

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Hiddink on Cahill...

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chelsea-press-conference-live-alexandre-10807724

“I talked to him a few days ago about the situation, which I like to do always with key players.

“He’s of big importance and will be.”

“He was very open and very clear he wants to stay in this club.

“He’s very happy here but of course not playing gives a bit of frustration.

“There was no hint from his side that he could leave.”

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I don't understand the obvious hate against Cahill. he has been a top defender for us, He and Jt make Chelsea a rock solid foundation. About his mistakes, i haven't seen him make that many and he also has to deal with that intelligent guy at rb

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