nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 In other news, Hulk scores another bombI realy dont know why nobody rates him on this forum. I watched Hulk through his porto days and occasionaly in zenit, and there is no one else in today football who would be scoring as many long range goals like him for the past few years. The price Zenit paid was too much obviously, but its same club who sold Pepe, Anderson, Danilo for 30m, dont expect that they will sell their biggest talent of decade (at least he looked like) for any less than 50.I only wish he would play for better club in better league, but it probably wont happen. In his 30s he will return to Porto and have few seasons till retirement there probably.The disliking of this player probably goes to those people who only watched him in brazil NT where he was shit, but never watched him in Porto, Zenit or their CL and EL games where he was more or less brilliant. If you judge Costa by his spain NT games, then he is shit shit player too, I guess.Im not pointing that we should buy him or whatsoever, just its sad that he is playing in average Zenit nowdays, since I realy enjoyed watching him back in porto and thought he will be massive player one day, I had kinda same feeling with Hazard back in lille, but sometimes things dont work out in football...Hulk is not a world class talent, he's very limited imo, but he should have played in PL.. even for Spurs. I think he always really wanted to move to PL, he said that, but it should've been like two years ago. He missed the chance i think.He's not the first wasted Porto player. They tend to make such stupid moves... but like you said its because Porto asks for so much money, and i think there's a lot to do with the players agents, Mendes most times, 3rd parties and shit like that...its all a big machine that A, brings a lot of money to Porto, B, brings a lot of money to the player (wages in his next club), and C, brings a lot of money to the agents. But sadly, not the right move for the player proffessionally AND a bit too late in their careers.Players with ambition to be the best should think twice before they're joining this "machine".Although i REALLY like Porto as a team, they always play fantastic football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 He is fat and doesn't track back. Moreover his passing game is shit and he has no vision!In my opinion he is massively overrated! A few years ago he chose money over football, he has made his bed and now has to lie in it!In porto days, he was one of most all-rounded wingers IMO. Had great shot, finish, dribbling and crossing. But he was never one who worked his ass off. In Zenit, he only kept what he did best, which were shots from any distance, while he regressed more or less everything else including dribbling, passing, crossing etc.But he is in russia, Im sure he doesnt give two fucks about that league, because even at half ability, he is still best over there. In PL or PSG for example, things could be completely different. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hulk is not a world class talent, he's very limited imo, but he should have played in PL.. even for Spurs. I think he always really wanted to move to PL, he said that, but it should've been like two years ago. He missed the chance i think.He's not the first wasted Porto player. They tend to make such stupid moves... but like you said its because Porto asks for so much money, and i think there's a lot to do with the players agents, Mendes most times, 3rd parties and shit like that...its all a big machine that A, brings a lot of money to Porto, B, brings a lot of money to the player (wages in his next club), and C, brings a lot of money to the agents. But sadly, not the right move for the player proffessionally AND a bit too late in their careers.Players with ambition to be the best should think twice before they're joining this "machine".Although i REALLY like Porto as a team, they always play fantastic football.He was one of brilliant prospects back in 2008 if you remember. Thing is he gone down since move to zenit.I will always wonder what makes certain players move to such clubs like Hulk to Zenit or Falcao to Monaco. Is there money and money only, or are they actualy forced to go there due to 3rd ownership who ''allowed'' them to become such players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 In porto days, he was one of most all-rounded wingers IMO. Had great shot, finish, dribbling and crossing. But he was never one who worked his ass off. In Zenit, he only kept what he did best, which were shots from any distance, while he regressed more or less everything else including dribbling, passing, crossing etc.But he is in russia, Im sure he doesnt give two fucks about that league, because even at half ability, he is still best over there. In PL or PSG for example, things could be completely different.Under AVB at Porto he was a completely different player, you are right!I don't like his attitude at Zenit!The russians pay him and therefore he should work his socks off, but in these days he does only the necessary things.I don't like players with such an attitude!Against Dortmund he was dangerous, but for Brasil he is at best average. Yeah, you already said that, but its up for a discussion, because he tries hard and with players like Neymar he should be more dangerous.Long story short: in my opinion he is inconsistent as fuck and has really regressed, sad thing, because at his best, his power and shots are entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Latest reports from Spanish players.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2420776-chelsea-transfer-news-major-names-targeted-in-easter-sunday-rumours----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jose already never plays Luis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We've been linked to Jordan Henderson.....http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/06/football-transfer-rumoursAs if that weekend thrashing their team received at the hands of Arsenal and the unsettling hoo-ha regarding Raheem Sterling’s next move weren’t enough to have Liverpool fans weeping into their ale, the Daily Star’s splash that Jordan Henderson could be off to Chelsea may result in plenty more wailing and gnashing of teeth.The small rectangular daily reports that the fragrant, perspiration free Reliant Robin-pushing midfielder, whose contract expires at the end of next season, has joined his fellow Nivea-shilling team-mate Sterling in turning down a new deal. Having become a vital cog in the Liverpool machine following a shaky start to his career at the club, the England international is reported to have declined a new contract worth £80,000 per week and the Star ominously declares that “more talks are planned but Chelsea are monitoring the situation closely”. If true, the prospect of playing Champions League football and possibly winning the Premier League while earning lots more money will surely appeal.It's reported by the Daily Star though. So, it's probably nothing but having Henderson and Costa in the same team would be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We've been linked to Jordan Henderson.....http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/06/football-transfer-rumoursIt's reported by the Daily Star though. So, it's probably nothing but having Henderson and Costa in the same team would be fun. Good player. He would complement Fabregas and Matic well, but I would prefer better for the starting XI. I doubt he'd sign to be squad player.Sterling and Can, who has a higher ceiling than Henderson imo, are the only Liverpool players I'd sign if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Good player. He would complement Fabregas and Matic well, but I would prefer better for the starting XI. I doubt he'd sign to be squad player.Sterling and Can, who has a higher ceiling than Henderson imo, are the only Liverpool players I'd sign if possible.I do think Henderson is a decent player as well. In fact, he's a tad similar to Ramires and arguably a slight upgrade on him. But yeah, we can definitely do better than him. It's just that we have the HG quota matter to concern about, especially if the new proposal goes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I like him. For a Matic replacement, he's okay. Having him, Ramires, RLC is okay in terms of back-up, if we are to have Koke/Pogba and Cesc. It would be good, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 henderson is a tidy player but we have a similar player in rambo. dont see why we would want him. need a proper matic replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 henderson is a tidy player but we have a similar player in rambo. dont see why we would want him. need a proper matic replacement.Khedira would be a good squad player this summer, no transfer fee.Could hold too if needed and a smarter box to box player than Rambo with less pace though.Could partner Matic in big games with Cesc at 10. If Mikel decides it's time to leave, I'd love to see Khedira here. Oh yeah and he loves Mou, one of the few who didn't joined the club of cunts to betray him. didierforever and supporter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Khedira would be a good squad player this summer, no transfer fee.Could hold too if needed and a smarter box to box player than Rambo with less pace though.Could partner Matic in big games with Cesc at 10.If Mikel decides it's time to leave, I'd love to see Khedira here.Oh yeah and he loves Mou, one of the few who didn't joined the club of cunts to betray him.Hi friend!Totally agree with you. Khedira is a perfect backup for Matic. His transfer is free and is a very experienced player for big games and the type of player that help to win trophies.Also, as you say, Khedira and of Jose have a great mutual empathy. I remember when they were at Real Madrid and Khedira was the main soldier of Jose.With a player like Khedira us we could afford to rest Matic for him to get better physically and mentally at the end of the season and also would get us to compete for FA cup and League Cup smoothly. For me it would be a strategic signing.Regards. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,352 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We're really going all out on hitting the Japanese market aren't we. Japanese sponsor, Japanese post season tour, Japanese marketing signing. petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 who? what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi friend!Totally agree with you. Khedira is a perfect backup for Matic. His transfer is free and is a very experienced player for big games and the type of player that help to win trophies.Also, as you say, Khedira and of Jose have a great mutual empathy. I remember when they were at Real Madrid and Khedira was the main soldier of Jose.With a player like Khedira us we could afford to rest Matic for him to get better physically and mentally at the end of the season and also would get us to compete for FA cup and League Cup smoothly. For me it would be a strategic signing.Regards.Hi friend!Yes, definitely want him here if the HG quota rule doesn't change.Mou loves players who wanna "die" for him, and he is an example of that, like Terry, Didier, Zlatan and many at Inter.I remember Mou saying prior/after the game vs Dortmund:" Khedira is not available and he is vital for our play" and then Madrid lost 4-1 against Lewandowski. Khedira when fit, is a superb player and can even start many games for us next to Matic.Him or Matic running forward to support the attacks, with the other holding behind would be good to see. In other games when Cesc plays deep, he could rotate with Matic. RLC could learn a lot from him too. So, win-win-win situation imo. supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi friend!Yes, definitely want him here if the HG quota rule doesn't change.Mou loves players who wanna "die" for him, and he is an example of that, like Terry, Didier, Zlatan and many at Inter.I remember Mou saying prior/after the game vs Dortmund:" Khedira is not available and he is vital for our play" and then Madrid lost 4-1 against Lewandowski.Khedira when fit, is a superb player and can even start many games for us next to Matic.Him or Matic running forward to support the attacks, with the other holding behind would be good to see.In other games when Cesc plays deep, he could rotate with Matic. RLC could learn a lot from him too.So, win-win-win situation imo.Totally agree with you friend! Regards. Blue Colored Sky and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Totally agree with you friend! Regards.Thanks !Didn't Mourinho phone to Khedira and told him to stay one more year with Madrid to come to Chelsea ? That story was in Spanish papers for sure.Khedira at least can press, when he is in his physical conditions he can press very effectively therefore he's much much better back up to Matic or even his partner than Mikel. supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We're really going all out on hitting the Japanese market aren't we. Japanese sponsor, Japanese post season tour, Japanese marketing signing.Haha, yeah. At least they're a few hours ahead you know, we won't have to wake up in the middle of the night to watch pre-season matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Could partner Matic in big games with Cesc at 10.The only reason i dont want Khedira is because im afraid he'll start the big games next to Matic, that would be the wrong step imo. He's just a better Ramires.If i was told he'll only be a Matic back up than i'll say yes. But i dont think he'll want it, and his wages he wants are crazy for a back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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