radaPT 54 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I see this forum has plenty of Neymar fans, tho i would like to ask them, who seems more reliable? A kid that plays in the Brazillian league and does what he does, or Gotze from Bundesliga, Hazard from the french league?Neymar would cost way more than these two and wouldnt be 100% sucess (he could, but we dont know how he will turn on in England, do you guys really want a new Torres?) Hazard and Gotze are what the kind of player that Chelsea needs, huge potential, they want to suceed in their carrers and low chance of failing compared to what we know from Neymar.Those two already play in Europe and had shown a lot of potential, so they arent as risky as Neymar.Sorry for bad english guys, just wanted to give my opinion :blue scalf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It laughable, it's just beyond laughable Robinho started out just the same, bright talent, emerged early, but was an average prospect once he hit Europe that soon plummeted season after season,Neymar is only delaying the inevitable, stay in the Brazilian league and fill in an over hyped status for the rest of your life, like Pele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 HULK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Now: Hazard > Götze > NeymarFuture: Götze > Hazard >>>>> NeymarDone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 We seem to be still bitter that Neymar didn't sign for us back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 lol comparing neymar to robinhoneymar is still a teenager and already as good or better in most ways to robinhoyou people who think goetze is even on his level are madhazard is better than goetzeneymar better than bothbut as far as who we need, i want eriksen from ajax. plays central, fantastic athlete, very good reader of the game, more well rounded than the other names mentioned. goetze is frail and hazard isn't that good for our squadThe comparision between them is very understandable. They have (Robinho had) similar abilities, pace, dribbles and technique. Robinho was also overhyped when he was young.And maybe this is just me, but I don't trust a man's judgement on a player he can't write the name of (Azpilicueta is an exception!). Götze has immense potential and I have no doubt that he will be world class, I don't see Neymar reaching that level.Hazard not good enough for our squad? Have you seen Hazard play, and have you seen our team play? Hazard would improve our team by miles, bar Mata he has more technical ability than our squad combined.I agree with you on Eriksen though, great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm sorry my friend and no offence intended, but I laughed at that part of your post. Why don't you want Gotze?not that i think he is not a good player or anything.... he is one of the better ones around.... i think he is a bit overhyped.... but he is really young as well. So if we wait for him to develop, someone else signs him, as we miss our chance.Id rather see hulk come on the left wing, while mata replaces lampard in midfield. then you have mata and a DM positions taken up in midfield, leaving one spot, which ramires currently occupies, and he is getting better and better since he came. So benching him will be harsh... and mcheachran needs to become first teamer at some point, and that will never happen if we keep signing more players in his position.that leaves the question that can we even accomodate another top player in our midfield. If we can, then gotze and hulk and maybe hamsik will be great sigings, but i pick hulk over gotze.Basically, in my head, when i said "i dont want him", i basically meant i want us to sign hulk as he will add a whole new dimension to our play, while gotze will be improving a dimension that we already have.... but if we can have both, then bring them in!!i just hope mchechrean gets the chance he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm sorry my friend and no offence intended, but I laughed at that part of your post. Why don't you want Gotze?not that i think he is not a good player or anything.... he is one of the better ones around.... i think he is a bit overhyped.... but he is really young as well. So if we wait for him to develop, someone else signs him, as we miss our chance.Id rather see hulk come on the left wing, while mata replaces lampard in midfield. then you have mata and a DM positions taken up in midfield, leaving one spot, which ramires currently occupies, and he is getting better and better since he came. So benching him will be harsh... and mcheachran needs to become first teamer at some point, and that will never happen if we keep signing more players in his position.that leaves the question that can we even accomodate another top player in our midfield. If we can, then gotze and hulk and maybe hamsik will be great sigings, but i pick hulk over gotze.Basically, in my head, when i said "i dont want him", i basically meant i want us to sign hulk as he will add a whole new dimension to our play, while gotze will be improving a dimension that we already have.... but if we can have both, then bring them in!!i just hope mchechrean gets the chance he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 We seem to be still bitter that Neymar didn't sign for us back then.No, I've never liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm still bitter about Aguero, and soon to be Hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The comparision between them is very understandable. They have (Robinho had) similar abilities, pace, dribbles and technique. Robinho was also overhyped when he was young.And maybe this is just me, but I don't trust a man's judgement on a player he can't write the name of (Azpilicueta is an exception!). Götze has immense potential and I have no doubt that he will be world class, I don't see Neymar reaching that level.Hazard not good enough for our squad? Have you seen Hazard play, and have you seen our team play? Hazard would improve our team by miles, bar Mata he has more technical ability than our squad combined.I agree with you on Eriksen though, great player.hazard is a great player i'm not knocking his quality, but we would do better with other players for the price. i'd much rather us pay twice as much for neymar or even eriksen, given the chance. hazard is so much like mata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I see this forum has plenty of Neymar fans, tho i would like to ask them, who seems more reliable? A kid that plays in the Brazillian league and does what he does, or Gotze from Bundesliga, Hazard from the french league?Neymar would cost way more than these two and wouldnt be 100% sucess (he could, but we dont know how he will turn on in England, do you guys really want a new Torres?) Hazard and Gotze are what the kind of player that Chelsea needs, huge potential, they want to suceed in their carrers and low chance of failing compared to what we know from Neymar.Those two already play in Europe and had shown a lot of potential, so they arent as risky as Neymar.Sorry for bad english guys, just wanted to give my opinion :blue scalf:all players carry major risk to not succeedneymar is a far better player right now and also far younger... he's got more athleticism and skill than gotze or hazard, its not even in dispute really. either way though, we need a winger not a crafty trickster who weighs as much as 1 of my pubic hairs. players like willian and lucas are what we need more than gotze or hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radaPT 54 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 all players carry major risk to not succeedneymar is a far better player right now and also far younger... he's got more athleticism and skill than gotze or hazard, its not even in dispute really.either way though, we need a winger not a crafty trickster who weighs as much as 1 of my pubic hairs. players like willian and lucas are what we need more than gotze or hazardNeymar has more athleticism than the other two? And is he far younger? wtf i never heard about that Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 ANY decent fast winger who can cross accurately ,,,If he can dribble and shoot ,,then FFS buy him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Only all three could save us right now...CechIvanovic - Luiz - Cahill - BertrandRamires - GotzeHazard - Mata © - NeymarSturridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If Roman Abramovich bought another oil factory, sold a yaught, and we sold Torres, I'd say we could get all three of those players...... before anyone asks, I'm a dreamer, not a fortune teller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 If Roman Abramovich bought another oil factory, sold a yaught, and we sold Torres, I'd say we could get all three of those players...... before anyone asks, I'm a dreamer, not a fortune teller!..Or he could use the other £10 Billion he has locked away somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Dont care who we just need more young creative players with lots of potential! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Only all three could save us right now...CechIvanovic - Luiz - Cahill - BertrandRamires - GotzeHazard - Mata © - NeymarSturridgeReplace Ramires with Romeu, For our squad to be proper again, Ramires needs to be the worst midfielder we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot 71 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 For our squad to be proper again, Ramires needs to be the worst midfielder we haveExactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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