Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I actually think it was tactically spot on. Everyone expected us to come out all guns blazing and run out of steam early but we sat deep and waited for the counter attack opps. Individualy it was a very poor performance. the passing from all midfielders was terrible. werner would have needed just a coupleof great passes straight through the middle and he would have socred a hatful. we had brightons number just couldnt finish them off. RJ and Alonso made individual mistakes to allow brighton chances but they have never been very good defenders. AC and Zouma were very collected and solid tho, sussed out tons of dangerous attacks. Ryan Fong, pHaRaOn and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 It's early days but I fear with all the options that we have this season, Lampard will overthink things and start to tinker around too much with the system and player selection (yesterday's match was a good example of that). Really hope he will settle on a fixed system soon and play the players in their best position and not put square pegs in round holes. It is one thing wanting the team to be adaptable and flexible, it is another to tinker too much for the sake of it. Consistency is needed if we want to have success. Even Guardiola - except when he is playing in Europe - who has a reputation of changing things too much has always largely kept the same system, player selection etc domestically. Or look at Klopp at Liverpool. Consistent system, consistent team selection and they have reaped the rewards massively over the last 2-3 seasons. communicate and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 It's early days but I fear with all the options that we have this season, Lampard will overthink things and start to tinker around too much with the system and player selection (yesterday's match was a good example of that). Really hope he will settle on a fixed system soon and play the players in their best position and not put square pegs in round holes. It is one thing wanting the team to be adaptable and flexible, it is another to tinker too much for the sake of it. Consistency is needed if we want to have success. Even Guardiola - except when he is playing in Europe - who has a reputation of changing things too much has always largely kept the same system, player selection etc domestically. Or look at Klopp at Liverpool. Consistent system, consistent team selection and they have reaped the rewards massively over the last 2-3 seasons. Lampard has to rotate to make a big squad like that happy. I mean, look at Werner, Tammy and Giroud as a CFs lol. Way too much quality for one position.Our midfield has too many players too, and Rice sadly might be coming, so more midfielders lol.But Lampard chose that for himselfGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: Lampard has to rotate to make a big squad like that happy. I mean, look at Werner, Tammy and Giroud as a CFs lol. Way too much quality for one position. Our midfield has too many players too, and Rice sadly might be coming, so more midfielders lol. But Lampard chose that for himself Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Rotating the players is fine, especially when needed. But when he starts to chop and change it for the sake of it or play players out of position (like yesterday), then there is where the problems may start. One can only hope he knows what he's doing and not just someone who talks a big game without knowing how to back it up... Fernando, Unionjack and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Lampard has to rotate to make a big squad like that happy. I mean, look at Werner, Tammy and Giroud as a CFs lol. Way too much quality for one position. Our midfield has too many players too, and Rice sadly might be coming, so more midfielders lol. But Lampard chose that for himself Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk He didn't seen to mind making Giroo unhappy while he kept playing Bats. Or Leaving Jorgi on the bench I think FL can have a heart of ice. Didnt seem to mind jumping into a shitty shirt after we all thought he was going of to play in the States and only train at Shitty. That sight is burned into my retinas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 He didn't seen to mind making Giroo unhappy while he kept playing Bats. Or Leaving Jorgi on the bench I think FL can have a heart of ice. Didnt seem to mind jumping into a shitty shirt after we all thought he was going of to play in the States and only train at Shitty. That sight is burned into my retinas.Batsman played 225 minutes in PL. I do not know how 225 minutes could have made Giroud unhappy. If giving a player 225 minutes in Pl is enough these days too make players unhappy, I mean they should not play at a big club to begin withGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Batsman played 225 minutes in PL. I do not know how 225 minutes could have made Giroud unhappy. If giving a player 225 minutes in Pl is enough these days too make players unhappy, I mean they should not play at a big club to begin with Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Felt much longer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou 192 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 kellzfresh and prehuman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 He keeps being stubborn and will not last long here. At least we will have quality players that joined us just because of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 New season..same ole problems. Also our defence is woeful..still!! Thats the problem area we haven't seemed to have addressed.. Fun fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 For me he has a handful of games to sort this out, he's had big money by the club and this is looking shambolic as it stands. If things don't change we will Poch here you watch. Azul, lucio and 0007 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Still not convinced he will be a good manager. We still make the same mistakes defensively, can´t play out of press and just rely on the individual quality of Pulisic to create something upfront. I am still figuring out if he wants Chelsea to be a counter attacking or a possession based team, even after one year there isn´t just any system implemented. That being said, his man management seems to be very bad. His phasing out of certain players without any reason set the team up with negative vibes. (Tomori, Giroud,Jorginho, CHO) I hope he comes good at Chelsea, but I fear he won´t to be honest. 0007, Strike, prehuman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prehuman 119 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 He´s the problem. Azul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Special Juan said: For me he has a handful of games to sort this out, he's had big money by the club and this is looking shambolic as it stands. If things don't change we will Poch here you watch. Poch is going to get the job anyways. Lampard(and Jody) have shown that they are in over their heads here...and thats fine. Hes still a young manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 His inferiority complex is doing my head in. Azul and 0007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Honest question, can someone tell me what his philosophy is? He constantly changes his formation and tactics which is a huge problem. If you look at every worldclass manager then you can clearly see they are consistent in their tactics and formation. Their team has a certain playstyle and they stick with it. With Lampard I literally don't see his footballing philosophy. It's very confusing for a team to play a certain way if the manager is confused himself. kellzfresh, Beigl and prehuman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 It is still early in the season but since we all agreed that Lampard has no excuses this time, am just gonna throw these out here... 1. The lack of proper pre-season and all the disruptions have not helped but it feels like Lampard has leaned too much into that as an excuse based on our uninspiring displays so far. One would think that after a season in charge, Lampard would have embedded his template, his way of playing into the team and yet two games in, we still look a mess. Can't defend, can't press, can't pass the ball, can't control possession. We can't even do any basics right and play the idea of football that Lampard supposedly wants us to play. Why? 2. What exactly is Lampard's tactics and style of play? Because if all he has just the talk of playing attacking football, pressing the opposition, promoting youth etc, then I know a more experienced manager out there who can likely implement all of those better than what we have seen so far. If I am being super harsh, his action doesn't speak louder than words right now. It is all talk but what we see on the pitch is like the opposite. 3. Do not necessarily mind the counter attacking approach against Liverpool today but the passiveness of it? Diabolical set-up. Everyone was so deep till the point the approach felt like containment as opposed to actually counter attacking. Also, playing long balls to Havertz to feed off? Really? We also had Werner up against Liverpool's high line but we barely played many balls over the top and we barely even tried it. Why? 4. Said it in the other thread, Mount is basically turning into another Willian for us. His effort cannot be faulted but what does he contribute in attack? kellzfresh, 0007 and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Henrique 9,133 Posted September 20, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted September 20, 2020 Christensen fucked the game. Zyech, Pulisic and Silva out. His only mistake is his love for Mount. Other than that I dont know why you guys are mad. Johnnyeye, Ryan Fong, Alabama and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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