Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[LAM09 6,751]

I wonder where Eriksen will end up because for sure if he will be sold in January. 

Who will want someone that's cup-tied?

I can see Juve working their magic again for another free agent.

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1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

Who will want someone that's cup-tied?

I can see Juve working their magic again for another free agent.

Barca did with Coutinho. 

Eriksen is a valuable asset to have 

[LAM09 6,751]

Barca did with Coutinho. 
Eriksen is a valuable asset to have 

Coutinho wasn't a free agent 6 months later.

Eriksen isn't going to elevate top teams, so they'll happily wait to save £20-30m.

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5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Who will want someone that's cup-tied?

I can see Juve working their magic again for another free agent.

Cup tied rule doesn't exist anymore. Probably for year or two now. 

Yeah, after Rabiot and Ramsey watch Juve next summer gets Eriksen, DDG and Willian for free. 

[LAM09 6,751]

Cup tied rule doesn't exist anymore. Probably for year or two now. 

I'm surprised I missed that. Shock horror to see it happen after Coutinho was signed. [emoji1]

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6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Cup tied rule doesn't exist anymore. Probably for year or two now. 

Yeah, after Rabiot and Ramsey watch Juve next summer gets Eriksen, DDG and Willian for free. 

one of the best run clubs in the world

why pay for WC talent when they (and Bayern) get it for free

NOT counting Willian as WC btw, lolol

every time I see him now mentioned as leaving on a free I am in a new rage over that fucking £65m turn-down to Barca

The board has literally cocked up hundreds of millions in lost sale valuations in just the last several years

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[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Cup tied rule doesn't exist anymore. Probably for year or two now. 

Yeah, after Rabiot and Ramsey watch Juve next summer gets Eriksen, DDG and Willian for free. 

I remember that there was talk of dropping the cup tied rule but it is still (back?) in this season's uefa competition regulations. It is regulation 43.06 on page 41 of the 2019/2020 Champion's League regulations. Dont know where it is in the Europa League regs but it will be there somewhere, because the regulation mentions both competitions.

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post window reconnoitre

biggest players up for grabs in either January (doubtful for most) or next summer (some are getting so sick of their clubs, especially PSG and Spuds, who may be decimated, YAY!)

some of these are on loan with OPTION to buy, not obligation, some are too old to interest me (KK and Alex Sandro for instance) given the price that will be demanded

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LIVE Transfer Talk: Juve ready to move for De Gea as Man United eye Oblak

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/blog-transfer-talk/story/3937102/live-transfer-talk-juve-ready-to-move-for-de-gea-as-man-united-eye-oblak

TOP STORY: De Gea to Juventus; Oblak to Man United?

With his contract extension talks seemingly at a standstill, David De Gea may be lured away from Manchester United by Serie A champions Juventus.

According to the Daily Express, Juventus are monitoring De Gea's status at Old Trafford, and could convince the Spain No. 1 leave on a free at the end of the season if United can't get him to commit by January.

As everyone fondly recalls, De Gea would have left Manchester for Real Madrid in 2015 -- if not for a malfunctioning fax machine that torpedoed the deal in the waning moments.

Should De Gea depart for Turin, then Manchester United have already identified his successor -- Atletico Madrid shot-stopper Jan Oblak.

A source had told ESPN FC back in June that Oblak would prefer an exit to United if he were to leave Madrid, so time will tell that interest rekindles in the coming months.

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I would take Oblak over any other keeper in the world, so this SUCKS if Manure grabs him

no clue why Juve doesnt just go for him, I suppose it is De Gea's contract winding down

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Some Barça stars offered up their own money to sign Neymar this summer

https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/barca/some-barca-stars-offered-up-their-own-money-to-sign-neymar-this-summer-7623855

One of the most senior ranking members of the FC Barcelona squad let Josep Maria Bartomeu know that signing Neymar was a must if they were to win the Champions League. It was a belief shared by many others in the dressing room who all had their say as negotiations were ongoing with PSG.

Some of the players were even willing to part with their own money to help pay for the costly transfer, such was the desire to bring Neymar 'home'. The board didn't take that offer under consideration, and some of the squad weren't even aware of it, but it was done to demonstrate how well liked Neymar is by certain players in the changing room. 

It's extremely possible with the €20m Neymar was willing to put in, alongside that of the players, a deal could have been struck with PSG. However, the board only valued a transfer if it made sense on the financial side of things. Some board members called it "absolutely crazy" if they accepted all the demands. So this gesture from certain squad members was dismissed.

However, not everyone was on board with the Brazilian's return. There's a danger of a rift developing between those on the side of Neymar and those who are firmly behind Griezmann. Right now, there aren't any issues between the two parties but Lionel Messi, alongside his fellow captains, must ensure this doesn't develop into anything serious. In recent years the changing room has been a welcoming place, helped by a coach who is respected by everyone at the club and no one wants that to change.

Vicente del Bosque gave his opinion on Neymar and how, if he was in charge of a major club, he wouldn't have signed Neymar either. "Without any doubt he's a great footballer and his arrival would've been really good for LaLiga, but he did some bad - really bad - things at Barça." There isn't much more to say...

 

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Man Utd eye Edwin van der Sar Old Trafford return as director of football

EXCLUSIVE: The Dutchman could be set for a comeback at the Theatre of Dreams as part of the club's hierarchy

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-eye-edwin-van-19849323

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Real Madrid Make Kylian Mbappe Their Top Transfer Target in Plans for Next Summer

https://www.90min.com/posts/6449808-real-madrid-make-kylian-mbappe-their-top-transfer-target-in-plans-for-next-summer

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YEah can totally see RM go for the kill regarding Mbappe, they dont fuck around like some others. And looks like Pep will go all in for Skriener in Jan. The ban fucking us over more and more each day.

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2 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

YEah can totally see RM go for the kill regarding Mbappe, they dont fuck around like some others. And looks like Pep will go all in for Skriener in Jan. The ban fucking us over more and more each day.

I wonder if Jovic will be part of that PSG deal?

they are mad as ass if they dump him out, UNLESS (and let this happen!) they also go for KANE(Benzema turns 33 next season)

those 2 alone will cost close to £400m

so they will so have to liquidate a lot

they are fucked with CB depth, Ramos is a shell of his peak self

after that they only have Raphaël Varane and Éder Militão, Nacho is shit and and will turn 31 in the middle of next season, they do get Jesús Vallejo back from his Wolves loan, who is not RM starting quality anyway but can provide depth, so they surely have to go BIG for WC CB as well, which pushes expenditure up to near half a billion

they do have a LOT to unload

they have an insane overload at LW (FIVE)

they may sell 3 

Eden Hazard   
Vinícius Júnior    
Marco Asensio   
Rodrygo  
Brahim Díaz    

 they also have (for possible sale)

AMF
James Rodríguez   

Isco

CMF

Ceballos (Arse will probably want him, he looks class)

RW (but need to replace these as they are the only 2 RW they have)
Gareth Bale   
Lucas Vázquez  

they also have THREE staring level RB's (so will sell one)

Daniel Carvajal   
Álvaro Odriozola    

Ashraf Hakimi (back from his two year loan at Borussia Dortmund)

also

LB
Marcelo    will surely be sold (as they have Sergio Reguilón coming back from his Sevilla loan to backup Ferland Mendy)

Modric leaves on a free so they also have to replace him

and I think they also sell Cuntois and Navas and buy Alphonse Areola perm (and make a play for De gea, battle with Juve, as either can get him for free)

lets do a tally

Sell

Cuntois, Navas, Nacho, Marcelo, Hakimi, James, Asensio, Diaz, Bale, Lucas Vázquez, Jovic ,and Ceballos  yields around £550m in revenue

Buy

Mbappe, Kane, Koulibaly, Pogba, WC RW (to back up Mbappe or start when Mbappe is played as a CF, I think they go for Mikel Oyarzabal), Alphonse Areola (and lets just assume they get De Gea on a free) at MAX that is £725-750m (maybe a wee bit less)

so a £175-200m max net spend

which they easily can pull off

no Kane (and keep Jovic)  and you are down to only £100m or so net spend MAX

 

lets say they do get Kane

yields a team (I will fill in the names for the CB, MF and RW) of

 

GK De Gea

GK Areola

GK Andriy Lunin

CB Raphaël Varane

CB Kalidou Koulibaly (I can see them paying the price the poson dwarf will want

CB Éder Militão

CB Ramos (cunt)

CB Jesús Vallejo

LB Ferland Mendy

LB Sergio Reguilón

RB Daniel Carvajal

RB Álvaro Odriozola

DMF Casemiro

CMF Toni Kroos    

CMF Pogba

CMF Federico Valverde

AMF Isco  

AMF Martin Ödegaard

LW Eden Hazard   

LW Vinícius Júnior 

LW Rodrygo

RW Mbappe (and can play CF and LW too)

RW Mikel Oyarzabal (can play both wings)

CF Kane

CF Mariano Díaz  

 

scary arse team IF they can pull that shit off, vastly better than they are now

 

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That would be a scary ass team Vesper......and if they wanted they could pull it off, or most of it anyway.

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CIES Football Observatory Monthly Report
n°47 - September 2019

Financial analysis of the transfer market in the big-5 European leagues (2010-2019)

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/mr/mr47/en/

1. Introduction

Since its creation in 2005, the CIES Football Observatory has been monitoring the transfer of players through information published by clubs and the media. The 47th edition of the Monthly Report analyses from a financial perspective paid transactions having taken place since 2010 which involved teams from the five major European championships: the English Premier League, the Spanish Liga, the German Bundesliga, the Italian Serie A and the French Ligue 1..

In four chapters, the study analyses the sums paid in transfer indemnities by big-5 league teams, the clubs and championships who benefited from these investments, the net balance sheets for both teams and leagues, as well as inflation observed year by year since 2010. The latter is calculated on the basis of the exclusive CIES Football Observatory transfer value algorithm.

The figures published in this report include fixed indemnities for permanent transfers, eventual add-ons, as well as sums invested for paying loans. The amounts paid in the case of loans with an obligation to buy are computed for the year of the transfer. Within the limits of the information available, the data on the beneficiaries take into account the resale percentages negotiated by former clubs.

2. Investments

A new record for spending was recorded in 2019: €6.6 billion. This sum is almost a 10% increase over the previous record of 2017. In ten years, the investments in transfer indemnities carried out by big-5 league clubs have grown by more than four times. In only two cases, in 2012 and 2018, were the amounts paid out less than those for the preceding year.

Figure 1: big-5 league club transfer fee investments

€ million

In 2019, a new spending record was established in three of the leagues studied: the Liga, the Serie A and the Bundesliga. As for the previous nine years, English clubs invested the most for the recruitment of new players: €1.9 billion. Over the last decade, transfer indemnity investments of Premier League teams accounted for 35.8% of the total measured for the big-5. This proportion has decreased since two years in line with the decision to close the summer transfer window before the opening of the season.

Figure 2: transfer fee investments by league

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The rankings of clubs having invested the most in transfer fees since 2010 demonstrate the incredible financial clout of a handful of dominant teams. While no club has spent as much as Manchester City, eight other teams have invested more than a billion euro over ten years. All of the Champions League finalists since 2005 are part of the twenty teams having spent the most over the past decade.

Figure 3: transfer fee investments by club (2010-2019)

€ million

In 2019, three Spanish teams were at the top of the rankings for clubs having spent the most on transfer indemnities. This finding reflects a cyclical need for squad renewal, but also the availability of considerable financial possibilities linked to the establishment of the Spanish top division as the second most powerful league on the planet after the English Premier League.

Figure 4: transfer fee investments by club (2019)

€ million

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much more at the link

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He has to stop taking people for fools’: Fekir’s ex-agent slams him for Liverpool transfer claims

‘He has to stop this show and stop taking people for fools’: Nabil Fekir’s ex-agent slams forward for Liverpool transfer claims and insists his knee problems caused the move to collapse

http://www.sportnews.to/2019/09/he-has-to-stop-taking-people-for-fools-fekirs-ex-agent-slams-him-for-liverpool-transfer-claims/

Nabil Fekir’s former agent has rubbished claims from the French player that Liverpool ‘lied’ about why the potential transfer was culled last summer.

Fekir underwent a customary medical at Liverpool in the summer of 2018, but the European champions pulled the plug on the deal after problems with his knee surfaced.

The French winger, who made a shock move to Real Betis in July, rubbished those claims, saying ‘lots of lies were told’, but his agent at the time Jean-Pierre Bernes stated there were no lies on Liverpool’s part.

Nabil Fekir claimed there were ‘lots of lies’ told by Liverpool in their reasoning not to sign him.  

Fekir stayed at Lyon for one more season before joining Real Betis in June for £22million

Speaking to French outlet L’Equipe, Bernes said: ‘He has to stop this show and stop taking people for fools. Everyone knows what happened.

‘The transfer to Liverpool has turned around for two reasons. The first is his knee, even though the English club’s leaders were willing to make an effort on this.

‘The second is the appearance of a foreign pseudo-representative who asked for the negotiations to be resumed from the beginning at the moment of signing.

‘Between this episode and the medical visit, Liverpool’s leaders decided to abandon the case.’

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