supporter 3,088 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Bamford, Loftus Cheek would solve 2 of those.Hi friend!I agree with RLC. I believe that we can reject signing Paul Pogba. Although I think it would continue to be required to sign Koke. For me RLC Pogba has similar features, so if we give minute RLC our team he can become more important than Pogba.Instead, Koke is another type of player, much like Fabregas. This season we have seen Fabregas was too lonely in our midfield. If we signed Koke that Fabregas would help to better reach the second half of the season.A midfield with Matic - Ruben Loftus-Cheek - Koke - Fabregas would give us many different possibilities.Option 1. Koke Matic FabregasOption 2. RLC MaticKoke FabregasOption 3. Koke RLC FabregasOption 4. RLC Matic KokeAbout Patrick Bamford, I think he is very young (21 years old) and he is doing a great job with Middlesbrough. Instead, I think now we can not cut his progression. If Bamford come with us next season he would have a similar role to that Remy is having this season.For me, and I think Jose said we were going to do something with it, the best option would be to sell him to Middlesbroughwith an option to allow Bamford recombra and have the opportunity to demonstrate their performance in Premier League playing more than 30 games next season. That would be the best way to see their true performance in Premier League, England and with a coach (Aitor Karanka) having a similar mentality Jose.If Bamford plays next season over 30 games between Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup maybe we can win a great player for the future.I personally think we have to be calm with young boys. Now it appears that a player is already 22 years old, but it is not. Play for Chelsea is a big responsibility, if we cut the progression of Bamford having him on the bench waiting for a chance when Diego Costa this not having a good step, Bamford will probably cut his progression. However, one year in Middlesbrough could relaunch his career.A similar case is Solanke. He has enormous potential, but only 17 years. I prefer to go step by step. To Bamford his first mission should be to show that he can have the performance that he had with Middlesbrough in Firt Division but now in Premier League next season.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Cech ------------ >>> some homegrown goalkeeperCahill ------------ >>> VaraneRamires --------- >>> Vidal or some strong, physical and technical midfielderMikel ------------- >>> ? or Ruben Loftus-Cheek if he can learn his trade from MaticOscar ------------ >>> KokeRemy ------------- >>> IcardiI think for those upgrades we won't spend much than 50m of pounds net. supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Hi friend!I agree with RLC. I believe that we can reject signing Paul Pogba. Although I think it would continue to be required to sign Koke. For me RLC Pogba has similar features, so if we give minute RLC our team he can become more important than Pogba.Instead, Koke is another type of player, much like Fabregas. This season we have seen Fabregas was too lonely in our midfield. If we signed Koke that Fabregas would help to better reach the second half of the season.A midfield with Matic - Ruben Loftus-Cheek - Koke - Fabregas would give us many different possibilities.Option 1. Koke Matic FabregasOption 2. RLC MaticKoke FabregasOption 3. Koke RLC FabregasOption 4. RLC Matic KokeAbout Patrick Bamford, I think he is very young (21 years old) and he is doing a great job with Middlesbrough. Instead, I think now we can not cut his progression. If Bamford come with us next season he would have a similar role to that Remy is having this season.For me, and I think Jose said we were going to do something with it, the best option would be to sell him to Middlesbroughwith an option to allow Bamford recombra and have the opportunity to demonstrate their performance in Premier League playing more than 30 games next season. That would be the best way to see their true performance in Premier League, England and with a coach (Aitor Karanka) having a similar mentality Jose.If Bamford plays next season over 30 games between Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup maybe we can win a great player for the future.I personally think we have to be calm with young boys. Now it appears that a player is already 22 years old, but it is not. Play for Chelsea is a big responsibility, if we cut the progression of Bamford having him on the bench waiting for a chance when Diego Costa this not having a good step, Bamford will probably cut his progression. However, one year in Middlesbrough could relaunch his career.A similar case is Solanke. He has enormous potential, but only 17 years. I prefer to go step by step. To Bamford his first mission should be to show that he can have the performance that he had with Middlesbrough in Firt Division but now in Premier League next season.Regards.Once again, great post. I do think we should go for a Koke type player. Not sure if Atleti would sell to us, but we do need another midfielder. Even if RLC does get games next season, it won't be many and not big games. On Bamford, that makes sense. If Boro get promoted it would be perfect to send him back for the season, but I don't want the club to spend another £20m+ on a striker we have for a season. We absolutely need a CB though, an atheltic, techincal CB. Someone like Varane, Martinez of Real Sociedad, or Boateng. supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Obviously most of our remaining problems won't get solved by throwing money at them. We have tried that. We still got a massive quality and creativity deficit in AM/RW despite having bought players for a good 150m for those positions. Most of those have struggling covering their offensive and defensive duties at the same time despite their hety pricetags. So why not simply recall some loansters and let them have a try. Especially Bertrand Traore. He appears to be a promising player and can still be formed. Honestly can't do worse than Willian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Obviously most of our remaining problems won't get solved by throwing money at them. We have tried that. We still got a massive quality and creativity deficit in AM/RW despite having bought players for a good 150m for those positions. Most of those have struggling covering their offensive and defensive duties at the same time despite their hety pricetags. So why not simply recall some loansters and let them have a try. Especially Bertrand Traore. He appears to be a promising player and can still be formed. Honestly can't do worse than Willian.BUT IT IS NOT going to happen ,, Lukaku did well on loan so has Bamford ,, so did Bertrand. Ake stayed and has virtually no time in two years ,, Zouma came in ,,seemed to do do well but not trusted in our last two games .. If established players like Luisand Remy are given chances then no way for players like Traore . THAT is the biggest shame of all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Bale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Bale?He'll cost £60-70 million absolutely not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 He'll cost £60-70 million absolutely not!!He'd be perfect for counter attacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 He'd be perfect for counter attacking.But he'd be bad for matches when opposition park the bus. For that kind of money you expect player to be exceptional in every circumstances. Ainsley Harriott, Reddish-Blue, The Chels and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 But he'd be bad for matches when opposition park the bus. For that kind of money you expect player to be exceptional in every circumstances.He can pelt one in from 35 yards though. Which is one tactic for bus removal we don't possess Supermonkey92 and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open 45 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Options to buy: £140m - Gordon if Cech goes (GK)- Varane (CB) 2016- Clyne (RB)- Verratti, Koke, Pogba, Khedira/Kondogbia (CM)- Reus, Bale (RM)- Lavazcette 2016, Icardi (ST) Sell: £60m - Mikel- Cahill- Oscar- Salah- Cech (?) Depth: GK: Cech/Gordon, BlackmanFullbacks: Luis, Ivanovic. AkeCB: Ivanovic, Kalas/ChristiansenCM: Khedira/Kondogbia (?) Ramires, RLC, AkeWingers: Cuadrado, Willian. RamiresST: Remy, Drogba, Bamford Potential XI? ------------Courtois--------Clyne-Zouma-Terry-Azpi-Verratti-Fabregas-Matic-----Bale--Costa--Hazard--- Bench: Cech/Gordon, Ivanovic, Luis, Kongdobia (?), Ramires, Willian/Cuadrado, RemyReserves: Blackman, Ake, Kalas/Christiansen, RLC, Cuadrado/Willian, Drogba, Bamford. 2016: Varane > Terry, Lavazcette > Drogba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 The overhaul we have to do. Yeah, that's really overhaul. Bigger than I thought.Not messing around, please ZERO stop gap signings who happen to be easy obtainable. Last month was a talk about Enner fking Valencia ... WTF.Fast, proactive, ball playing defender - Varane !!Physical midfielder with good technique - Vidal/Pogba !!Proper offensive player who can keep the ball under pressure and doesn't lose the ball when pushing from the back - Koke !!Technical striker - Icardi !!If not, better find a player in the youth set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 BUT IT IS NOT going to happen ,, Lukaku did well on loan so has Bamford ,, so did Bertrand. theAke stayed and has virtually no time in two years ,, Zouma came in ,,seemed to do do well but not trusted in our last two games .. If established players like Luisand Remy are given chances then no way for players like Traore . THAT is the biggest shame of allIndeed a shame. I would not be half as mad if the players we actually play over our promising, passionate youngsters weren't some vastly overpriced average players who always did and always will blow their chances with their half-assed effort.Instead of waiting for some genuine world-class players becoming available we cast our hard earned money at those half-decent fair-weather players.Once we were hailed for our character. Players like Lampard, Ballack, Essien, Maka, Drogba who would always stand up to their task and raise their effort and their output for the occasion. Now we are left with a bunch of pussies who are unable to string two passes together all the time between January and June. The thing is you can't buy character. Unless we realize that every season will go like this one. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 We don't need bale, we don't need a 60mil RW. Most of our problems stem from our lack of creativity throuhh the mid. When cesc was in top form, we looked like one of the best teams in the world. Without cesc, we can't beat burnley and soton at home and there in loes the problem. Oscar is useless in creaticity and yiu can easily say he is redundant. He needs to go. Oscar CANNOT be a starter for CFC in 2015-16. If that happens, we are in grave danger. We need a CM who can control the game and take some of the pressure of cesc. Pogba is the one who comes to mind. We need him and not just want him. He will be the perfect fit for us along with matic and with cesc as a no.10 or in a 4-1-4-1. More than buying the right players, its also the time to sell the camcers and viruses of the club. We have already lost mata and kdb cos of oscar very similar to us losing sturridge, lukaku cos of torres. High time we get rid of oscar as soon as possible. Second will be MIKEL. he has veen a GREAT servant of the club, but we need a better replacement when matic gets injured or rotated and please no mvg/romeu/RLC (under jose he is not getting a chance).Outs - Cech (10)Oscar (20)Cahill (only if we get varane) (10)Mikel (5)Moses (5)Marin, kakuta, romeu, mvg, kalas josh (15)InsPogba (go all out) (50-60)Varane (20-30)2nd DM (15-20)2ND GK(0-5)Gks- courtois, x, blackmanDefendeds- JT, varane, zouma, iva, azpi, luis, ake, christensenCm/Dms - matic, pogba, rambo, 2nd DM, RLC.Ams- cesc, hazard, willian, Cuadrado, traore, xStrikers - costa, remy, bamford. Fernando and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 We should target Koke, Pogba and Godin.If we play Willian AND Oscar (and Cesc) at same time, we lack creativity in attack and physicality in midfeld. But Willian on wing is essential for his hardwork. Plus there are no proper RWs anyway atm and we just spend 30m on Cuadrado. But like I said, Willian is ok, as long we would have Hazard, Cesc and Koke/Pogba who all can contribute to attack. But Oscar and Willian at the same time is a big no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/15/report-chelsea-agrees-to-sign-brazilian-midfielder-douglas-costa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A strong, physically imposing and ball-playing CM to partner Matic (in the big games especially) should be high on the list. It's interesting to note that Tiago and Thiago Motta, who fill those criteria, were both probably MOTM against us in the recent PSG and Atletico home ties. They're both getting on a bit now and would only be short-term solutions. We definitely need someone similar though.Schneiderlin. Reddish-Blue and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 this summer our targets should bevarane/ottamendi/fonteschneiderlein(realistic wont cost as much as the other three) / koke / pogba / veratti courtoisazpi ivanovic varane luis schneiderlin maticwillian fabregas Hazard Costathe defense can play a high line ..back four players are fastevery player in that lineup is technical and can pass the ball under pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Schneiderlin.soton had put a 30-40mil tag on him. would rather we spend an extra 20 on pogba and get a WC player out of it. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Would love Wesley Sneijder as a squad player/Cesc back up. He knows Mou, loves him and would be cheap (31 years old). For around 10m Euro's I would take him. Not sure about his form but I'm sure Mou can get the best out of him again.- lot of big game experience (WC final, CL final)- good long shots- double footed, like Carzorla- creative brain behind Inter's treble season- good at direct freekicks- great set piece takerWe have 2 non-HG quota now, probably 3 if Cech leaves us with a HG keeper replacing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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