CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Yes.Even his passing wasn't up to scratch. But he didn't really have much involvement when he came on anyway, so it's not something that can be used against him.With all do respect, I think you need to watch that second half again.I thought he was very involved in every play. And all the analyzers of the match on the channel I'm watching can't stop saying how Frank was the best man on the field since he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I really think his rotation of the ball is a bit slower.but why do we need to play a thousand km/h..look at teams that play great possession i.e. barcelona, they play in three gears slower to lull teams to sleep then they have a regular were they knock the ball around with fluidity and they have a 3 gear wear the string 5-6 passes together within a span of 10s..hence why they are so successful...Mikel is necessary because of his ability to cut out passing lanes and win the ball in the middle and he plays good forward passes to advancing cole and bos..+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Keeping the ball and waiting a bit to make a better pass is much better than releasing the ball for the sake doing that quickly.Yeah but when you compare to other DM he is a bit slower.I still wonder how David Luiz will do if he play that role..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 With all do respect, I think you need to watch that second half again.I thought he was very involved in every play. And all the analyzers of the match on the channel I'm watching can't stop saying how Frank was the best man on the field since he came on.I must disagree. But that's just my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaChick 430 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Today's team was like a breath of fresh air. Honestly like I loved that match, I dunno how they played in their last game because I didn't see it but there were so many positives tonight. I'm loving our new signings, I'm loving Sturridge's confidence, I'm loving Lampards half games I'm loving Luiz in general. I just felt like it was a great team performance and it wasn't too slow and I dunno maybe I'm a loo la but seriously I'm buzzin. My heart broke a little bit when that goal wasn't given to Torres but hey he did good, great little pass to Mata at the end, I could of kissed him! But most of all I LOVE our new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 there shouldnt be ANY moans ,,,every player turned in at least a decent performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 but why do we need to play a thousand km/h..look at teams that play great possession i.e. barcelona, they play in three gears slower to lull teams to sleep then they have a regular were they knock the ball around with fluidity and they have a 3 gear wear the string 5-6 passes together within a span of 10s..hence why they are so successful...Mikel is necessary because of his ability to cut out passing lanes and win the ball in the middle and he plays good forward passes to advancing cole and bos..+I think Busquet passing is more precise and faster then Mikel.Plus i am not sure if this is true but from the couple of games i seen Busquet does more forward passing then sideways and backward passing that Mikel does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 A class game. I liked the urgency and tempo of our play. The only one who kept Leverkusen at bay was their goalkeeper (Leiva?), what a class young goalie, unbelievable confidence. Mata was our best player imo, what a guy he is... EXACTLY the kind of player we've been missing past few seasons. And I was surprised that Terry and Lampard got rested, but I'm glad it worked out and that this team brought victory to AVB's debut. AVB certainly isn't afraid to take risks, experiment and rotate. Last season it would've been unthinkable not to play Terry and Lamps in a CL game. Sturridge was also sharp as always, only their goalie stopped him from scoring. Torres had 2 assists and a big applause to him for that. And David Luiz... man, what a player he is... Came from defence and scored a goal, his technical ability for a CB is immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 there shouldnt be ANY moans ,,,every player turned in at least a decent performance I disagree!Kalou was shite! It was like he wasn't even there ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Oh and i think the turning point for Torres in this game was when he stop being in a rush to score goals. If he makes spaces, and does assist, is much better then nothing. Best way to get out of this slump is to show people that you don't think just for yourself, are not selfish and care more about the team.Well done Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I think Busquet passing is more precise and faster then Mikel.Plus i am not sure if this is true but from the couple of games i seen Busquet does more forward passing then sideways and backward passing that Mikel does.but sergio is a more mobile CDM then Mikel and his instructions are alot different as well as our team doesn't play technically in close spaces like barca..he fits their system where as mikel is still my first choice in cdm because he also covers our ass in the back when our voyaging CB fly up the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 but sergio is a more mobile CDM then Mikel and his instructions are alot different as well as our team doesn't play technically in close spaces like barca..he fits their system where as mikel is still my first choice in cdm because he also covers our ass in the back when our voyaging CB fly up the pitchYeah this is true.I wonder if it's because of this, he does not go more out attack like Essien does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Well done torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 but sergio is a more mobile CDM then Mikel and his instructions are alot different as well as our team doesn't play technically in close spaces like barca..he fits their system where as mikel is still my first choice in cdm because he also covers our ass in the back when our voyaging CB fly up the pitchPlI think Busquet passing is more precise and faster then Mikel.Plus i am not sure if this is true but from the couple of games i seen Busquet does more forward passing then sideways and backward passing that Mikel does.Have you seen how Mikel makes the next move for his teammate.Busquets also passes backward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Yeah this is true.I wonder if it's because of this, he does not go more out attack like Essien does.thats exactly it Mikel can slot back as a comfortable CB good on the ball and in the air..as long as we play david luiz or terry on some occasions..a player like obi is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Oh and i think the turning point for Torres in this game was when he stop being in a rush to score goals.If he makes spaces, and does assist, is much better then nothing.Best way to get out of this slump is to show people that you don't think just for yourself, are not selfish and care more about the team.Well done Torres.The turning point was not being subbed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Speaking of Davd Luiz its pathetic the amount of stick he gets for rash challenges, yes he makes a few but Vidic makes more rash challenges but gets widely regarded as the best defender in the league its pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I thought Luiz was really brilliant, but it would have 100% risky if he had done that seage of possession against a bigger team like Man United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 The media really do get on my nerves. The Sun already have an article up calling Torres a flop in one line, and on the next talk about how he set up both goals. But it's only mentioned in passing as if it was nothing. Not so much a mention of his all round good performance and three very close efforts in the first ten minutes. I don't like any articles to centre on one particular player. But if they do insist on writing about one player all the time, then at least give him some credit where and when it's due.Edit: Happy with the performance for the most part. More entertaining than any of our EPL games so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Speaking of Davd Luiz its pathetic the amount of stick he gets for rash challenges, yes he makes a few but Vidic makes more rash challenges but gets widely regarded as the best defender in the league its pathetic.Vidic is the best defender in rugby league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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