Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[didierforever 7,349]

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Get Sterling and a world class CM.

CB should be higher on the priority list than sterling.

for me

no.1 priority - koke/pogba

no.2 priority - varane/hummels

no.3 - second gk

no.4 - sterling/reus (luxury buy)

i would probably put "get a proper matic back up" higher than a RW.

[lionsden 4,689]

I had rather bring back Moses than sign valencia. They are about the same talent wise.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

What's going on with Khedira? Is he still available on a free in the summer? If so he's well worth a punt.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Gaitan will be another Willian/Cuadrado. Far from world class or/and being a goal-scoring threat. Hopefully, the story is based solely on us scouting him rather than genuine interest.

[TheIceMan 596]

What's going on with Khedira? Is he still available on a free in the summer? If so he's well worth a punt.

off to Schalke!

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Gaitan will be another Willian/Cuadrado. Far from world class or/and being a goal-scoring threat. Hopefully, the story is based solely on us scouting him rather than genuine interest.

As much as it pains me to say this about a Benfica player, Gaitan is better than both. He isn't much of a goalscorer, true - but he's a fucking magician with the ball on his feet, heck of dribbler. It amazes me how easily he can create goalscoring chances for others. And he can also play as a #10. I'd really like to see him here, but there are two things that don't go in his favor:

1- His best position is LW. No way he takes Hazard's place.

2- Playing him as a 10 would sort of negate his crossing, on of his strongest atributes. This isn't really really important but whatever.

And... He tracks back.

[LAM09 6,694]

As much as it pains me to say this about a Benfica player, Gaitan is better than both. He isn't much of a goalscorer, true - but he's a fucking magician with the ball on his feet, heck of dribbler. It amazes me how easily he can create goalscoring chances for others. And he can also play as a #10. I'd really like to see him here, but there are two things that don't go in his favor:

1- His best position is LW. No way he takes Hazard's place.

2- Playing him as a 10 would sort of negate his crossing, on of his strongest atributes. This isn't really really important but whatever.

And... He tracks back.

His stock has dropped over recent seasons. I personally think his chance of coming here went with his form a few seasons ago, but he did buy Juan after all.

Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

His stock has dropped over recent seasons. I personally think his chance of coming here went with his form a few seasons ago, but he did buy Juan after all.

Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

Oddly that's true, I'm surprised there havent been as many rumours about him. He was continuously linked to United a couple of years ago. He's in the best form I've ever seen him though.

[LAM09 6,694]

Oddly that's true, I'm surprised there havent been as many rumours about him. He was continuously linked to United a couple of years ago. He's in the best form I've ever seen him though.

Likewise. There's been numerous rumours each window, but nothing concrete. I'm sure he'll get a move soon, but could follow Garay and Witsel to Russia.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

what countries do you guys think chelsea should focus more on like the new youngsters and talent from brazil and belgium and any other countries like germany/france/spain.

even though we all know that chelsea fc will never respect or give young england players a chance or academy players and put them in the team.

[yuvala 2,167]

As much as it pains me to say this about a Benfica player, Gaitan is better than both. He isn't much of a goalscorer, true - but he's a fucking magician with the ball on his feet, heck of dribbler. It amazes me how easily he can create goalscoring chances for others. And he can also play as a #10. I'd really like to see him here, but there are two things that don't go in his favor:

1- His best position is LW. No way he takes Hazard's place.

2- Playing him as a 10 would sort of negate his crossing, on of his strongest atributes. This isn't really really important but whatever.

And... He tracks back.

Usually there's no one to cross to anyways..

[iseah100 5,612]

what countries do you guys think chelsea should focus more on like the new youngsters and talent from brazil and belgium and any other countries like germany/france/spain.

even though we all know that chelsea fc will never respect or give young england players a chance or academy players and put them in the team.

FRANCE!

[kellzfresh 7,228]

what countries do you guys think chelsea should focus more on like the new youngsters and talent from brazil and belgium and any other countries like germany/france/spain.

even though we all know that chelsea fc will never respect or give young england players a chance or academy players and put them in the team.

I'll go for England in centerbacks, Spanish midfielders, and southamerican attackers (strikers and wingers)

They're the best in these positions.

[The Skipper 20,593]

I'll go for England in centerbacks, Spanish midfielders, and southamerican attackers (strikers and wingers)

They're the best in these positions.

I'd say France for CBs tbh.

[kellzfresh 7,228]

I'd say France for CBs tbh.

Just because we are an English club, that's why I said English centerbacks but I get what you mean. Varane, koscielny, Zouma is a terrific combo

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

I'll go for England in centerbacks, Spanish midfielders, and southamerican attackers (strikers and wingers)

They're the best in these positions.

English for CBs ? No.

Neither proactive nor acceleration and quick U-turn nor ball-playing skills. Does any English CB has one of these skills ? There are modern day defender requirements for you.

And bigger no for Southamerican attackers. Historically, yes, but not now. A couple of things for that :

a) they're generally very fragile mentality. They say that the ones that come from poverty and from the streets thanks to that are stronger. Which is untrue. You see Juan Cuadrado who has seen his father killing at the age of 5 but then you see on the pitch how Charlie Adam comes with the tackle and poor Juan are literally scared to death to try to dribble opponent until the end of the game. He's weak mentality. Same with Oscar, Willian or Ramires. They can't put a real stamp on the game, I don't see a bit of character in them.

Also they're not educated. Every one of our Brazilian can't even speak a proper English. They just seem stupid. Look Hazard or Zouma couldn't speak English but Hazard was on good level only after the year and Zouma learned in half a year after transfer to Chelsea to speak as good as he does now. While Ramires is 5 years at Chelsea and still falter when speaks. It means way more than particularly lack of learning skills. The little education that players which come from street have means they are generally stupid on the pitch too. Ramires was construction worker as a teenager and say to me that it doesn't have an influence in his play now ? Sure it does with all the stupidity, lack of thinking and lack of character from him. He has the moments when he looks absolutely gem with proper technique and if he was educated enough he would be maybe less stupid and more consistent.

b ) the current crop of players from South America are only pseudo high talented players. This generation is the best embodied by Douglas Costa and Willian. They both seem a wonderful players with all that flair and close control while the reality is different. They fool you with that technique. They can't create something if their life would depend on that. Sure, there're still Neymar and James who are wonderfully gifted and effective players but more of them was in the past, now it's more of Willians.

So I think it's the education problem. I read that that the football system of coaching in Brazil is dead and they're still high in buisness because of population and very high interest in football from the kids.

I much more prefer European players now, the proper educated ones from good system of coaching and education than the street-educated ones. From highly developed countries like Belgium, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Great Britain etc.

So I think I'd say like this :

a) Defenders from France

b ) Midfielders from Spain, Germany and Croatia

c) Attackers from Belgium, Germany, France, Spain

[kellzfresh 7,228]

English for CBs ? No.

Neither proactive nor acceleration and quick U-turn nor ball-playing skills. Does any English CB has one of these skills ? There are modern day defender requirements for you.

And bigger no for Southamerican attackers. Historically, yes, but not now. A couple of things for that :

a) they're generally very fragile mentality. They say that the ones that come from poverty and from the streets thanks to that are stronger. Which is untrue. You see Juan Cuadrado who has seen his father killing at the age of 5 but then you see on the pitch how Charlie Adam comes with the tackle and poor Juan are literally scared to death to try to dribble opponent until the end of the game. He's weak mentality. Same with Oscar, Willian or Ramires. They can't put a real stamp on the game, I don't see a bit of character in them.

Also they're not educated. Every one of our Brazilian can't even speak a proper English. They just seem stupid. Look Hazard or Zouma couldn't speak English but Hazard was on good level only after the year and Zouma learned in half a year after transfer to Chelsea to speak as good as he does now. While Ramires is 5 years at Chelsea and still falter when speaks. It means way more than particularly lack of learning skills. The little education that players which come from street have means they are generally stupid on the pitch too. Ramires was construction worker as a teenager and say to me that it doesn't have an influence in his play now ? Sure it does with all the stupidity, lack of thinking and lack of character from him. He has the moments when he looks absolutely gem with proper technique and if he was educated enough he would be maybe less stupid and more consistent.

b ) the current crop of players from South America are only pseudo high talented players. This generation is the best embodied by Douglas Costa and Willian. They both seem a wonderful players with all that flair and close control while the reality is different. They fool you with that technique. They can't create something if their life would depend on that. Sure, there're still Neymar and James who are wonderfully gifted and effective players but more of them was in the past, now it's more of Willians.

So I think it's the education problem. I read that that the football system of coaching in Brazil is dead and they're still high in buisness because of population and very high interest in football from the kids.

I much more prefer European players now, the proper educated ones from good system of coaching and education than the street-educated ones. From highly developed countries like Belgium, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Great Britain etc.

So I think I'd say like this :

a) Defenders from France

b ) Midfielders from Spain, Germany and Croatia

c) Attackers from Belgium, Germany, France, Spain

I wrote english centerbacks because we must have English players in our team, so only positions they can fill without reducing the quality of the team is in defence.

The best attacking players in the world are southamericans not Brazilians per say. Let me refresh your memory: messi, Suarez, aguero, tevez, Neymar, costa.

Even ronaldo is originally a brazilian before Portuguese. In fact, the last ballon'd'or awards since 2000 have all been southamericans except cannavaro and Owen(c ronaldo is originally brazilian)

We just happened to get the worst generation of Brazilians at this time.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

The best attacking players in the world are southamericans not Brazilians per say. Let me refresh your memory: messi, Suarez, aguero, tevez, Neymar, costa.

Yes, but they're significant exceptions from the rule now. I thought the question on which country Chelsea should generally focus on and for me not Southamerican countries, because the standard is lower than it was in the past.

You see how much hype was around Neymar and James when they were only 15. Because they're rarity these days. Of course, when you have a hundreds of millions population with huge interest in football from almost all the kids, then you have to have some rarity but my point is that general focus should be on developed countries like Germany, France, Belgium, Spain. It's very difficult to find this exception from pool of thousand of players especially when you also have many players that look potentially as stars but are only pseudo high talented like Piazon, Willian, Douglas Costa and the list goes on. I mean, you have bigger possibility to buy very-good-looking-at-first-not-so-much-of-the-quality-though-player from Southamerica that from European countries.