Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: It's quite annoying that we were looking up just few weeks ago and suddenly we're just 2 points above David Moyes Westham after 13 matches which is a significant 1/3 of the season..... Aaaaargh It's just a sign of how crazy this season has been. Last season, we lost back-to-back games twice and still stayed in 4th while now, we lose back-to-back games and we're suddenly close to being mid-table. Bosnian Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: Aye and from two identical performances you'd think both Lampard and the squad would've learned from last season. Frustrating indeed. The very reason why we finished 30 points off. He hasn't learned honestly. We just have a better goalkeeper and a more creative player than willian in Ziyech. The moment Ziyech goes, we can't create chances or score to save our lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, kellzfresh said: He hasn't learned honestly. We just have a better goalkeeper and a more creative player than willian in Ziyech. The moment Ziyech goes, we can't create chances or score to save our lives I think we need to wait and see Monday. Lots of talk from both the players and Lampard, let's see if they actually bite or if they are all bark much like the Wolves performance. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: It's just a sign of how crazy this season has been. Last season, we lost back-to-back games twice and still stayed in 4th while now, we lose back-to-back games and we're suddenly close to being mid-table. Last season Tottenham underperformed, Leicester fell off a cliff in the 2nd half of the season and there was no Everton sniffing around. This season could end badly if Lamps doesn't find a tactic that works without our only creative player in Ziyech and a half fit Pulisic Atomiswave, Johnnyeye and Mana 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, kellzfresh said: Last season Tottenham underperformed, Leicester fell off a cliff in the 2nd half of the season and there was no Everton sniffing around. This season could end badly if Lamps doesn't find a tactic that works without our only creative player in Ziyech and a half fit Pulisic We have a player in Havertz that produced Messi like numbers last season. We have so much more up front that Lampard needs to sort out........now. Johnnyeye and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: We have a player in Havertz that produced Messi like numbers last season. We have so much more up front that Lampard needs to sort out........now. That was because Leverkusen built the team around Havertz. Not sure if that was ever gonna be the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 So...we will have had 6 days off before the game, its fucking bollocks if we dont see tempo desire and hunger to win the match. I dont care what form WH are in, a draw is a loss for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 All will be forgiven if we get 9 points from West Ham, Arsenal, and VIlla before City. Entirely possible and should be required considering Arsenal and City go at it midweek in the league cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: So...we will have had 6 days off before the game, its fucking bollocks if we dont see tempo desire and hunger to win the match. I dont care what form WH are in, a draw is a loss for me. A free week is never a free week under Lampard because that's when he will overwork the players. I get apprehensive whenever we have that because muscle injury is the most common injury ever since Lampard got here - there's still too many even if we take Pulisic's problem out of the equation - and although I don't have the exact numbers, am pretty sure a lot of the injuries last season happened when we had a free week, no game in midweek etc. It's also why the players some time look gassed after a certain period in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The worst possible time to play WHU, as they will sit tight and we will be clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,711 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: All will be forgiven if we get 9 points from West Ham, Arsenal, and VIlla before City. Entirely possible and should be required considering Arsenal and City go at it midweek in the league cup. Honestly..I dont think we'll get all from West Ham or Arsenal..and who knows about Villa they're unpredictable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Honestly..I dont think we'll get all from West Ham or Arsenal..and who knows about Villa they're unpredictable.. Then faith should be lost with Lampard. Simple Johnnyeye and Mana 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: A free week is never a free week under Lampard because that's when he will overwork the players. I get apprehensive whenever we have that because muscle injury is the most common injury ever since Lampard got here - there's still too many even if we take Pulisic's problem out of the equation - and although I don't have the exact numbers, am pretty sure a lot of the injuries last season happened when we had a free week, no game in midweek etc. It's also why the players some time look gassed after a certain period in a game. Yup thats true...baffling FL aint aware of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/werner-havertz-chelsea-stats-news-19481545 kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 While I don't disagree with some of the concerns about Lampard it's really strange how they only get mentioned after poor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tomo said: While I don't disagree with some of the concerns about Lampard it's really strange how they only get mentioned after poor results. Fair point, but it is in adversity you can pin-point the difficulties and solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Fair point, but it is in adversity you can pin-point the difficulties and solutions. If someone is that adamant Lampard isn't the man then if anything publicly sticking to their guns even during winning/unbeaten runs will only strengthen their position. The general mood of this place literally went from one extreme to the other from Sevilla/Leeds to Everton/Wolves. Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, Tomo said: If someone is that adamant Lampard isn't the man then if anything publicly sticking to their guns even during winning/unbeaten runs will only strengthen their position. Dont know about that Tomo....shit is fucked atm. God knows I have given the man credit when deserving but I will also call him out when obvious bs is on display....in a fair way of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tomo said: While I don't disagree with some of the concerns about Lampard it's really strange how they only get mentioned after poor results. For the record, I have mentioned/pointed out/complained about Werner being wasted out wide since September. Moreover, it's all good while winning but when we weren't, like the last 2 games, some of the problems with Lampard last season reared their ugly head again and he did nothing about them. I wouldn't have been so critical had he tried to change things but nothing worked and we still lost. Problem was, he didn't try to change or do anything different in the last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Jason said: A free week is never a free week under Lampard because that's when he will overwork the players. I get apprehensive whenever we have that because muscle injury is the most common injury ever since Lampard got here - there's still too many even if we take Pulisic's problem out of the equation - and although I don't have the exact numbers, am pretty sure a lot of the injuries last season happened when we had a free week, no game in midweek etc. It's also why the players some time look gassed after a certain period in a game. Remains to be seen if this is true and if it's another muscle injury but otherwise, this pretty reiterates my point above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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