manco 38 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hey all I'm new here...I have to say that something I've been complaining about for the last few years is the way that Kalou and Mikel still exist in our squad.I think Ramires is not always worth a starting lineup position, but at least he makes an effort.These 2 idiots just drive me nuts when I see them. I don't think AVB is blind so what's going on?I would put Sturridge instead of Kalou anyway, he really not anything special...can't they loan himto some team?And as for Mikel, words fail me. This guy was responsible for at least 30% of the goals we conceded last season,and yet he still plays for us. I don't see why we can't but a decent DMC (since Essien is out), such as Las Diarra or some other skilled butcher...And something else - When Piazon arrives we will have him, Lamps, Josh Mc and Mata all on the same spot.Not so wise I guess...Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Oh not another Kalou thread And Mata is a left winger/attacking mid... Him and Lampard played together against Norwich, so they aren't on the same spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Great. Yet another thread with the same repetitive jibber jabber.The 'search' function is the least used function on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It's the same elswhere on another forums, the Kalou case is omnipresent in minds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It’s like groundhog day on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manco 38 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 I think that in my case it's more a Mikel thread, but hey...I just wanted a welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlett 202 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Mikel is one of our best and most consistent performers imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manco 38 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Mikel is one of our best and most consistent performers imo.Dude you must be joking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I just wanted a welcome Welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 People who hate on Mikel don't understand his role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manco 38 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 People who hate on Mikel don't understand his role.I don't think that in any role it's good to lose the ball and not mark your player 80 percent of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Where do I start?Piazon is 17 yo and will probably be loaned out in jan and won't get a single appearance in a chelsea shirt for at least for a year.Mikel is our best passer, one of our more consistent players, and the player that sets our tempo. If you know football you've got to realize that imo.Mata is a winger he can play with Lampard and so can McCheacran.Kalou, just look around the forum I'm sure you'll find at least 10 threads on the topic....join the club.I don't mean to be harsh, especially that you're new here...It's just that I don't agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Do you watch Chelsea FC ? Mikel has the highest pass succession rate in the league and he is an important player for us. I would much rather have the tactically aware Mikel then the brainless chasing Lassana Diarra ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manco 38 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 OK guys...Mikel might be playing OK for the last 2 games, but last season he was terrible...I know other ppl saying the same, I don't think I'm blind I wish he was that good, would make life easier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Welcome to the forum.The Kalou argument is an old one but I have to disagree about Mikel - although he does sometimes frustrate me. His discipline is the reason why other players are allowed to shine, as far as I'm concerned this team would be a lot more vulnerable defensively without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Mikel is our best passerOk, Mikel is a decent passer, but it's an overestimation saying he is our best passer. Most of his passes are sideways or low-risk short passes, he doesn't often attempt long-range passes. In terms of accuracy and vision I think Lampard and McEachran surpass him. I'm pretty sure Mata and Meireles won't disappoint either, with those 2 we have signed formidable passers and I think they are better than Mikel in that department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manco 38 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Well all I can say is that closely looking at many of the goals we conceded last season, he miss-marked the goalscorer...And it happened to much. Him and Ramires together is too much IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 And as for Mikel, words fail me. This guy was responsible for at least 30% of the goals we conceded last season,and yet he still plays for us. I don't see why we can't but a decent DMC (since Essien is out), such asLas Diarra or some other skilled butcher...Thoughts?I now think I've been hard on people who have criticized Mikel in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 And it happened to much. Him and Ramires together is too much IMOAlthough i disagree with your opening post on Mikel, this is spot on.... they should not play together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Ok, Mikel is a decent passer, but it's an overestimation saying he is our best passer. Most of his passes are sideways or low-risk short passes, he doesn't often attempt long-range passes. In terms of accuracy and vision I think Lampard and McEachran surpass him. I'm pretty sure Mata and Meireles won't disappoint either, with those 2 we have signed formidable passers and I think they are better than Mikel in that department.I agree. I meant statistically. But tactically his short side-ways passing is very important to setting the tempo and breaking down enemy defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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