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Well in that case selling Luiz and Ramires should bring in about 55m and there's lots of other players on loan that can be sold like Moses and Romeu.

Yes Balotelli! How long would he be willing to play for a team not in the CL, and he did say he wanted to work with Mourinho again. Aside from his attitude (admittedly a big problem) he's the perfect forward for us - has it all with his peak still awaiting. Besides in the CL I assume Mourinho will wanting to be playing counter attacking football against the likes of Bayern and Madrid - isn't Costa, the only viable alternative, too slow for that and plus how can anyone be sure that he won't be a £32m flop that's just had one good season?

Aside from his attitude.....It's amazing how people are willing to excuse the most important aspect of a sportsman's makeup.

Costa might be a flop but I think he could fit the system. The other option is perhaps Cavani who excelled in a counter-attacking system in Napoli and is not being played in his preferred position in Paris.

[didierforever 7,349]

in - cavani, shaw

out - torres, BA,etoo, moses, marin, kakuta, cole, cech/courtois, mikel

squad -

GK - cech/courtois, blackman

DEF - azpi,iva, JT,DL,GC,zouma, shaw,bertand

DM - rambo, matic,lamps, romeu, mvg

AM - oscar, willian, hazard, schurrle, salah, traore

ST- cavani, lukaku

simply cant take a decision on cech/courtois. head says one, heart says another. jose will have my full support for this decision cos this one is a big one.

[The Chels 2,502]

Aside from his attitude.....It's amazing how people are willing to excuse the most important aspect of a sportsman's makeup.

Costa might be a flop but I think he could fit the system. The other option is perhaps Cavani who excelled in a counter-attacking system in Napoli and is not being played in his preferred position in Paris.

Also with regard to the whole FFP thing I can just see us selling some of our best assets like Luiz to fund signings whilst teams like PSG and Man City continue to gain huge revenue through being sponsored by their owners' other companies and buy without having to sell, and without being challenged by Platini. Does anyone really believe he will stand up to his beloved PSG and Monaco? He likely then won't challenge Man City either.

A player's attitude can change as they mature although I admit it would be a big risk to the dressing room harmony to bring in Balotelli. He's just too good not to take a risk on though, surely? He can hold up the ball, work well in a counter attacking system, be intricate in tight spaces - and he's only 23! I do think Costa would be a flop but that Cavani would be a brilliant asset. No way are PSG selling though, unless they suddenly and miraculously start adhering to FFP.

DM - rambo, matic,lamps, romeu, mvg

That set of midfielders is not good enough IMO if we want to be serious challengers in both the Premier League and Champions League. Lampard is too old, and MVG/Romeu are not ready enough. Because Matic does lack mobility somewhat, I think Ramires would be a good partner to him but he is too technically inept and wreckless defensively. Replace him with Pogba and that's a midfield!

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I'll probably edit this a few times but let's see.

IN - Shaw, Striker (Cavani, Rooney, Costa)

OUT - Luiz, Cech, Mikel, Bertrand, Van Aanholt, Moses, Marin, Cole, Ba, Torres (probably dreaming on that one)

GOALKEEPERS - Courtois, Schwarzer, Blackman, Hilario's corpse.

DEFENDERS - Azpilicueta, Ivanovic, Kalas, Terry, Cahill, Zouma, Shaw, Ake

DEFENSIVE MIDS - Lampard, Matic, Ramires, Romeu, Chalobah, Van Ginkel

ATTACKING MIDS - Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Schurrle, Salah, Piazon

STRIKERS - Shiny new one, Lukaku, Etoo

Plenty of other youngsters to be decided on (Bamford, McEachran, Kane, Omeruo being the main ones) and could see us getting another DM but that to me a is a squad that can compete.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Alright, so we're going to go into next season with 2 CB's who haven't played a single minute of PL football, never.

Also, Shaw only LB

[Mr_President 404]

I'll probably edit this a few times but let's see.

IN - Shaw, Striker (Cavani, Rooney, Costa)

OUT - Luiz, Cech, Mikel, Bertrand, Van Aanholt, Moses, Marin, Cole, Ba, Torres (probably dreaming on that one)

GOALKEEPERS - Courtois, Schwarzer, Blackman, Hilario's corpse.

DEFENDERS - Azpilicueta, Ivanovic, Kalas, Terry, Cahill, Zouma, Shaw, Ake

DEFENSIVE MIDS - Lampard, Matic, Ramires, Romeu, Chalobah, Van Ginkel

ATTACKING MIDS - Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Schurrle, Salah, Piazon

STRIKERS - Shiny new one, Lukaku, Etoo

Plenty of other youngsters to be decided on (Bamford, McEachran, Kane, Omeruo being the main ones) and could see us getting another DM but that to me a is a squad that can compete.

Pretty much this but if I wanted to be really picky and 'spoiled' then I would say that I'm still concerned about our CM position.. the much talked about 'pivot' - a word I have come to loathe after reading this site for 3 years or so.

I think Matic will be a top player for us in that role, despite some wayward passes in his last couple of games. My concern is with Ramires, who would presumably partner him... He is great for us but IMO is one of the most limited players I have ever watched from a technical point of view. His moment of brilliance at the Camp Nou aside. I just feel that to be a really top team, ie serious CL contenders, we need someone who can dictate the play and control the ball a lot better in the centre of the park. I am in no way advocating the selling of Ramires and he has been fantastic for us in the last few seasons, but certain game situations require a bit more composure on the ball and a little less 'just run your arse off'.

Again, I am probably doing Ramires a disservice here because he has a great 'engine' and does a lot of dirty work for the team, but then so do players like Oscar, WIllian and Hazard.. yet they can keep control of the ball a lot better. It is just something that grates me whilst watching Chelsea matches.

Not sure if Eto'o will stick around either.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Just because we sold to buy players this January window doesn't mean we have to do the same in the summer. Pretty sure we've got money set aside for the summer.

We'll get rid of some unneeded squad players like Ba, Moses, Marin, Kakuta etc. which will generate funds for Luke Shaw (plus the leftover money from January) and then we'll have a set amount of money we can spend this summer on a world class striker.

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Just because we sold to buy players this January window doesn't mean we have to do the same in the summer. Pretty sure we've got money set aside for the summer.

We'll get rid of some unneeded squad players like Ba, Moses, Marin, Kakuta etc. which will generate funds for Luke Shaw (plus the leftover money from January) and then we'll have a set amount of money we can spend this summer on a world class striker.

There's always money to spend, but Mourinho hasn't been reluctant to strip dead wood and bring in players who are capable of contributing to the way he wants to play.

[Jype 6,398]

Just because we sold to buy players this January window doesn't mean we have to do the same in the summer. Pretty sure we've got money set aside for the summer.

We'll get rid of some unneeded squad players like Ba, Moses, Marin, Kakuta etc. which will generate funds for Luke Shaw (plus the leftover money from January) and then we'll have a set amount of money we can spend this summer on a world class striker.

Exactly. Getting rid of the deadwood players you mentioned can potentially fetch the club somewhere around £15-20m on top of the £10m left over from January and let's not forget the situations with Cech / Courtois and Mikel / Romeu. One of the goalkeepers is bound to go, either it will be Courtois for around £25m or Cech for something like £8m. I reckon one of the DMs will be kept and the other moved on but both should be valued around the 10 million mark so it makes no significant difference financially, just comes down to Jose's personal preference.

Add all these together and we should be looking at a figure between £45-65m, depending on the outcome of the goalie situation and on how much we get for the fringe players. Either way the club will be getting a lot of money to spend and considering how freely we have bought players in the past even without sales we can easily afford to splash the cash in the summer. There's absolutely no reason to sell players like Luiz to be able to improve the squad.

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There's absolutely no reason to sell players like Luiz to be able to improve the squad.

If you can improve the squad by selling him, then that's precisely the reason to let him go.

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I think we only need a left back(play Cesar in his best position ahead of Ivanovic) and a World Class Striker in the summer.

I just hope there is no more wasted effort to sign an over the hill player like Looney. Players like Cavani and Suarez should be the main targets with the likes of Costa; Balotelli; Sturridge; Rossi; Mandžukić; Doumbia as back up options.

For a left back we've been heavily linked with Luke Shaw, we do have a couple of left backs on loan like Bertrand(who Jose didn't seem to rate) and Patrick van Aanholt(who has been one of the best player for Vitesse) who could serve as back ups or compete with Shaw if we sign him.

[The Skipper 20,593]

There's always money to spend, but Mourinho hasn't been reluctant to strip dead wood and bring in players who are capable of contributing to the way he wants to play.

As Jype said above, there are other players we can sell to raise funds.

I know Luiz isn't having a fantastic season but to say he's dead wood isn't true. Luiz's problems has nothing to do with not fitting in Mourinho's system.

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As Jype said above, there are other players we can sell to raise funds.

I know Luiz isn't having a fantastic season but to say he's dead wood isn't true. Luiz's problems has nothing to do with not fitting in Mourinho's system.

It's not just about raising funds though. It's effective management of assets. If you can get £30 million for a player who isn't an integral part of your starting XI then it makes sense to cash in, especially when you have young players with potential behind players like Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic.

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Also with regard to the whole FFP thing I can just see us selling some of our best assets like Luiz to fund signings whilst teams like PSG and Man City continue to gain huge revenue through being sponsored by their owners' other companies and buy without having to sell, and without being challenged by Platini. Does anyone really believe he will stand up to his beloved PSG and Monaco? He likely then won't challenge Man City either.

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A player's attitude can change as they mature although I admit it would be a big risk to the dressing room harmony to bring in Balotelli. He's just too good not to take a risk on though, surely? He can hold up the ball, work well in a counter attacking system, be intricate in tight spaces - and he's only 23! I do think Costa would be a flop but that Cavani would be a brilliant asset. No way are PSG selling though, unless they suddenly and miraculously start adhering to FFP.

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That set of midfielders is not good enough IMO if we want to be serious challengers in both the Premier League and Champions League. Lampard is too old, and MVG/Romeu are not ready enough. Because Matic does lack mobility somewhat, I think Ramires would be a good partner to him but he is too technically inept and wreckless defensively. Replace him with Pogba and that's a midfield!

Pogba - matic will be so fantastic height, power, energy and technique in the pivot. If ramires could improve his passing, we won't be discussing this area but sadly that's not the case. Jose might not mind leaving ramires there though.

Acmilan look very unlikely to qualify for champs league. (Meaning less money so they might sell) And I can't remember the last time balloteli had an incident. It seems like he is maturing like how suarez has been doing too. And he is tall for crosses, has a good technique, scores freekicks and can shoot from outside the box and score against 19th century tactics. Like you said he's also intricate in tight spaces.

Cavani/suarez would be my first choice striker though but very unlikely.

Dreaming of

pogba-matic

Willian-oscar-hazard

Cavani/Balloteli(with a cool head)

Is world class and people will fear us in the champs league once again

[The Chels 2,502]

Dreaming of

pogba-matic

Willian-oscar-hazard

Cavani/Balloteli(with a cool head)

Is world class and people will fear us in the champs league once again

Imagine if we had that team lining up against City tomorrow! I would actually be confident of winning there.

[pWneR 230]

We are currently in need of a striker, so sell Ba and some loanies that won't get played like Marin, Moses etc. and collect money for Cavani. I still don't get how didn't we get him in the summer, it was much easier to get him out of Napoli then, than from PSG now.

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[The Skipper 20,593]

It's not just about raising funds though. It's effective management of assets. If you can get £30 million for a player who isn't an integral part of your starting XI then it makes sense to cash in, especially when you have young players with potential behind players like Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic.

Effective management is knowing that Terry will retire soon and that Ivanovic is 30 later this month. We're definitely going to have to spend big on a new CB soon regardless.

Like I said before, I know Luiz isn't having the best of seasons but to say he automatically isn't in Mourinho's plans (when there's been many factors affecting why he isn't starting) is ridiculous IMO. You're writing him off far too soon I think.

[pWneR 230]

My thoughts about defense. Get new LB, offload Cole, get Bertrand to be a backup. Move Dave to RB spot, then move IvanoviÄ to CB. IvanoviÄ can be a backup for Dave, and can be played either as a starting CB or backup. He is good at defending and heading, just horrible at going forward. There is also Zouma who is IMO good enough to be atlest backup.

And there it is, backline problem solved

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