🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[Atomiswave 6,120]

12 minutes ago, Jason said:

For the record, I have mentioned/pointed out/complained about Werner being wasted out wide since September. Moreover, it's all good while winning but when we weren't, like the last 2 games, some of the problems with Lampard last season reared their ugly head again and he did nothing about them. I wouldn't have been so critical had he tried to change things but nothing worked and we still lost. Problem was, he didn't try to change or do anything different in the last 2 games.

His subs too, its always like for like

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Remains to be seen if this is true and if it's another muscle injury but otherwise, this pretty reiterates my point above...

 

Ridiculous

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Remains to be seen if this is true and if it's another muscle injury but otherwise, this pretty reiterates my point above...

 

So, it doesn't seem like an injury caused by the free week. Point on hold...for now. 

[Jase 43,479]

By the way, to those who mentioned Marco Rose as a potential replacement for Lampard, his Gladbach side are on a 6-game winless run...

[Milan 17,997]

On 15. 12. 2020 at 10:53 PM, Jason said:

But that's not the official way of comparing? Anyway, not much difference...

Brighton (+2)
Liverpool (=)
West Brom (-2) - compared with Watford
Crystal Palace (=)
Southampton (+1)
Man Utd (+1)
Burnley (=)
Sheffield Utd (+2)
Newcastle (+3)
Spurs (-2)
Leeds (+3) - compared with Bournemouth
Everton (=)
Wolves (-3)

Let's keep this alive.

West Ham (+3)

That makes it +8 in total.

Probably the only positive outcome from today 

[Puliiszola 519]

Ridiculous. 2 points away from 2nd. 6 points from 1st. Just ridiculous. Sack him, burn him, bury him alive. 😂😂😂

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Milan said:

Let's keep this alive.

West Ham (+3)

That makes it +8 in total.

Probably the only positive outcome from today 

Still 1 point worse off than last season.

[Puliiszola 519]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Still 1 point worse off than last season.

Given the fixtures. That's 8 in the +ve

[killer1257 3,282]

Still 1 point worse off than last season.

Last season, we were 14 points behind Liverpool at this stage. Now, only 6 points behind

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[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Lampard didnt inspire confidence today but it still worked out just fine. It was not exactly great to watch and our attacking play was mainly balls hoofed upfield or some really shitty deflections and balloon passes falling our way. Still, we kept our shit together in defense and limited wham to half chances.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, killer1257 said:

Last season, we were 14 points behind Liverpool at this stage. Now, only 6 points behind

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That's only because Liverpool couldn't produce the ridiculous form they showed last season, nothing to do with us. Liverpool won 13 of their first 14 games last season. This season, it's just 9 out of 14.

[Tomo 21,751]

I back him because i do see potential of a top manager despite the greenness but he seriously needs to work on attacking patterns in Cobham.

However progression must be shown from now till the end.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

I back him because i do see potential of a top manager despite the greenness but he seriously needs to work on attacking patterns in Cobham.

However progression must be shown from now till the end.

Doesn't it feel like we're being managed by Big Sam at times? 

[killer1257 3,282]

People again expect too much. RJ, Chilli and Ziyech injured. Key players injured and Pulisic is still not at his best.

Our midfield like I stated many times is not as good as TC claims it to be.

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[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

Doesn't it feel like we're being managed by Big Sam at times? 

To be obtuse with Big Sam we'll be getting neck ache

On a more serious note i think he needs to start positioning player's in attack better (especially Werner), maybe he should leave positional/attack training to Jody as (all be it with the best teams at a lower level) our youth teams under him played sensational football.

[Jase 43,479]

13 minutes ago, Tomo said:

To be obtuse with Big Sam we'll be getting neck ache

On a more serious note i think he needs to start positioning player's in attack better (especially Werner), maybe he should leave positional/attack training to Jody as (all be it with the best teams at a lower level) our youth teams under him played sensational football.

I really don't know what to think anymore. There's just no consistency in our attacking play. One game we look exciting to watch and the next we look as if we're being managed by Big Sam or Tony Pulis. What's worse is that we have all these attacking options - even with 1 or 2 out - and our football still look predictable at times. We don't look to be getting the best out of anyone. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,722]

Tonights game must have confused a lot of the 'Frank Out' merchants. They'll have to wait till the next loss to impart their forensic knowledge on why Frank is rubbish

[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

I really don't know what to think anymore. There's just no consistency in our attacking play. One game we look exciting to watch and the next we look as if we're being managed by Big Sam or Tony Pulis. What's worse is that we have all these attacking options - even with 1 or 2 out - and our football still look predictable at times. We don't look to be getting the best out of anyone. 

I think Lampard is good at getting tunes out of some players on an individual basis (prime example he turned Pulisic from a player with doubts over end product to our talisman, if we want to blame him for defensive issues of last season and team play issues he should by the same token get praise for the improvement of Puli under him) but he's got to work out a way to knit it all together. 

With two freak teams to overhaul to win the title, we need a lot more variation to our play. Aslong as the results are respectable I'll give him time for that but between now and May serious progress needs to be had on that score.

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I think Lampard is good at getting tunes out of some players on an individual basis (prime example he turned Pulisic from a player with doubts over end product to our talisman, if we want to blame him for defensive issues of last season and team play issues he should by the same token get praise for the improvement of Puli under him) but he's got to work out a way to knit it all together. 

With two freak teams to overhaul to win the title, we need a lot more variation to our play. Aslong as the results are respectable I'll give him time for that but between now and May serious progress needs to be had on that score.

There should have been a system in place by now but every game, the attacking play is different.

[Tomo 21,751]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

There should have been a system in place by now but every game, the attacking play is different.

Well as you know from Mou, I won't hesitate to alter my opinion if/when it gets to the point I believe it's best for the club.

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Well as you know from Mou, I won't hesitate to alter my opinion if/when it gets to the point I believe it's best for the club.

The worry I have is the board would not care about the style or whether we have a cohesive system in place if Lampard keeps getting the results and ends up achieving the targets - e.g. finish in the Top 4. I know we are in a result business but all that pragmatic style from Mourinho, Conte is what that has left us behind the likes of Liverpool and Man City and the board didn't care much because we were winning trophies. Would be a fucking travesty if we have all these talented players but do not utilize them properly to win things and dominate the competition and the players, one by one, leave for elsewhere...