Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[MefiX19 1,092]

2 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

According to reports, Lewandowski might be going to Real. Or he might be trying to pressure Bayern into giving him a better contract. Who knows...

Nevertheless, if Lewa goes to Real, that would surely force Benzema out of the club. Now, I know he isn't the best striker around but he just might be the best we can our hands into this summer. Fantastic link-up play and ball control, good finishing at times. Worth a shot if we can't land Aubamayang, Morata, Griezmann, Dybala and the co. And so so much better option than Lukaku who will never be a world class striker. Or even close to Benzema's quality.

Benzema is really underrated he us brilliant striker and i would take him instead of Costa here

[the wes 7,212]

Jetro Willems seems like a gd left back does anybody rate him on this forum ??

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[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

On 5/28/2016 at 6:58 AM, the wes said:

Jetro Willems seems like a gd left back does anybody rate him on this forum ??

He's quality, I honestly wish we went after him instead of Baba. 

He'll probably end up at City or Liverpool as their both looking for a LB

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I'm really going to think we may end up with nobody, and I'd rather play youth than buy average players like Rudiger, for example. If we were feeling really adventurous I'd love to see a Baker-Ake-RLC midfield, maybe with Cesc further back, or a 3-5-2 system.

As for the defence, we're not going to get Stones. Each party pissed the other one off, it's not going to happen. I'd like to see that bloke (#43?) who played in the last game of the season play there a bit, but I can actually see us beginning the season with (+ more chances for youth for example JCS) Azpi-Zouma-Terry-Baba or with Iva, but in my opinion he will be sold.

I'll monitor those we send on loan next season more, like Jordan Houghton, (probably) Mario Pasalic - those that have potential.

              Courtois

Azpi -  Zouma - Terry  - Baba

                 Cesc

   RLC         Ake       Baker

           Costa   Hazard*

Next season? Playing that side will probably scare a lot of people, though.

NB: Hazard would be a false 9, that left side/centre left of the pitch would be completely his territory. Relying on Azpilicueta to provide all the width on the right side is probably not a good thing to do though. Like I say, that new RB fella would probably fit right in.

I still think Terry will keep Cahill or anybody else that comes along out of the side, as long as Zouma is next to him. Although hopefully (unless it is magically for England somehow) we won't be seeing too much of Cahill-Terry again.

In the event of Terry being absent, I think Cesc and the Gaz will get the armband.

[St Abramovich 175]

6 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

I'm really going to think we may end up with nobody, and I'd rather play youth than buy average players like Rudiger, for example. If we were feeling really adventurous I'd love to see a Baker-Ake-RLC midfield, maybe with Cesc further back, or a 3-5-2 system.

As for the defence, we're not going to get Stones. Each party pissed the other one off, it's not going to happen. I'd like to see that bloke (#43?) who played in the last game of the season play there a bit, but I can actually see us beginning the season with (+ more chances for youth for example JCS) Azpi-Zouma-Terry-Baba or with Iva, but in my opinion he will be sold.

I'll monitor those we send on loan next season more, like Jordan Houghton, (probably) Mario Pasalic - those that have potential.

              Courtois

Azpi -  Zouma - Terry  - Baba

                 Cesc

   RLC         Ake       Baker

           Costa   Hazard*

Next season? Playing that side will probably scare a lot of people, though.

NB: Hazard would be a false 9, that left side/centre left of the pitch would be completely his territory. Relying on Azpilicueta to provide all the width on the right side is probably not a good thing to do though. Like I say, that new RB fella would probably fit right in.

I still think Terry will keep Cahill or anybody else that comes along out of the side, as long as Zouma is next to him. Although hopefully (unless it is magically for England somehow) we won't be seeing too much of Cahill-Terry again.

In the event of Terry being absent, I think Cesc and the Gaz will get the armband.

This team would get nowhere near top 4. Chucking one youth player into the first team is reasonable to expect, but three? We still want to have a chance at winning things, it isn't all about the future, there needs to be some here and now.

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Lichtsteiner said yes to Conte on Sat. He could join Chelsea when Dani Alves is officially at Juve. €11m, 3 years deal. (@EmaGiulianelli)

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

1 hour ago, St Abramovich said:

This team would get nowhere near top 4. Chucking one youth player into the first team is reasonable to expect, but three? We still want to have a chance at winning things, it isn't all about the future, there needs to be some here and now.

No, that's the attitude that will get this team nowhere. Buying a ton of average players would give us a Man Utd period of having no success for the next 3 years, hovering around 5th-6th and entrapped in a rut of not being attractive to the calibre of players we need but having enough money to sustain that by buying wastefully.

Man Utd's only flare this season has come from Rashford, an unheard of 18 year old boy 3 months ago. Tottenham's team is incredibly young and damned near won the league, sorry but if we want to return to the top we're better off nurturing a crop of excellent players ourselves.

It's absolutely about the future. May I remind you that we need a stadium in 17-18 to play in. If the yids have CL football and we do not, the likelihood of Wembley slipping through our fingers is very high, regardless of the money we throw at the FA. Buying Rudiger and whatever other crap we're looking at now Nainggolan and Lukaku aren't going to happen will not do that.

NB: Ake had a fantastic season at Watford, was a player of the year there, and was actually playing out of position for the season. He's not a gamble, he will almost certainly succeed here.

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1 hour ago, Eidur the Spider said:

Lichtsteiner said yes to Conte on Sat. He could join Chelsea when Dani Alves is officially at Juve. €11m, 3 years deal. (@EmaGiulianelli)

So another 32 year old that keeps Azpi at LB. 

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CB  → Murillo Musacchio

CDM　→DaniloPereira Bazoer 

Sub CF → Berahino Icardi 

３ players cost about 60M￡

We cant get World-class , change target now !!

 

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if this were fantasy football, I would probably just...

 

sell: Mikel, Oscar, Costa

buy: Lukaku, Aubameyang, Naingolan, Gundogan, Gana/Kante (Aston Villa) a new CB, two new TOP CLASS fullbacks.

 

anyone on the Griezmann party wagon for the past two seasons: how about players like Carrasco or Saul instead? I think Griezmann is definitely below the ability and presence of Aubameyang.

[The Skipper 20,609]

On 30 May 2016 at 5:28 AM, Reddish-Blue said:

He's quality, I honestly wish we went after him instead of Baba. 

He'll probably end up at City or Liverpool as their both looking for a LB

We should stay well clear of Willems, he isn't good enough. Erratic player. 

[The Skipper 20,609]

17 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

Man Utd's only flare this season has come from Rashford, an unheard of 18 year old boy 3 months ago. 

Completely forgotten about Martial, who has been far more important?

Just because one youth player has done well at United doesn't mean we can use that as a definite example of how to move forward. 

Tottenham have lots of young players but they're all very mature with tons of first team experience at the top level. Again, not really a great example to use. 

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

39 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Completely forgotten about Martial, who has been far more important?

Just because one youth player has done well at United doesn't mean we can use that as a definite example of how to move forward. 

Tottenham have lots of young players but they're all very mature with tons of first team experience at the top level. Again, not really a great example to use. 

19 years old. My point still stands up.

Ake has had tons of first team experience, quite a portion of it here at Chelsea. As has Zouma. For experience, we have Terry, Cesc, Azpilicueta, Diego, Pedro, Begovic for example.

2 youth players is NOT a substantial risk. At MK Dons, where Dele Alli also came from, Karl Robinson remarked on Lewis Baker as 'the most hardworking player he's ever met'. He's literally the profile of player we've been crying out for, along with Ake in that midfield area. Baker was an ever present last season for Vitesse. Yes, RLC is a gamble compared to those two; but we'll only find out one way and we have many other options if that particular experiment fails.

It's not like we're fielding our whole damn youth team. I just see absolutely no gain in buying mediocre players when we could make some world class ones ourselves.

A good experienced RB, though, maybe wouldn't go amiss. Lichtsteiner actually would be a good addition imo, that creates a balanced side.

 

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

18 hours ago, Madmax said:

So another 32 year old that keeps Azpi at LB. 

Tbh I think Dave is actually a better force at LB than he is at RB. Can't cross very well on his right, can't provide enough width. Whereas on the left it allows him to cut in for Terry and also frees up Hazard more. It just works better for all parties.

Lichtsteiner is an intelligent player. I wouldn't be averse to it, not for £6m equivalent anyway. Though if we are in for him, we certainly will not be giving him a 4 year contract if we waited until the end to give Terry a one year deal. 2 years would be sensible I reckon.

[The Skipper 20,609]

3 minutes ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

19 years old. My point still stands up.

Ake has had tons of first team experience, quite a portion of it here at Chelsea. As has Zouma. For experience, we have Terry, Cesc, Azpilicueta, Diego, Pedro, Begovic for example.

2 youth players is NOT a substantial risk. At MK Dons, where Dele Alli also came from, Karl Robinson remarked on Lewis Baker as 'the most hardworking player he's ever met'. He's literally the profile of player we've been crying out for, along with Ake in that midfield area. Baker was an ever present last season for Vitesse. Yes, RLC is a gamble compared to those two; but we'll only find out one way and we have many other options if that particular experiment fails.

It's not like we're fielding our whole damn youth team. I just see absolutely no gain in buying mediocre players when we could make some world class ones ourselves.

A good experienced RB, though, maybe wouldn't go amiss. Lichtsteiner actually would be a good addition imo, that creates a balanced side.

 

I see where you're coming from now. I agree that RLC, Baker and Ake should be part of the squad next season btw. Not as sutomatic starters though (maybe apart from Ake). I also agree that we shouldn't but average players when we have these lads in the team who'd be able to fill those sort of roles easily. 

What we need to get correct this summer is buying actual players that'll walk into the first XI (in the right positions). If we do that and bring back our more talented youngsters from loan, it would be a successful summer. 

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

3 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

I see where you're coming from now. I agree that RLC, Baker and Ake should be part of the squad next season btw. Not as sutomatic starters though (maybe apart from Ake). I also agree that we shouldn't but average players when we have these lads in the team who'd be able to fill those sort of roles easily. 

What we need to get correct this summer is buying actual players that'll walk into the first XI (in the right positions). If we do that and bring back our more talented youngsters from loan, it would be a successful summer. 

Hell, I'd be chipper about even Baker and Ake comng into the fold. Not sure about RLC; I think we should give him a run of games, first 5 perhaps, and make a judgment then. Having those midfielders + Matic, Mikel gives us a lot of rotational options.

Yes, like I say Lichtsteiner is a short term solution to a long term problem of the squad. Azpilicueta is only good for us in a certain niche and that niche is on the left side (which is the reason why he will never feature extensively for his national side). Furthermore, Baba imo is simply not good enough and our fullbacks cannot wait any longer - it's the biggest weakness in the team for me. Purchasing him gives us time to sort it out. Could Aina be the solution? Dasilva? Baba (with a top flight loan spell)?

It's one of the few positions where we don't already have a pool of talent, so imo we'll have to look to the market to solve that problem. Carvajal might be worth looking at. Or we could revisit turning Willian into an RB

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3 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

Hell, I'd be chipper about even Baker and Ake comng into the fold. Not sure about RLC; I think we should give him a run of games, first 5 perhaps, and make a judgment then. Having those midfielders + Matic, Mikel gives us a lot of rotational options.

Yes, like I say Lichtsteiner is a short term solution to a long term problem of the squad. Azpilicueta is only good for us in a certain niche and that niche is on the left side (which is the reason why he will never feature extensively for his national side). Furthermore, Baba imo is simply not good enough and our fullbacks cannot wait any longer - it's the biggest weakness in the team for me. Purchasing him gives us time to sort it out. Could Aina be the solution? Dasilva? Baba (with a top flight loan spell)?

It's one of the few positions where we don't already have a pool of talent, so imo we'll have to look to the market to solve that problem. Carvajal might be worth looking at. Or we could revisit turning Willian into an RB

 

There is no way he would  move from Champions league champions,his home-grown club where he had a good season...But yes I agree,right back is our biggest problem.

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Henrikh Mkhitaryan in no rush to pen Borussia Dortmund contract extension

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Henrikh Mkhitaryan's agent has played down talk of a contract extension for the Borussia Dortmund midfielder, sparking rumours of a potential summer move.

"Why should we extend now? Micki (Mkhitaryan) still has a contract until 2017 and we'll continue thinking about his future after that," Mkhitaryan's agent Mino Raiola told German daily Bild.

With Dortmund's captain Mats Hummels having already signed for rivals Bayern Munich next season, Dortmund have been trying to tie down Mkhitaryan and Ilkay Gundogan, who is tipped to join Manchester City, on long-term deals.Mats Hummels will join Bayern Munich this summerDortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke refused to comment on the situation with Mkhitaryan.The Armenian international has had a stellar season at Dortmund, scoring 18 goals and creating another 20 in all competitions, as Borussia finished second only to Bayern in the Bundesliga.The 27-year-old netted a hat-trick for Armenia on Sunday in their 7-1 victory over Guatemala, and had a hand in six of their goals, with their next international on Thursday against El Salvador.Raiola reportedly wants a double exit clause put into Mkhitaryan's contract allowing him to leave if current coach Thomas Tuchel departs or if there is an offer from a top club.

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Chelsea chief scout Piet de Visser: "Chelsea will have a VERY busy summer." (Algemeen Dagblad)

Piet de Visser: "Abramovich is desperate not to have another terrible season. I'll be as busy as I was in 2003-2008."

Piet de Visser: "A lot of new players will arrive this summer (at Chelsea)."