Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

1 hour ago, Yeboii said:

For 500k the scouts are seeing something you don't.

Assuming that scouts working for any big clubs are recommending a move to acquire young billy, and assuming the clubs are  indeed offering  £500,000, then yes they must be. 

[Unionjack 7,532]

The pressure on the managers of the top clubs in PL (apart from the red north London team obviously) to win silverware must be enornous. So I can totally understand how their preference would be to buy in a skilled,finished player that he can trust to do the job he needs him to do.

IF we was a steady mid table club with no strong ambitions apart from putting out good football for the fans and maybe making up ne spot from previous season then we could take risks with bringing into the starting XI our young good talent.

But we cant make a serious strike for the CL with a team full of Mussonda,Ake,RLC,Chalobah,Brown,Andreas. Whereas if we was that mid table club I would be more than happy with them all as starters.

So Conte has to do all he can to try to please everyone. He brings back loanees to see how well they fit in. He brings in lads from the academy to reach HG figures and fit them in here n there. And he does his best to buy the best players he thinks will fit the positions we need upgrading.

And tho it makes me sad it will probably mean losing Happy, a player I've always loved, then I'm still behind Conte. He just wants whats best for THE TEAM.

[akgw13 867]

I think we are all aware of the rumours for who we want as a club to bring into our team. My question is who do we think will no longer be with us next year? I am just going to throw names out with some basic thoughts and am curious to here what people think. Obviously JT will be moving on so I didn't include him. 

Costa: I think he is gone, i dont want him to leave but Conte will want someone committed moving forward who is a good soldier, Diego will finally get his wish for a large fee i think.

Willian: I can't see him staying, bumped down the pecking order and Conte has made it known he wants to sign at least one attacker this summer. Could be sold for big cash to China or abroad in europe. If Mourinho wants to give us 50m i would let him go.

Bats: I think this will be a loan to a PL side, doesnt have contes trust, needs minutes.

Zouma: I pray its just a loan and hopefully to an Italian/German team who plays a similar style, I love happy but i fear for his place in the squad(especially if we bring in a CB and bring back Christensen)

RLC: PL Loan, mid table side, benefit us both in the long term.

Begovic: Was a good soldier, I respect he wants to play, sell him.

Matic: Would we move on from Matic if Conte gets the central midfield destroyer he wants(Bakayoko/Radja)? I dont think Fabregas is leaving anymore, and Conte seems to value Chalobah. For the right price would Conte sanction a sale?

 

[the wes 7,212]

12 minutes ago, akgw13 said:

I think we are all aware of the rumours for who we want as a club to bring into our team. My question is who do we think will no longer be with us next year? I am just going to throw names out with some basic thoughts and am curious to here what people think. Obviously JT will be moving on so I didn't include him. 

Costa: I think he is gone, i dont want him to leave but Conte will want someone committed moving forward who is a good soldier, Diego will finally get his wish for a large fee i think.

Willian: I can't see him staying, bumped down the pecking order and Conte has made it known he wants to sign at least one attacker this summer. Could be sold for big cash to China or abroad in europe. If Mourinho wants to give us 50m i would let him go.

Bats: I think this will be a loan to a PL side, doesnt have contes trust, needs minutes.

Zouma: I pray its just a loan and hopefully to an Italian/German team who plays a similar style, I love happy but i fear for his place in the squad(especially if we bring in a CB and bring back Christensen)

RLC: PL Loan, mid table side, benefit us both in the long term.

Begovic: Was a good soldier, I respect he wants to play, sell him.

Matic: Would we move on from Matic if Conte gets the central midfield destroyer he wants(Bakayoko/Radja)? I dont think Fabregas is leaving anymore, and Conte seems to value Chalobah. For the right price would Conte sanction a sale?

 

I totally agree every word u wrote there . But what players would u like to see come into the club in the summer?? 

[ulvhedin 526]

27 minutes ago, akgw13 said:

Matic: Would we move on from Matic if Conte gets the central midfield destroyer he wants(Bakayoko/Radja)? I dont think Fabregas is leaving anymore, and Conte seems to value Chalobah. For the right price would Conte sanction a sale?

 

I would be very surprised if Matic is gone while Cesc and Chalobah stay. Conte prefers him over both of them

[akgw13 867]

2 minutes ago, the wes said:

I totally agree every word u wrote there . But what players would u like to see come into the club in the summer?? 

Whoever Conte wants! haha Based off what we have all been hearing and reading about what Conte wants from his team I think he does want to move to a 2 striker system or at least have the flexibility to play both 343/352. 

Morata: He seems to be Contes #1 guy, linked in every window and seemingly the key piece for his 352. I do not think he can lead the line full time like Diego does but he is a great team player who offers something Conte has been seeking. Will score low double digit goals and link up beautifully. I think we on the board are under rating him.

Lukaku: Assuming Diego moves on Conte will want a goal scorer to match, I know we are split on him here but I can't get around the fact he is a proven PL goal scorer, Incredibly Athletic, Wants to prove he can lead Chelsea. He is still so young and I think he will be willing to learn under Conte. 

Bakayoko: Young, Physical, Talented, Familiar with the position. Bakayoko/Kante would be the most secure central midfield in the world, all while each can continue to improve under Conte. 

Van Dijk: PL Proven, Physical Beast, Comfortable with the ball. A back 3 with VD, Luiz, Azpi(Christensen) is secure and talented on the ball. Conte seems to want a stud CB and I prefer him to K2 from Napoli.

Left Wing Back/Ghoulam?: I admittedly know very little about the LWB options available, but I do know we need one. Alaba is the pinnacle but I feel unattainable, Sandro is great but expensive, Ghoulam seems to be highly rated and available (I cant speak to his skill as i havent watched him enough)

Still feels like we need one more wide attacking option, especially if Willian leaves. 

I do not think Sanchez will come to us, I would LOVE for him to join but Arsenal will be extra difficult to deal with. I am a big fan of Radja, but I can't see him leaving Roma and he is obsessed with nice weather apparently plus he would be extremely expensive. I have made my love of Verratti known many times over but I can't see him coming to us either sadly. 

 

[akgw13 867]

2 minutes ago, ulvhedin said:

I would be very surprised if Matic is gone while Cesc and Chalobah stay. Conte prefers him over both of them

He prefers him in certain styles of matches 100%. But say theoretically we sign Bakayoko who is the same player as Matic. Would Matic want to stay? Chalobah feels to me like the new Mikel, Will always be around and a squad player. Fabregas has more than earned my respect for his professionalism and play this year, plus he offers something Matic/Bakayoko/Kante dont.  

I would love to keep Matic but Conte seems to want a new CM option and Matic might be the odd man out.

[JuveChelsea 7]

My preferred summer:

Lukaku - I think he'll fit this Chelsea team better than Morata but Morata would be a decent choice too. (If Costa leaves)

Bernardo Silva or Sanchez (if Willian leaves)

Loftus-Cheek, Baker and Chalobah hopefully to be given a more significant role next season. I hear Conte is big on Baker but if he's not ready for Chelsea just yet -- I wouldn't mind Ross Barkley either in the mean time as I hear Conte is big on him too. 

Maybe a Dasilva bump to reinforce the wing back positions? But that might be reaching too much. 

Christensen to return. Ake most likely out.

Loan out Tammy to a top flight team. He's too good for the second division.

Cahill isn't going anywhere. He's staying as a starter and will be our captain. I don't see our back 3 changing next season. Christensen is probably going to be groomed to take over Luiz one day.

No to Bakoyoko. Overrated, bandwagon, impulsive summer target. 

Unless Azpi and/or Zouma is leaving I don't really see why we need Van Dijk. Our back 3 has been amazing - will Van Dijk improve it? I don't think so.

Break the bank on Lukaku and Silva/Sanchez in my opinion and promote and groom youth. That's my idea of a great summer. 

[The Skipper 20,609]

On 3/28/2017 at 0:10 AM, DYC. said:

^^ I find Van Dijk's ball-playing ability to be overrated but I guess that's just me. He's a good defender but a 60 mil CB? Never. He's not better than David Luiz and he was half the price.

Preach. Ball playing ability vastly overrated because he was dribbling past some Scottish farmers a few seasons ago. No disrespect to Scotland obviously, I'd say the same about the Dutch league.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Think we should go for Oxlade-Chamberlain this summer, especially if we don't manage to pinch Alexis from Arsenal and sign another RF. Best young English talent out there that can actually contribute well to the squad. Could play at RWB imo.

[Johnnyeye 7,593]

priorities this summer are keeping Hazard and Courtois here at all costs to fend off Real Madrid and co. , then i would sign another Defender, and Sanchez and also Nainggolan if possible, i strongly believe they will add that extra dimension to our midfield and attack that we need, specially in the Champions League. We´ll see what unfolds in the summer, but first let´s finish this season on a high note, then we will worry about possible transfers. Cheers

[LondonsFinest 692]

Let's look at it from a perspective, based on recent reports:

Conte wants to improve the squad. Mostly by buying Sanchez and a LWB.

Other than that(and including that), lets access information and think about possibilities and targets:

 

Christensen and/or Van Dijk -  Christensen and his dad have both said he will be returning to Chelsea. A major talent, who I doubt anyone is stupid to let go, especially given his succesful loan. Just like Courtois, we will probably put big trust in him as he has proved that he can make the leap from youth to pro football. Although Azpi and Cahill have been great this season, I would still place faith in the young lad on one of the two postitions. To be quite fair, Christensen is even more ideal than Luiz in the central role the Brazillian occupies, because of his fantastic ball - playing ability and intelligence. Which, would see Luiz occupy Azpi's role, which he would also fit great, as he can press and has the pace to keep up and push forward, if need be. Which would result to - moving Azpi at LCB/ or keep Cahill there, or we sign Van Dijk. Which I don't want to happen, as we have Ake and Zouma, who could also do the job there, but if they do not want to stay, then it seems logical for it to happen. I doubt Cahill will be dumped immediately, so I hope the first "potential" trio, would be the solution.

 

LWB(Alex Sandro, Ghoulam, Kolasinac, Mendy) - One of three positions we desperately need to improve. Any of the pointed out would do that. Alex Sandro being the best choice. Ofcourse, being the most expensive. Any potential outings of Costa(to China/Atleti) and/or Willian (China/United) would be for a vast amount of money, which, given Oscar money, CL, Nike deal and the wages we've freed up in recent years, can give us a boost in pursuing Alex Sandro and the big fee he'd demand. Reports in Italy say that Juventus would consider nothing short of 50 mil. euro. Which, is a no brainer, IF TRUE. Although, it has been said, he will probably sign a new deal. Add to that that Juve do NOT need to sell one of their best players and this transfer becomes extremely hard. However, If, Romano's report is right, which it is, we could at least give it a proper try. If we are to fail, then Ghoulam/Mendy  would be the better choices. A bit of work is needed in the defensive aspect, but they are still fantastic players and would definitely improve that left-hand side.

 

Bakayoko -  Decided not to include Radja, as I doubt he'd leave. Plus, with the reports, we've agreed a deal for the young frenchman, I guess he's our priority. The Second of the three areas we need to improve. Bakayoko is a fantastic signing. Massive player. People undermine him a lot, because he is still young and has problems with his consistency. He's had a fantastic season and is exactly what we want from Matic. Our system is based on the front three and the wing-backs being effective. The center midfielders have to carry the ball forward fast or be able to interchange quick pass upfront. A part from long range passing and the fact he sometimes decides to dribble, instead of passing(because he doesn't believe he will make the pass) is the online problem I see in Bakayoko. Still, he is only 22 or 21, and will just improve. Why not under Conte? Because two bad 2nd halves vs City? Or because of the friendly vs Spain? Cool. Let's undermine the fact he bossed one of the best midfielders in England twice(Moussa Dembele) and the top 3 CM in the world (Marco Veratti).

 

Sanchez/ B.Silva -  Alexis. The dream. The final piece to the jigsaw of that front three and last position we need to improve. Pedro has had a massive season, but he's not ideal. Bad touches, decisions, passing, lack of ability to get past an opponent in most of the situations. 50 mil. demanded price for the 2nd best player in England and a player Conte loves to bits. Our supposed number 1 target. What more do we want? For him to be convinced by Conte to snub PSG and Juve. Ideal for Conte's idea of Hazard being the creative spark and Alexis being the "workhorse" forward, who does not stop running, scores and finds the space given by Hazard/Costa. Antonio resigned, because he didn't get him. Can we please make his dream finally come true. He loves his fucking chilleans. If, it does not materialize, hopefully, we manage to bag B. Silva, he is the other choice who would fit Hazard. Still, Romano has said we will go all out for Alexis and one can only dream.

 

Lukaku and/or Morata -  Costa is a goner. And as much as I like the bloke, he isn't my ideal choice for a forward. Honestly, I believe we can replace him. Football has evolved. It's more than just a striker being clinical, and even if it is still his main asset, it also requires him to have good link - up play, be able to put other players in good positions, when he is having a bad game. Or, if we are playing against Pullis's WBA, he'd come with his back to goal and lay it off, creating space in behind with quick passing. Just as an example. Lukaku  has massively improved this aspect of his game. And he guarantees goals. I do NOT rate him as much, but he has definitely improved and I won't be a fool to deny that. Costa would never make the pass he made to Valencia against Hull. Never. And this is not me hating Costa. Morata - I must be the only one who actually rates him a lot. I watched his big season at Juve, then the next one he was injured, then he decided Real was a good choice for him, which, was a big mistake. Big moment player. Always pops up when needed, be it goal, asisst or something to contribute and lead to a goal. He was played at LM, injured, which is the reason he didn't have a great season and didn't make a dynamic duo with Dybala. Imo, he would fit us good, people are undermining him, because he has barely popped double-digit goals in his career. Still, just for a prime example, we signed Drogba with ONE season behind his back. Morata is still relatively young and has had ONE season, where he was fully trusted and a key figure. In that same season, he got Juve to the CL final(in which he scored), scoring in nearly every game leading up to it. Also, popped goals vs Milan, Napoli and Inter, if I am not mistaken. He can be successful for us, as long as, he keeps himself injury free and is trusted.

Depending on the outings of certain players, our wage bill and transfer budget can grow. I believe we can manage to cash in on Costa & Willian and/or Matic. Which would be massive. We could still end up with a relatively good net worth balance, if that be the case. We have to invest this summer, and we have the potential to do so, if do about our business on the low and correctly. Hopefully, we do.

 

[DYC. 7,542]

10 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Preach. Ball playing ability vastly overrated because he was dribbling past some Scottish farmers a few seasons ago. No disrespect to Scotland obviously, I'd say the same about the Dutch league.

Scottish farmers, haha. Bants.

@Blue-in-me-Veins Van Dijk has always been getting forward btw. He used to get flack for his Beckenbauer impression as a youngster. He's actually become less attacking now.

[JuveChelsea 7]

10 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Think we should go for Oxlade-Chamberlain this summer, especially if we don't manage to pinch Alexis from Arsenal and sign another RF. Best young English talent out there that can actually contribute well to the squad. Could play at RWB imo.

Oxlade-Chamberlain would be brilliant, he'd be able to fill so many holes in this team.

Do you think there's any chance that we have a shot for him?

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

11 hours ago, The Skipper said:

he was dribbling past some Scottish farmers a few seasons ago. No disrespect to Scotland obviously,

No need to apologise that's pretty accurate . Does make me laugh that Scotland wants independence but so many of them want Rangers and Celtic to play in England.

[Miguelito 459]

13 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Think we should go for Oxlade-Chamberlain this summer, especially if we don't manage to pinch Alexis from Arsenal and sign another RF. Best young English talent out there that can actually contribute well to the squad. Could play at RWB imo.

 

I love him as a player.  He has so much passion too.  There's been a few times he's gotten really frustrated at the lack of effort from his fellow Arsenal players.  He wants to win.

I see more as a CM though.  I think that's his best position.  But I am not sure if he would fit in the best in our current formation there.  I just think he could be limited at RWB, although I think he could be good there.  

What are your thoughts about him as a CM?  And do you think he would be too limited as a RWB?

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

*runs out of thread*

 

[LAM09 7,100]

 
I love him as a player.  He has so much passion too.  There's been a few times he's gotten really frustrated at the lack of effort from his fellow Arsenal players.  He wants to win.
I see more as a CM though.  I think that's his best position.  But I am not sure if he would fit in the best in our current formation there.  I just think he could be limited at RWB, although I think he could be good there.  
What are your thoughts about him as a CM?  And do you think he would be too limited as a RWB?

He isn't good enough with the ball whilst under pressure, which was shown against Bayern. Another Pedro type of option would be the best bet (RW-RWB).

[MichaelDance 552]

I'd take Lukaku if we could as 3rd choice / 2nd choice if needed but I do like Batshuayi.

Then if we loose Courtois or Begovic I'd go for Keylor Navas or De Gea. 

[AOIRO 64]

sanchez  fabinho  vandijk     come oooooooooooooon !!

Lukaku bakayoko bernardsilva  fuck off !