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[gary gordon 1,777]

No he isn't... at all. He's basically playing as a second striker for us; he sticks right next to the striker and rarely drops deep.

Mata on several occasions has to play ball out of our own half. We play a counter-attacking game of football, so the difference between a centre mid and an attacking mid are pretty similar in terms of positional play.

[gary gordon 1,777]

Even if they played 4-2-3-1 I'd take them three over our potential pivot. A combination of Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho is a better pivot than any combination of Ramires, Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Romeu and Van Ginkel (bit harsh on Van Ginkel as he has only just got here, but yeah).

Dembele and Sandro destroyed United before Sandro got injured.

We have better attacking midfielders no doubt, but in a 4-3-3 they have a superior starting midfield and in a 4-2-3-1 they have a superior pivot.

And our Midfield didn't?? If we had a half decent striker, we would have wiped them off the park.

[We Hate Scouse 10,291]

Even if they played 4-2-3-1 I'd take them three over our potential pivot. A combination of Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho is a better pivot than any combination of Ramires, Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Romeu and Van Ginkel (bit harsh on Van Ginkel as he has only just got here, but yeah).

Dembele and Sandro destroyed United before Sandro got injured.

We have better attacking midfielders no doubt, but in a 4-3-3 they have a superior starting midfield and in a 4-2-3-1 they have a superior pivot.

But that's just comparing our pivot with their whole midfield, which isn't really the best comparison. I think the point that GG was trying to make it that as a whole our midfield is better. Despite the fact that the front three are attacking midfield players, they still form part of the midfield.

[laeth 527]

But that's just comparing our pivot with their whole midfield, which isn't really the best comparison. I think the point that GG was trying to make it that as a whole our midfield is better. Despite the fact that the front three are attacking midfield players, they still form part of the midfield.

My original post was... their three man midfield of Dembele - Sandro - Paulinho was probably the best in the league and that I would replace Mikel, Ramires and Lampard with those three (which is a perfectly valid comparison)

GG then went on some weird tangent about Mata being a central midfielder (which he isn't) - he could never play as one of the three in a 4-3-3. Oscar is untested in the CM role; it may be that is is amazing there - but we don't know.

So my point still stands; their starting eleven three man midfield (I emphasize the three man part, as no one seems to be listening) - is better than ours... IMO.

[We Hate Scouse 10,291]

My original post was... their three man midfield of Dembele - Sandro - Paulinho was probably the best in the league and that I would replace Mikel, Ramires and Lampard with those three (which is a perfectly valid comparison)

GG then went on some weird tangent about Mata being a central midfielder (which he isn't) - he could never play as one of the three in a 4-3-3. Oscar is untested in the CM role; it may be that is is amazing there - but we don't know.

So my point still stands; their starting eleven three man midfield (I emphasize the three man part, as no one seems to be listening) - is better than ours... IMO.

I disagree. Why compare Mikel, Ramires and Lampard? How many times did they start together over the season. You cannot compare 3 of their first team starters to 3 rotation players, they're obviously going to look better. Mata may not be a CM, but I'd rather him in CM ahead of any of those 3 (Again the point GG was making.

Yes I agree their 4-3-3 formation compared to ours is better? They have the better midfield in the 4-3-3 formation. That's quite different to the best midfield in the league...

[laeth 527]

Because they are the most like-for-like players.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Spurs have one of the best midfields in the EPL now. Arsenal and Spurs both have a better midfield than us. We need one more holding mid to get back to the best mid imo.

[Manilla Brawler 23]

Your the idiot that said you would swap them for Mikel, Lampard and Ramires, who correct me if I'm wrong, but all played either in the DM role or sat on the bench last season. Paulinho is your typical box-to-box MF similar to Ramires, but a better attacker then defender.

Dembele is a CM, would you swap him for Mata??

The two idiots that liked your post are as clueless as you.

He correctly called you out for calling dembele and paulinho a dm. I dont think they have the better midfield, I wouldnt swap our midfield with theirs, but calling dembele and paulinho dm's is not correct. You yourself explained in this post that they are not dm's.

The fact that you needed to attack the people who liked his post tells everything about you. Tired of seeing people call others idiots for not having the same opinions, cant see a bright future when kids are being taught by people like these.

[gary gordon 1,777]

He correctly called you out for calling dembele and paulinho a dm. I dont think they have the better midfield, I wouldnt swap our midfield with theirs, but calling dembele and paulinho dm's is not correct. You yourself explained in this post that they are not dm's.

The fact that you needed to attack the people who liked his post tells everything about you. Tired of seeing people call others idiots for not having the same opinions, cant see a bright future when kids are being taught by people like these.

Your kidding right?? was i the one that said i would swap Ramires (Although he can be used in attack is a much better dm) Mikel (defensive mid) and Lampard (recently been in a CM/DM role) for Dembele, Sandro and PAulinho. So who was calling them defending mids??? Wasn't me! I simply asked if he would swap Hazard, Mata and Oscar for the 3 yids he was wanking over.

[Manilla Brawler 23]

Your kidding right?? was i the one that said i would swap Ramires (Although he can be used in attack is a much better dm) Mikel (defensive mid) and Lampard (recently been in a CM/DM role) for Dembele, Sandro and PAulinho. So who was calling them defending mids??? Wasn't me! I simply asked if he would swap Hazard, Mata and Oscar for the 3 yids he was wanking over.

I agree with you that i wouldnt trade ramires mikel and lampard with those 3 as well. And judging from what he wrote, seems like he was only talking about our pivot players and didnt count mata oscar and hazard as a 'cm'. I was just mentioning you saying "So you would play with 3 defensive MF's? Good luck with that.." was incorrect. Unless you meant something else by it.

[laeth 527]

Your kidding right?? was i the one that said i would swap Ramires (Although he can be used in attack is a much better dm) Mikel (defensive mid) and Lampard (recently been in a CM/DM role) for Dembele, Sandro and PAulinho. So who was calling them defending mids??? Wasn't me! I simply asked if he would swap Hazard, Mata and Oscar for the 3 yids he was wanking over.

This whole post pretty much sums up how much of total idiot you are. God I hate football fans.

[DanishBlue 426]

Quick question: do you guys think that our midfield would be better than Spurs if we bought DDR?

[edenhazard17 281]

Barca have the best midfielder and striker in the world, and they even can't beat us. Leave alone Spurs.

[JDY 1,290]

Quick question: do you guys think that our midfield would be better than Spurs if we bought DDR?

Nope. Potentially maybe, but not now.

[Special Juan 27,597]

Quick question: do you guys think that our midfield would be better than Spurs if we bought DDR?

de Rossi on his own is better than anything spurs have. Paulinho is a good player but he is being massively over hyped IMO.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Quick question: do you guys think that our midfield would be better than Spurs if we bought DDR?

if we'll play Oscar-De Rossi-KDB, i think it can be deadly. But we should see... Spurs midfield really lacks creativity through.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

De rossi

Oscar MVG/KDB

This is potentially a very tasty midfield.

[Hamilton 2,120]

Nacer Chadli prefers a move to England, Swansea allready got an offer rejected for the Belgian winger. Tottenham and Liverpool are also interested.

He also got offers from Locomotive Moscow and Shaktar Donetsk but doesn't really want to move there.

He got one year left on his contract.