🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

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7 hours ago, Henrique said:

 Every game is Mount+10. Mount is also the biggest flaw in his managerial skills, I mean, anyone who thinks Mount is "essential" for this team doesn't have any clue about the game.

 

Its funny i just would say the opposite.

People thinking Mount don’t deserve credit don’t know a clue about football.

The boy work very hard without the ball, moving very well between the lines etc.

Saying his skills, passing and decision are weak are just a lie.

He has maybe a lack of quality in the finishing area or some bad decision yes but his style of play require a lot of energy so it’s understandable he has waste in his game.

The fact is Kovacic-Kante-Jorginho are all solid, i love the three but they are not good to score goals.

Our wingers neither, in any case not enough for wingers.

And our main problem is we can’t kill the game.

If you pull out Mount to play with Kova-Jorgi-Kante, it doesn’t help us at this moment.

Mount is determinant 1 game on 3 not bad for a kid who can improve and play his firs months in Premier League. With more work he could be even more.

The thing with Mount it’s he needs to be more rested.

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Plymouth Argyle set to complete permanent signing of Josh Grant from Chelsea

The 21-year-old has been on loan to the Pilgrims for the first half of this season

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/plymouth-argyle-josh-grant-chelsea-3696045

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6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

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On 02/01/2020 at 6:39 PM, kellzfresh said:

All the attacking flair we had when Lamps came in is all gone.

That was the exact story with Sarri too - start out with high intensity pressing and fluid attack, go on a great run, then fall off. Strong indication that the problem lies with the players that they can't keep it up for more than a few months into the season.

We need reinforcements, badly.

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7 hours ago, manpe said:

That was the exact story with Sarri too - start out with high intensity pressing and fluid attack, go on a great run, then fall off. Strong indication that the problem lies with the players that they can't keep it up for more than a few months into the season.

We need reinforcements, badly.

I think it's too simplistic to say 'we need reinforcements' to solve this. Sure, you're not wrong and it will help but we have seen this played out multiple times in seasons before last. 2008/09, 2010/11, 2012/13, 2017/18 are some examples.

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

I think it's too simplistic to say 'we need reinforcements' to solve this. Sure, you're not wrong and it will help but we have seen this played out multiple times in seasons before last. 2008/09, 2010/11, 2012/13, 2017/18 are some examples.

what we truly need is to learn when to cut bait and ditch shit

for far too long we cling onto dregs or ex good players who anyone with a brain could see would soon be dregs

now we are doing it all again

playing cunty-cunt with selling to Inter or Juve so we will fuck about, lose out on Chilwell, never make a move for Telles, claim the rest are too expensive and say 'DAMN, looks like Alonso and Emerson and Emergency-Azpi are it after all once again, relax it will be FINE' (pro-tip, no, no it will NOT)

now we are reportedly renewing Zouma until he is over 30 (thus no way we are selling)

Lamps not wanting to pull trigger on Ake because he thinks AC will come good (and thus Ake is gone for good, as the buyback clause expires)

dithering about over Kante (his role and also potentially cashing in as his role now is NOT working out at all) <<<< BIG ONE

all the piss-poor buys and loanee dregs who we cannot sell

hopes and prayers for CHO and RLC to recover from what could be career-wrecking injures

the INSANE lack of movement on strikers (not talking Werner as that is out of our control, we just need to buy some lower-priced upgrade for now and get Bats and Giroud the fuck off the books)<<< thsi soon changes I think, so yay!

Bats now is supposedly staying <<< THIS NEEDS TO NOT HAPPEN, it is madness to think year after year that he is ever going to be Chels material

Pedro and Willian are TOO OLD, especially IF we renew Willian

I understand Sancho is out there, but ffs, we might get Chilwell'd there too and end up with FUCKALL other than some dice roll hope and prayer or (HELL NO) an 80m Zaha calamitous buy

Mount, well I have no clue but if we toss ALL our AMF eggs into his and  the super injured RLC baskets we are again courting disaster, hopefully our academy kids come good  like Anjorin and Gallagher (wo is not an AMF anyway)

UTTER LACK OF CREATIVITY overall

Azpi is the perfect summation, along with Willian, AC, Pedro, Bats and Alonso of failing to sell players OFF when you know they are not good enough or are spent and too bloody old, worn-out

 

I really think Lamps is obsessed with Moussa Dembele, and I actually think he would take him over Werner or maybe even Lautaro Martinez

if Dembele turns into yet another French BUST (they are legion) we are SOOOOO fucked

if we miss out on Chilwell and refuse to buy Telles and claim Gaya and Grimaldo are too expensive (they are, especially Gaya, and I just do not rate Grimaldo that much, despite the argy-bargy this draws from his fan club) we are fucked unless there is some miracle LB rabbit/hat-pull I am missing

Same goes for Sancho, IF we do not buy smart IF we miss out on him (hint, £80m Zaha in, me OUT...of my mind)

 

we get those 3 massive areas wrong, and the CB's don't do what Lamps is convinced they will do, PLUS we cock-up on Kante overall

we are going to drive into big old Arsenal or worse style ditch

 

bad bad bad overarching methodology and zeitgeist here from the board on down

really in a mood this morning, eeeek

just sick of reading articles that re-enforce the assclown level

 

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“Strong possibility” of loan for promising Chelsea youngster according to insider

https://www.chelsea-news.co/2020/01/strong-possibility-loan-promising-chelsea-youngster-according/

Chelsea have just beaten Nottingham Forest in the FA Cup, and there was one notable absence.

Marc Guehi had been superb in two Carabao Cup ties for us, and it seemed likely he would get at least a chance off the bench today, if not a start.

Instead Frank Lampard went with two of his senior defenders, meaning Guehi has missed another chance for first team action.

Twitter insider CareFree Youth has indicted on Twitter that a loan move for the defender for the rest of the season is now a “strong possibility”, given our cup games are out of the way and there are just 10 development squad games left in the season.

 

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We have had players out injured this season with muscle injuries...Pulisic, Kante the latest two. 

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On 05/01/2020 at 11:49 PM, Vesper said:

“Strong possibility” of loan for promising Chelsea youngster according to insider

https://www.chelsea-news.co/2020/01/strong-possibility-loan-promising-chelsea-youngster-according/

Chelsea have just beaten Nottingham Forest in the FA Cup, and there was one notable absence.

Marc Guehi had been superb in two Carabao Cup ties for us, and it seemed likely he would get at least a chance off the bench today, if not a start.

Instead Frank Lampard went with two of his senior defenders, meaning Guehi has missed another chance for first team action.

Twitter insider CareFree Youth has indicted on Twitter that a loan move for the defender for the rest of the season is now a “strong possibility”, given our cup games are out of the way and there are just 10 development squad games left in the season.

 

carefreeyouth an insider?  Never heard so much bollocks in my life.  He knows fuck all

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6 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

carefreeyouth an insider?  Never heard so much bollocks in my life.  He knows fuck all

he was correct though (as he/she normally is)

so there is that

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23 minutes ago, Vesper said:

he was correct though (as he/she normally is)

so there is that

he was, but it was already rumoured elsewhere before he "broke it".

 

Take zero notice of him, seriously.  He has no inside info.  Next time he tweets about a potential signing, he wont name the player, at all.   Soon as its in the media he will then make up some shit like "this is the guy i was on about, i just wasnt allowed to say anything"   He's a sad wanabe.

 

Never once spoke about lemar, soon as it was in the papers he said  "i knew we had asked about lemar but not sure if we have bid"   oh really, but you waited until it was in the public media before revealing that?  lol

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If the players are not better than what we have, save that money for Summer. There will be some serious talent moving then.

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We have a pretty soft schedule at the end of the season. If we get through February still in the top 4, I think we can finish top 4 with the players we have. I also would like to see a better winger and LB. in January. Clubs that are buying are paying WC prices for good players. I would love to see us have the bank roll to go after both Sancho and Werner, or those caliber of players in the summer. 

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5 hours ago, Mana said:

Get one or two signings done. A LOAN even. Just something. We will not get top 4 with this squad if other sides strengthen. I don't trust them anymore.

Who is strengthening? Spurs losing Eriksen and Kane will be out maybe till the end of the season. They are signing for big money some kid from Benfica. Maybe they sign Piatek but he's horrible this season and is far away from Kane level. Arsenal? Lol. Wolves with all respect are not in top4 race expecially with EL incoming. 

I don't know why I even mentioned these clubs because realistically only United is a threat. Bruno will improve them no doubt but they have Thursday-Sunday schedule soon and it's going to kill them. Don't forget Leicester is slowly going down and is also in the top4 race. Even with this squad we should get top4 comfortably with all the circumstances. 

We all agree we need LB and RW but we won't sign them this January because we are waiting for Chilwell/Alaba and Sancho who'll be available in the summer. I do think we can get Dembele probably on deadline day but only if Lyon finds replacement. 

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5 hours ago, Mana said:

I've seen big players last summer snub United because they are not big as they were before, including failure to get Champions League and having a rookie intern. (Which star player would want to work under Ole?)

We will be in the same position as United in the summer if we fail to get CL this season (and Lampard gets another season). Get one or two signings done. A LOAN even. Just something. We will not get top 4 with this squad if other sides strengthen. I don't trust them anymore.

The problem is the real top drawer players will not move this window. So the alternative is overpaying for a 3rd of 4th choice option in those positions this January.

If we overspend and they under-perform what are we expected to then do in the summer having blown big money in this window.

Just as an example based on players we're being linked with, if we've been given an idea that Sancho and Werner are interested in a move in the summer, should we wait or should we instead spend our money and buy Zaha and Dembele just because we may be able to get them now if we pay enough? There is no way we'd drop £80m on Zaha to then be in the market for Sancho in the summer.

I think the club are doing the right thing, if this is indeed their strategy. If we miss out on Champions League football options such as Zaha and Dembele would likely still be attainable in the summer anyway.

The only position possibly is left back because I'm not sold on us trying to buy Chilwell. In the last month I've kept more of an eye on him and he has been underwhelming at best, particularly defensively. If there is someone available now alternatively to Chilwell then I'd be inclined to make a move for them this window. 

As you mentioned, if we really need to bring a player in to freshen things up or add an extra body then it would probably be a loan and in that situation you do have to ask the question why is that player available on loan from their parent club in the first place?

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14 hours ago, Mana said:

I've seen big players last summer snub United because they are not big as they were before, including failure to get Champions League and having a rookie intern. (Which star player would want to work under Ole?)

We will be in the same position as United in the summer if we fail to get CL this season (and Lampard gets another season). Get one or two signings done. A LOAN even. Just something. We will not get top 4 with this squad if other sides strengthen. I don't trust them anymore.

Define something? Should we sign another Zappacosta? 

Give me a name of a player that is better than ours that is attainable. 

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1 hour ago, communicate said:

Define something? Should we sign another Zappacosta? 

Give me a name of a player that is better than ours that is attainable. 

at LB it is easy

I want BOTH of the following

Sell fucking Alonso  to Inter and buy

Alex Telles (£32m RC) tracking to 10 goals and 16 assists, has over 50 assists as a LB (including CL) in the past 3 and half years, and he is a SUPERB corner taker

and then (or first) swap for

Robin Gosens (offer a straight swap of Emerson for him to Atalanta) tracking to at least 15 goals and 11 or 12 assists (over a 3500 min season)  tall, pacy, solid defensively, motor on him, typical high end German fullback with a great shot and cross

they are almost the exact same age (28 days apart) at 25yo

Emerson is an Italian citizen and speaks (obviously) fluent Italian and has played for years in Serie A and is much more suited for Serie A (Gosens is built for the EPL as any LB is atm)

they are both worth around £30m (hell, I would pay £35-40m for Gosens, I have watched a tonne of his games now, he is the real deal, so I would even toss a bit of cash in the deal to get it done)

 

done and dusted

 

it is madness to keep trotting out Azpi at LB

he crushes, just kills, our offensive play on the left, the other two (regardless of how in demand they are, and they are in demand) are dogshit for us, the EPL, and the way we play

 

LB is by far my number one enraging thing atm about the club (Kante will be soon be as well come summer if we do not do something to sort him now)

we have NO QUALITY PLAYERS THERE AT ALL (the only position you can say this about)

 

FUCK waiting for the insanely over priced Chilwell (who is massively slumping atm and is so NOT a guarantee but anyway) fuck paying 100m euros for Gaya or 60m for the super short Grimaldo

Theo Hernandez I also rate, but he will be shit hard to pull from AC Milan (plus they just have been bought by the 2nd richest man on the planet, so have literally a 100 billion fortune backing them now)

Alaba is a pipe dream, Bayern are not selling him now or in the summer, they will probably wait until summer 2021, (when he is 29yo) to sell him (even if they would sell him now, they would want at least £70m, no way do I believe they will sell him for 60m euros in January, which I have seen tossed out there)

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

at LB it is easy

I want BOTH of the following

Sell fucking Alonso  to Inter and buy

Alex Telles (£32m RC) tracking to 10 goals and 16 assists, has over 50 assists as a LB (including CL) in the past 3 and half years, and he is a SUPERB corner taker

and then (or first) swap for

Robin Gosens (offer a straight swap of Emerson for him to Atalanta) tracking to at least 15 goals and 11 or 12 assists (over a 3500 min season)  tall, pacy, solid defensively, motor on him, typical high end German fullback with a great shot and cross

Alaba is a pipe dream, Bayern are not selling him now or in the summer, they will probably wait until summer 2021, (when he is 29yo) to sell him (even if they would sell him now, they would want at least £70m, no way do I believe they will sell him for 60m euros in January, which I have seen tossed out there)

Alaba contract expires in June 2021 so they will most likely sell him in the summer this year. And it has to be cheaper because of this. It doesn't look like he will renew and he said if he leaves Real, Barca (they are set at LB) or PL are only options. Let City have Chilwell and we have open path for Alaba. 

But I must say I do like Gosens a lot! 

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27 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Alaba contract expires in June 2021 so they will most likely sell him in the summer this year. And it has to be cheaper because of this. It doesn't look like he will renew and he said if he leaves Real, Barca (they are set at LB) or PL are only options. Let City have Chilwell and we have open path for Alaba. 

But I must say I do like Gosens a lot! 

IF Alaba is around £45-50m then I can be persuaded to accept him over Telles, but I really want Gosens NOW

am 100% sold on him as a great attacking left fullback, left wingback, and even maybe LMF/RW in a pinch

he screams Chels quality to me

gut feeling strictly but I truly like the cut of his jib

I think he can do major damage under the Lamp's system

he is MILES beyond the dregs buys of Zappacosta, and Baba and the utterly mediocre (for the EPL) Emerson

he is like a far better defending so much faster, much stronger, far more driven Alonso (he is only 1 and a half inches shorter than the turtle too, so adds greatly needed height)

Emerson as bait for Atalanta surely can help close a deal as Serie A LOVES Emerson (look at how long Juve have been trying to prise him away from us, under both Massimiliano Allegri and now the old smoker Sarri) He is HG in Italy, which is a huge advantage.

We have already scouted him, so let's get it done!!!

 

Lotthar Matthäus believes Atalanta's Robin Gosens deserves a shot in the German national team.

https://bulinews.com/news/4269/lothar-matthäus-atalantas-robin-gosens-deserves-be-called-for-germany

Lothar Matthäus has urged Germany coach Joachim Löw to call up Atalanta's Robin Gosens for the national team.
Gosens, who can play at left-back and as a left midfielder, has made an impression on Matthäus with his performances for Atalanta over the past few seasons.

"With the affinity I have for Italy, Robin Gosens is no longer a nobody to me. He has been playing at a high level for two years. He's dangerous in front of goal, and I think he's capable of playing internationally. He has proven that in the Champions League," Matthäus, a former Inter player, wrote in a column for Kicker.

"I don't see why Löw shouldn't test him. He's very well trained tactically. That's why I would like to see him in the German national team," he added.
The 25-year-old has made 21 appearances for Atalanta this season, racking up seven goals and four assists.

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Matthäus is notoriously hard on players too, so if he rates Gosens, that is a big deal