Tottenham 1-1 Chelsea

[pyut898 14]

Not confident about this one, though we will be lucky to get a point. I don't understand why AVB has given time to build Chelsea, whereas other former Chelsea's managers didn't. This is far the worst start by Chelsea under the Roman's era, yet AVB, who constantly makes tactical errors, is still given shitloads of chances to stick around and make 'magic' happens. He is no Mourinho, importantly, he doesn't deserve to manage a big team like Chelsea. I'm ready for any dispute with whoever supports the donkey, he needs to pack up his bags and get the fuck out of here. We need someone who knows what he is doing, definitely not some newbie who thinks he's da shit cause he won the league once with Porto.

[HRiver 1,512]

Drogba definitely, he knows how to score against Tottenham. But if he's not good, then AVB should give Torres at least 20 minutes. If things remain this way for a longer period Torres definitely has no future in this club and should be sold in the summer.

[Tomo 21,751]

Not confident about this one, though we will be lucky to get a point. I don't understand why AVB has given time to build Chelsea, whereas other former Chelsea's managers didn't. This is far the worst start by Chelsea under the Roman's era, yet AVB, who constantly makes tactical errors, is still given shitloads of chances to stick around and make 'magic' happens. He is no Mourinho, importantly, he doesn't deserve to manage a big team like Chelsea. I'm ready for any dispute with whoever supports the donkey, he needs to pack up his bags and get the fuck out of here. We need someone who knows what he is doing, definitely not some newbie who thinks he's da shit cause he won the league once with Porto.

Yes lets sack AVB and give Malouda and co "another chance".

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/11771-10-reasons-to-be-delighted-with-avb-so-far/page__p__320303#entry320303

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Don't think Drogba was great V City bar the timewasting at the end which was genius, but the only problem is Drogba is nearly 34 played twice in the last week and didn't he play a charity match or something inbetween not sure?

Plus Drogba might start thinking he has got a sorted place if he gets picked after the shocker he had today.

Drogba will not becoming complacent when the occasion is there. It's like Alex says, when Torres is rubbish he disappears from games! He doesn't bother to get involved, he'll make a run now and then, lose out and drift out.

Drogba, on the other hand, will keep pushing and giving defenders hell.. Even if he's playing badly, he still gives defenders a nightmare. Certainly not one to risk the mood of Torres in.

[Hd123 5]

Not confident about this one, though we will be lucky to get a point. I don't understand why AVB has given time to build Chelsea, whereas other former Chelsea's managers didn't. This is far the worst start by Chelsea under the Roman's era, yet AVB, who constantly makes tactical errors, is still given shitloads of chances to stick around and make 'magic' happens. He is no Mourinho, importantly, he doesn't deserve to manage a big team like Chelsea. I'm ready for any dispute with whoever supports the donkey, he needs to pack up his bags and get the fuck out of here. We need someone who knows what he is doing, definitely not some newbie who thinks he's da shit cause he won the league once with Porto.

I fully agree with the first part of your post and hugely disagree with the second. I don't understand the logic in sacking Carlo (a better manager), spending 13m to bring an inferior coach and give him time/money as opposed to Carlo. But what done is done, we can't afford to sack him and have no real need to do so unless the results really get abysmal and we end up in 8th spot come end of season.

[Hd123 5]

Drogba will not becoming complacent when the occasion is there. It's like Alex says, when Torres is rubbish he disappears from games! He doesn't bother to get involved, he'll make a run now and then, lose out and drift out.

Drogba, on the other hand, will keep pushing and giving defenders hell.. Even if he's playing badly, he still gives defenders a nightmare. Certainly not one to risk the mood of Torres in.

What a bunch of lies. If Drogba isn't in the mood he is a liability and I can't believe you still haven't noticed.

No, I'm not advocating that Torres should start

[Tomo 21,751]

I fully agree with the first part of your post and hugely disagree with the second. I don't understand the logic in sacking Carlo (a better manager), spending 13m to bring an inferior coach and give him time/money as opposed to Carlo. But what done is done, we can't afford to sack him and have no real need to do so unless the results really get abysmal and we end up in 8th spot come end of season.

I no Carlo hater (far from it) but i think we in general have forgotten just how horrific the football was last season.

I wanted Carlo to have one more season to fix it but their is no getting away from it, last season was rigic, static and horrible to watch.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

What a bunch of lies. If Drogba isn't in the mood he is a liability and I can't believe you still haven't noticed.

I never said he's good when he's bad.. I said he's still more effective than Torres. When Torres has a bad day it's like being down to 10 men..

[Hd123 5]

I never said he's good when he's bad.. I said he's still more effective than Torres. When Torres has a bad day it's like being down to 10 men..

Yeah cos Drogba lit up the lights today

I haven't seen him doing anything significant throughout the match. When he's motivated he is unplayable. When he's not, he's gone

[Hd123 5]

I no Carlo hater (far from it) but i think we in general have forgotten just how horrific the football was last season.

I wanted Carlo to have one more season to fix it but their is no getting away from it, last season was rigic, static and horrible to watch.

It was better than watching expiriencd players make mistakes leading to goals in nearly EVERY single game we played. How has our conentration dropped so much that we are making schoolboy errors my local amateur team would only dream of.

Another scenario: what if JT was injured and couldn't proceed? One look at the bench and I can't see a single centreback on there. What would we do, shift ferreira in there? Now unless Alex has killed his wife, why isn't he on the bench?! Why are we taking these risks. Why the baffling substitutions? Why did it take half a season to discover that we can't play a high line? Why is our 50m man not getting a minute of gametime against weak opposition even though Drogba is well in his thirties and is tired?

I'm afraid AVB gets a 4/10 from me, all four points for the joy of Romeu, Mata and Sturridge.

[Henrique 9,133]

Drogba will not becoming complacent when the occasion is there. It's like Alex says, when Torres is rubbish he disappears from games! He doesn't bother to get involved, he'll make a run now and then, lose out and drift out.

Drogba, on the other hand, will keep pushing and giving defenders hell.. Even if he's playing badly, he still gives defenders a nightmare. Certainly not one to risk the mood of Torres in.

- Drogba has only 2 PL goals. He must leave at the end of the season.

- We werent back in the title race after winning against City, we are not in the title race, we are in next CL place race, and if we lose against Spurs we will be left in a really bad situation.

Sometimes in football a couple of good results makes people forget half of a season, the problems, the changes that are needed and our real situation.

[Tomo 21,751]

- Drogba has only 2 PL goals. He must leave at the end of the season.

- We werent back in the title race after winning against City, we are not in the title race, we are in next CL place race, and if we lose against Spurs we will be left in a really bad situation.

Sometimes in football a couple of good results makes people forget half of a season, the problems, the changes that are needed and our real situation.

Agree to some extent Drogba does have to go. I love him as much as the next Chelsea fan but this has to be his last season with us.

I admit were not in the title race now, i thought we were at the beggining but i was wrong i love lauding it when i am right so ill have my humble pie for being wrong but having said that i will be stunned if our CL place is under threat over the course of 38 games.

The mental side of sport is one that is really under-rated, even tho we were shocking last season when it looked our CL place was under serious threat we pulled our finger out of our arse and made sure it did not happen where-as Spurs crumbled and dropped points against relegation side's (i know we did yesterday but we don't do it often in comparison to Liverpool, Spurs and even Arsenal and that's the difference).

If we drop points in January against Swansea, Norwich and co then we should start thinking shit but right now we should just take yesterday as a bad day in the office.

[didierforever 7,349]

the match will mostly be decided on how much mata and danny can peg their wingers back. i dont think assou-ketto,walker,corluka is good enough for both of them in one on one so i can see a lot of play from sturridge. to stop that they might might ask lennon and bale to fall back which will suite us. so lets hope mata does what he does best and danny continues his awesome run. come on chelsea....

[Tomo 21,751]

Just want the game to be over so we don't have to see that shitty badge on the TC homepage no more.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Nailed-on 1-1 draw, I think!

Spurs are always dangerous at home, especially on the counter, but the fact we will be underdogs puts all pressure on them.

[Swedish House Mafia 508]

Adebayor, Defoe, VDV, Modric, Lennon, Bale. Parker behind them with Friedel in goal.

Ouch.

Spurs 2-0 Chelsea.

[Badboy 1,526]

I don't want Torres any were near the first team in this game, this is the exact type of game he will be bullied and he will disappear. Drogba needs a rest too so i think we should try not having a striker with Mata, Sturridge, and Malouda with them all changing positions and making runs in between the fullback and centre back.

[Au blues 29]

Why Torres?

Drogba showed he can step up to the big occasion v. City. Torres shows otherwise, i.e. v. Arsenal.

Guess Torres did not step up to Man U by the same token.IMO who ever starts needs to step up the whole side! We are playing like a dysfunctional family

[Badboy 1,526]

Au Blues I don't see Torres giving the Spurs defence a problem in anyway shape or form. I would rather the unpredictable Lukaku because Torres will be a one season wonder and we need as much money back from him as possible. I still think PSG would pay about 20 million for him now if we were to sell and that is a good sum. Liverpool got 15 million for Robbie Keane in the January window and that was a good bit of business for Liverpool. Basically what's happened is AVB has seen that this guy is finished in training so he can't take the risk in doing a sheva. We might as well blame it on tactics and a loss of confidence ! Our priority should be to get as much money back from this ladyboy as possible

[Au blues 29]

Ultra blue ,

Opinions differ nevertheless no need carry on as you are I mean come on a ladyboy? Torres has not performed for Chelsea for what ever reasons but nevertheless hes not a one season wonder! Have a look at his whole career.

What is obvious is that if he is to be part of the future he needs to get time on the pitch.Drogba has looked lame over the last two matches specifically since he had that twinge on the hammy so perhaps fresh legs and a pissed of striker fighting for his career is what we might see.

We didn't see much last night did we?