Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

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West Ham’s £45 million deal for Maxi Gomez falls through

https://thetopflight.com/2019/07/09/west-ham-lose-valencia-maxi-gomez-race/

Despite being on the verge of breaking their club record fee for the player, West Ham’s move for Maxi Gomez is off, due to issues with payment structure.

West Ham’s lengthy pursuit of Celta Vigo’s Maxi Gomez felt like one of those deals that was bound to happen at some point or another during the summer. They’ve held concrete interest in the Uruguayan since the January window, and the departure of Marko Arnautovic to the Chinese Super League even opened up a clear path for Maxi Gomez to claim the #9 spot at the London Stadium.

However, recent developments have seen this deal, which at one point looked almost certain to happen for £45 million, come crashing down – this reportedly has to do with an inability for the 2 clubs to agree a payment structure.

 

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we dodged a bullet there

 

West Ham resigned to losing out to Valencia in Maxi Gómez race

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/09/west-ham-lose-out-valencia-maxi-gomez-celta-vigo

 

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Real Madrid lose patience with Gareth Bale and issue an ultimatum

The Welsh winger refuses to abandon the club and Madrid have now threatened to leave him in the stands for a season

https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/real-madrid/real-madrid-lose-patience-with-gareth-bale-and-issue-an-ultimatum-7529305

Real Madrid's patience with Gareth Bale is wearing thin. The Welsh winger is on the list of 'unwanted stars' drafted up by the club and Zinedine Zidane but refuses to budge. His lack of movement in finding a new club is beginning to make those in Madrid feel anxious. Right now, they don't want him to join up with the first team squad.

The club is so determined to force Bale out they are willing to let him spend a season in the stands or, at best, on the bench. With Eden Hazard, Jovic and Rodrygo all joining Madrid they can easily get by without Bale's contribution. This is alongside Vinicius, Brahim, Asensio and Benzema who were already at the club before the new faces came in. Bale would not even travel to the United States for the International Champions Cup fixtures against Arsenal, Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich.

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Kylian Mbappé

is not going to renew at PSG

we should grab him next summer

NOT joking

especially if CHO fucks us

if we dumped Alonso, Bakayoko, and Drinkwater

plus sell CHO (if he refuses to renew)

and then just add in the Eden and Morata cash

that, just from those 6, is around £305-315m or so

and still leaves us a shit tonne to sell next summer (granted some we get fuckall for compared to if we had sold them in summer 2018)

Moses

Willian

Bats (probably)

Happy (if he is meh this season)

Pedro

Luiz

Zappacosta

Baba

Kenedy

van Ginkel

plus £50m or so in other liquidations from loan army (the limits are coming)

just from that is around £235-245m more

 

add that to the other £305-315m

 

we will have £550m or so to play with (even if I am off by 10%, still half a BILLION QUID net cash to go out reek havoc with

Mbappe deffo can be had and we would still have £250m to 300m MORE to spend without Roman coughing up a fiver on top

that means  we can still buy

World class

CB

LB

Striker

and 2 more wingers (1 if CHO stays, then maybe look at another CB)

that 5 (on top of Mbappe) could all be done TOP notch

for around £300m or so

if no Mbappe, then it is even more to spread out, a LOT more, and we would not have to liquidate every single one on that list in one window to still get to a massive , truly massive transfer budget

we need to keep on liquidating players and build that war chest up up up for summer 2020

 

 

 

[1905didierblue 748]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Kylian Mbappé

is not going to renew at PSG

we should grab him next summer

NOT joking

especially if CHO fucks us

if we dumped Alonso, Bakayoko, and Drinkwater

plus sell CHO (if he refuses to renew)

and then just add in the Eden and Morata cash

that, just from those 6, is around £305-315m or so

and still leaves us a shit tonne to sell next summer (granted some we get fuckall for compared to if we hd sold them in summer 2018)

Moses

Willian

Bats (probably)

Happy (if he is meh this season)

Pedro

Luiz

Zappacosta

Baba

Kenedy

van Ginkel

plus £50m or so in other liquidations from loan army (the limits are coming)

just from that is around £235-245m more

 

add that to the other £305-315m

 

we will have £550m or so to play with (even if I am off by 10%, still half a BILLION QUID net cash to go out reek havoc with

Mbappe deffo can be had and we would still have £250m to 300m MORE to spend without Roman coughing up a fiver on top

that means  we can still buy

World class

CB

LB

Striker

and 2 more wingers (1 if CHO stays, then maybe look at another CB)

that 5 (on top of Mbappe) could all be done TOP notch

for around £300m or so

we need to keep on liquidating players and build that war chest up up up for summer 2020

 

 

 

Simple point: why would mbappe choose us over lets say, Real madrid. We can sell all of the squad, liquidate the club etc etc, but all of it is MOOT, unless the player himself looks at us as a viable option. 

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9 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

Simple point: why would mbappe choose us over lets say, Real madrid. We can sell all of the squad, liquidate the club etc etc, but all of it is MOOT, unless the player himself looks at us as a viable option. 

Sell him on the project and the city and the coach

I do grant that he will more than likely end up at Real or Shitty

but certainly we need to sell all thsoe players anyway (or already have)

and if Mbappe is not available, then the whole £550m or so is there to split up still

just go for even higher quality at every postition

do NOT piss it on a cunt like Coutinho

Dembele at a fair price would be intriguing

Jadon Sancho even (Pulisic would go mental, roflmaooooo)

for damn sure upgrade the back 4 and striker

we also need to scoop up the next ultra star MF, he just turned 17

I have been pushing him since he was 15, he now is up to 190cm and still growing

crazy skillz, physicality, etc  Ryan Gravenberch (Ajax)

I wish to fuck we bought him now and just left him to mature at Ajax

he is potentially like Pogba (better upside even) without the mental cuntishness

and to go back to the beginning

why not make a play for Mbappe

we are still one of the biggest clubs in the world

never settle

go for the gold

ZZ being the RM manager is also a massive barrier for us too

like Hazard, he was Mbappe idol growing up (probably not as much as Mbappe is so young but still)

I think big, NEVER small

it is not in my makeup to think small, never have, never will

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Aston Villa actualy paid 23m for Tyrone Mings. Haha what the fuck is wrong with these englisu clubs. 

You can get a very solid CB for that money but  they buy championship level CB that will suit them very well after this season when they return to championship.

[the wes 7,212]

55 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Aston Villa actualy paid 23m for Tyrone Mings. Haha what the fuck is wrong with these englisu clubs. 

You can get a very solid CB for that money but  they buy championship level CB that will suit them very well after this season when they return to championship.

English players are overpriced look at Drinkwater for example 

[the wes 7,212]

A source close to Wilfried Zaha says there are doubts about whether Arsenal can afford to sign him this summer.

Palace have rejected a £40m Arsenal bid and they value Zaha at closer to £100m.

We are told Palace would not be interested in taking players as part of a swap deal – that would only ever happen as a last resort.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 hours ago, the wes said:

English players are overpriced look at Drinkwater for example 

Exactly. But you must be an idiot to pay these fees.

[MoroccanBlue 5,408]

Piazon, Baker, Brown really haven't improved since they were 18 have they? 

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9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Piazon, Baker, Brown really haven't improved since they were 18 have they? 

SELL them all

wuthless

[the wes 7,212]

9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Piazon, Baker, Brown really haven't improved since they were 18 have they? 

No 

[the wes 7,212]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

SELL them all

wuthless

Baker as been the biggest let down I had high hopes for him at one point he's went down the same path as Josh mceachran 

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Revealed: When De Ligt to Juventus can be announced 

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/revealed-when-de-ligt-to-juventus-can-be-announced-41942

Italian Serie A giants Juventus are on the verge of completing the signing of Ajax highly-rated defender Matthijs de Ligt, as per La Gazzetta dello Sport, with the announcement arriving as early as in 48 hours.

The 19-year-old became the hottest property in the world of football after an inspirational season for the Dutch club where he has helped the team in qualifying for the UEFA Champions League semi-finals.

Since then, De Ligt has been linked with a move to numerous big clubs in Europe including FC Barcelona and Paris Saint Germain (PSG). However, the Dutch international finally agreed terms with the current Italian champions and it was confirmed by his agent Mino Raiola as well.

 

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Real Madrid are set to challenge Barcelona for Neymar's signature this summer, Sky Sports News understands.

Reports from Spain on Wednesday suggested Real Madrid president Florentino Perez is interested in bringing the PSG striker to the club.

It is claimed PSG officials have a stronger working relationship with Real Madrid than Barcelona, but no formal offers have been made at this stage.

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22 hours ago, the wes said:

Real Madrid are set to challenge Barcelona for Neymar's signature this summer, Sky Sports News understands.

Reports from Spain on Wednesday suggested Real Madrid president Florentino Perez is interested in bringing the PSG striker to the club.

It is claimed PSG officials have a stronger working relationship with Real Madrid than Barcelona, but no formal offers have been made at this stage.

If this is true. Rodrygo and vinicius can pretty much kiss their career goodbye if they stay in Real 

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Barcelona finally sign Griezmann, will Neymar be next? It's complicated

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/barcelona/story/3899070/barcelona-finally-sign-griezmannwill-neymar-be-next-its-complicated

As expected, there was a delivery at number 10 Calle Hernandez today. Just after 1 on Friday afternoon, a car will pull up outside the offices of La Liga in north-eastern Madrid -- a smart, seemingly ever-expanding building that stands above the A2 motorway heading from the capital to Catalonia -- and a man got out carrying €120m. His name is Sevan Karian, he greeted two other men, headed inside, and left. Soon after, there was an announcement: at long last, Antoine Griezmann is officially a Barcelona player.

A year on from the broadcasting of a documentary called "The Decision," in which Griezmann agonised over whether to stay at Atletico Madrid or join Barcelona, only to turn down the Camp Nou club, Griezmann is heading to Catalonia after all. Within months, he regretted that decision and has reversed it.

Barcelona had hoped to negotiate Griezmann's transfer, to pay the money in instalments, but in the end they have had to pay the buyout clause. They were always likely to: indeed, the buyout clause is the mechanism that has made all this possible: just as last year his clause temporarily fell to an eminently payable €100m, this year it dropped from €200m to €120m on July 1. It was an open invitation and Barcelona accepted it.

Paying it took a while, which was pretty silly as they had known they were going to do this for months and had always known that July 1 was the date. Barcelona had to gather up the money, get it signed off, prepare the paperwork and then help Griezmann do the delivery -- it is officially the player who buys himself out -- but it is done. Griezmann should be able to join the other Barcelona internationals in preseason training on Monday. Before that, there will be photos, thumbs up, and a few words. A presentation is penned in, but they're not sure when.

And then it will be on with work.

Which takes them to the next target: another man who turned them down a couple seasons ago. Turned them upside down, more like.

With Griezmann done, there are six long weeks ahead in the transfer window that might, just might, end with Neymar heading back to the Camp Nou. Which for now means: nothing.

Sit.

Wait.

Watch.

Think a bit, too. And there is a lot to think about.

Think back to 2017, and the last time a massive signing went the buy-out route; to the comedy scene of a lawyer in a bowtie and a straw hat travelling round Spain trying to give away €220m -- he went to Barcelona's offices before he went to the league's but they refused to see him -- to release Neymar from the Camp Nou. Think back to the Barcelona director claiming to be "200% sure" Neymar was staying. To Gerard Pique, the same Pique who (rightly) enjoys pointing out how the media publishes fake news, announcing: "he stays". Only for Neymar to go.

Think about the damage it did. It was a lot. They're still due their day in court, for a start: Neymar vs Barcelona (Neymar has taken his former club to court regarding the non-payment of a loyalty bonus). Their forward line was split days before the season started. It's easy to forget the mess that manager Ernesto Valverde inherited. And that's just the short term: Barcelona's succession plan, well, that was gone too. In pieces. Neymar was Messi's partner, but also his successor. Barcelona looked weak and really rather silly. They reacted by throwing money around. Time will tell, but so far it doesn't look that well spent.

But Barcelona overcame losing Neymar. Well, sort of. Two league titles, a combined 30-plus points ahead of Madrid, were tempered by two successive Champions League disasters which weigh heavily on their thinking.

Now Neymar, too, has changed his mind. He wants to come back; he regrets what he did and wants to reverse it. His best mates, Messi and Luis Suarez, would like him to return.

And it turns out that Paris Saint Germain aren't that keen on him anymore. They're talking like it was nothing to do with them. "No one obliged him to come," president Sheik Al Khelaifi said, which was true. "We didn't push him to," which wasn't quite so true. PSG have talked about "commitment" to the "project", about how they don't want "star behaviour", which was pretty much what their project of signing big stars like Neymar guaranteed. For the first time, they're talking about a player, the player, being able to go.

In fact, they seem to be trying to force it. Neymar didn't show for training, PSG said. And it is the "PSG said" part of that phrase that matters most. In a statement, Neymar's father responded by saying: no, he wasn't due to train until next week, and PSG knew that. This is out in the open, and a split shared is a split deepened. In all probability, this was a hand played.

PSG sporting director Leonardo's words the other day read like an invitation for Barcelona to come and get Neymar at the same time as an expression of his doubt that they can, a doubt which is entirely legitimate. Barcelona don't really have the money for this. They do, though, have doubts of their own. They didn't plan for this; this is an opportunity that arose. But it is one that brings its own problems, they know.

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[Special Juan 28,871]

Looks like Antonio Conte is getting the players he wanted at Chelsea, Barella confirmed now and Lukaku close.

[Yeboii 1,844]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Looks like Antonio Conte is getting the players he wanted at Chelsea, Barella confirmed now and Lukaku close.

Wasn't it Sarri who wanted Barella?

[Special Juan 28,871]

18 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

Wasn't it Sarri who wanted Barella?

Yep and also Conte, I know that as a friend of mine was very close to someone in the club and he wanted Barella.