ILoveLamp 270 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Another point - Moutinho was signed by Monaco when they were splurging cash (which is no longer the case), so I imagine he's on quite a hefty salary there, which may put suitors off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Another point - Moutinho was signed by Monaco when they were splurging cash (which is no longer the case), so I imagine he's on quite a hefty salary there, which may put suitors off...But on the other hand may make him easier to acquire as Monaco may want to get rid to cut down there wage bill. Potential for them to pay part of his remaining wage to get him off the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveLamp 270 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 But on the other hand may make him easier to acquire as Monaco may want to get rid to cut down there wage bill. Potential for them to pay part of his remaining wage to get him off the books.True. They are hamstrung by FFP and their terrible attendance etc. They are really looking to develop youth. It's all hypothetical but I suppose if they wanted to get him off the books that much they could sell cheap, which could allow for a bigger wage. He'd be an excellent 'utility' player in midfield, able to cover a number of positions. kellzfresh and Viper22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Replacement for who? Imbula would be a good back-up for Matic, but he is quite raw. May be expensive to get too...replacement was probably the wrong word to use. i meant back up itself. our over reliance on matic has been exposed a couple of times this season and without him, we look really poor. as for expensive, i doubt it. we need another DM/CM. pogba would be the ideal player in that respect and he would cost a fortune. so as a plan B, imbula looks good. i have watched marseille abput 4/5 times this season and imbula has looked brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveLamp 270 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Imbula is a good young player and would get a decent amount of chances with us and maybe develop into something special.He's the sort of player who is young and a bit raw, but also ready to play in the first team.As for expensive you are probably right, he'd be affordable and certainly nowhere near Pogba in terms of cost and wage (although is nowhere near the player either...!) didierforever and Viper22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I know Moutinho was immense but dont let his performance fool you. He has been very inconsistent and generally frustrating for Monaco. Yesterday was easily his best game for his team, and he was given a lot of space to operate. The same could be argued for Kondogbia. He never really impressed or imposed himself in the team since he arrived. Dont forget that both of them came for big money for a ligue 1 team. One player who is worth watching is Bernardo silva. He signed for them in jan from benfica and his potential is huge. He assisted Carrasco for the third goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 He'll replace oscar in the starting line-up. He's quality. I don't know why you keep missing that part of my statementYou said Moutinho would be a perfect replacement for Cesc. I haven't missed anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 £20m for a back-up left back, anything is possible....I think Moutinho would be very good cover/rotation for those positions.Kondogbia was good yesterday but has not really been setting L1 alight since his return....I personally don't know why we bought Luis, as I was sure he would come in and be our LB. Mourinho likes to be defensive more often than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You said Moutinho would be a perfect replacement for Cesc. I haven't missed anything.I think you're reading it wrong. He meant a replacement off the bench. Someone to cover him when he's injured or needs a rest...Why would we replace Fab kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think you're reading it wrong. He meant a replacement off the bench. Someone to cover him when he's injured or needs a rest...Why would we replace Fab [emoji38]I presumed that is what he meant, but the wording is wrong. He should have said a back up option, or a replacement for Oscar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 mikel has to go this summer fs mikel is like a cat with 9 lives i would love to see alex song replace mikel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 A replacement means instead/in place of. There was NO mention of back up. £25m+ for a back up midfielder. When are people going to wake up in the real world?!He also implied that moutinho would replace oscar in starting eleven. Not exactly 25m for bench them.Plus if you want anything better than Mikel on bench, you have to fork out quite some money on players. Sure there are exceptions, but not always.P.s.: i dont care if we bring moutiho or not, i was just explaining what kellz said as some didnt seem to understand. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 He also implied that moutinho would replace oscar in starting eleven. Not exactly 25m for bench them.Plus if you want anything better than Mikel on bench, you have to fork out quite some money on players. Sure there are exceptions, but not always.P.s.: i dont care if we bring moutiho or not, i was just explaining what kellz said as some didnt seem to understand.It wasn't worded perfectly, but I still think we should be going for a first team player. If we can get a CM, Pogba should be the main focus. We need someone that would improve our starting eleven, and not just our squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 It wasn't worded perfectly, but I still think we should be going for a first team player. If we can get a CM, Pogba should be the main focus. We need someone that would improve our starting eleven, and not just our squad.Yeah Pogba would be great. But I dont know if we can afford him as we will have to buy another CB and RB too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah Pogba would be great. But I dont know if we can afford him as we will have to buy another CB and RB too.We wouldn't be able to afford me with a cash deal alone, but we would have to add someone to the deal. They've been after Ramy and Oscar for a bit, so give them their pick.I agree we need to think about improving other positions in our squad, but I'm not sure RB is one of them. Iva has been massive for us this season, even though he isn't playing in his preferred position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 We wouldn't be able to afford me with a cash deal alone, but we would have to add someone to the deal. They've been after Ramy and Oscar for a bit, so give them their pick.I agree we need to think about improving other positions in our squad, but I'm not sure RB is one of them. Iva has been massive for us this season, even though he isn't playing in his preferred position.Havig two fullbacks who can realy control the ball going forward in azpi and iva is limiting our attack quite alot.While Iva was amazing in attack, he wont be here forever and we should slowly start to think about getting his replacement. Clyne would be nice as he is also english. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Havig two fullbacks who can realy control the ball going forward in azpi and iva is limiting our attack quite alot.While Iva was amazing in attack, he wont be here forever and we should slowly start to think about getting his replacement. Clyne would be nice as he is also english.Luis was meant to be the answer on the left, but isn't starting much. Clyne would be a decent signing, but he would command a a big fee (hiked fee due to him being English). I'm not too sure about his defensive capabilities either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah Pogba would be great. But I dont know if we can afford him as we will have to buy another CB and RB too.of all the players to be bought, i think buying a RB would be dead last in jose's list. ILoveLamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The more I think about it I'm slowly coming to the realization that this 'X' or 'Y' player would not solve our inability to attack and create chances at times.Yes buying Reus would be great but we as a team need to get better at moving the ball and having a game plan in which we're set up to create chances, especialy in big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec 33 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 With the Yokohama deal and selling the deadwood (Moses, McEachran, Salah, Marin, Romeu etc...) then we can expect about £75m on top of anything we can cover through revenue (including the £18m not counted in the Yokohama deal as we had that anyway with Samsung), competition revenue as hopefully we will better last year's finishes. I would expect us to have around £100m to sign a defender; reportedly Varane, a midfielder and a forward.I am hoping we get rid of Mikel and bring in someone to cover Matic whom is competent and I wouldn't mind Lars Bender though if Dortmund don't reach the Champions League I would take Sven on the cheap. As for a forward I have no clue, maybe Icardi but I see him commanding a high price that I don't think would be worth it when he would be second/third choice. Bas Dost is on form but it would be a massive gamble. Lacazette is another gamble but has more consistency in Ligue 1; yet we've seen how that worked with Giroud.In an ideal world this would be:Raphael Varane - £30mSven Bender - £17.5mAlexandre Lacazette - £22.5mThat would be £40m for another player if we need them. I doubt it but Pogba would be great though (probably cost more than that too BUT this doesn't factor in the likely sale of Mikel if we were to sign him and a defensive midfielder) I cannot see Mourinho dropping Oscar or moving him to the right and making him ineffective to play 433. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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