Juan Mata

[Rmpr 8,977]

Mata has proved for 2 seasons he's our best playmaker. Come end of the season if Oscar is playing at a level even remotely close to Mata in previous seasons, then i can entertain a different idea.

Also Oscar's pass was intercepted, only for Hazard to steal the ball due to a bad touch. Nevertheless an assist on the counter is not the same as when the opposition have everyone back. Oscar is decent/good at this, Mata is at a level close to Master Ozil.

It doesnt fucking matter what Mata did before, it matters what he was doing at the begining of the season (when Jose benched him).

Juan was unfit and wasnt being able to play at a high level, while Oscar was bossing and being the best player of our team. That is enough for Jose to play Oscar and that was what he did. End of story!

Our team has problems and we are adpating, but just because Mata was benched people have the misconception he would fix everything. But guess what? He played and we still had the same exact problems...

[Sheva. 5,373]

It doesnt fucking matter what Mata did before, it matters what he was doing at the begining of the season (when Jose benched him).

Juan was unfit and wasnt being able to play at a high level, while Oscar was bossing and being the best player of our team. That is enough for Jose to play Oscar and that was what he did. End of story!

Our team has problems and we are adpating, but just because Mata was benched people have the misconception he would fix everything. But guess what? He played and we still had the same exact problems...

Yes it does. Just like in a reverse situation, it matters what Torres has done before, because we can never fully trust him.

Anyway, Mata played 4 straight games, and you made your post immediately he had a bad game to try to prove a point. No mention for how Oscar was just as anonymous against Spurs and Steaua, as Mata was against Norwich.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Yes it does. Just like in a reverse situation, it matters what Torres has done before, because we can never fully trust him.

Has it? Because Jose played him quite a lot for someone who he cant trust...

Anyway, Mata played 4 straight games, and you made your post immediately he had a bad game. Not to mention Oscar was just as anonymous against Spurs and Steaua, as Mata was against Norwich.

Oscar was really bad against Spurs, but he was better against Steaua than Mata was against Villa and Norwich...But that isnt the point!

The point is that people must stop moaning about everything with no reason.

Mata didnt deserve to start the first few games of the season and he didnt, yet, you all made a huge fuss about it. Now it is with KDB, who hasnt shown much but people are still complaining.Who will be the next?

The good thing about Jose is that he plays who is better atm, without taking into consideration his emotions nor the player's history. That happened with the Mata vs Oscar situation, it will continue to happen with other players throughout the season and I will continue to defend it.

Mata now is playing well, so he deserves to be kept in the starting eleven, but back then he wasnt. And I only posted my criticism to show how Juan wont solve all our problems as most think, nothing more than that.

If Oscar plays two-three bad games like Mata did, I will be the first to ask him to be benched, believe me!

EDIT: For instance, Jose benched Kaka in 2010 after just one year at Real in order to give Ozil (who was nobody at the time) game time because he was playing better. It is the same thing...

EDIT 2: With the difference Kaka didnt respond well to it and Mata did. Which is why Mata has returned to Mourinho's team and Kaka didnt.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Has it? Because Jose played him quite a lot for someone who he cant trust...

I meant the fans really, new managers will always give players another chance.

As for the second part of your post - i agree mostly, and i did not have a problem with Mata on the bench the first few games. My problem was he didn't get a fair chance to prove his worth - he started 1 game against Villa after injury and no preseason, it wasn't a surprise he didn't play well.

Then after that he was left on the bench for Man utd and Bayern. All of a sudden he's back in the team against Everton, but a long time after he had last played (international break also factored), and he had a so-so game.

Now he's back in the team because he finally got some consistent minutes. He isn't going to play well every game, he didn't even do that last season when he was generally amazing, because some games are just too physical for him, but he will play well - for the most part - to 'earn' his place in the team.

[Jase 43,479]

In Spanish and English.

[NishC300 1,865]

Hangout with Mata!

[NishC300 1,865]

In Spanish and English.

Beaten to it again!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On best day, there is no better playmaker than Ozil or Mata.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

On best day, there is no better playmaker than Ozil or Mata.

Iniesta?

[Jase 43,479]

Beaten to it again!

That's why I'm a forum staff and you're not.

Seriously though, was rather random to suddenly see Mata's sister and his Spanish pal Adrian Lopez participating in the hangout!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Iniesta?

Stats wise not.

[didierforever 7,349]

Iniesta?

i am not sure what exactly is iniesta's best attribute, his passing, his vision, his dribbling, his understanding of the game... he is a different class altogether.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Stats wise not.

Since when did stats become more important than evrything else?

[The_Flash 1,144]

Stats mean not a lot, we could be the first club to win the league scoring goals and none were scored by our strikers , lol

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Since when did stats become more important than evrything else?

Creating goals and scoring them is best INDIVIDUAL skill for CAM. And in this department, ozil and mata have no competition. When comes to winning trophies, stats matter little, but as individual, they matter a lot. Also Iniesta wouldnt be that effective outside Barca most probably. Very good, but not that good.

[Jase 43,479]

I know stats and numbers are a nice way to value and judge a player but to just use that alone to form conclusions about a player is extremely myopic. Quantitative is good but you can't leave out the qualitative analysis either.

[mac.bo 48]

Mata's goals&assists should be noted by Jose , We should building our team around him !

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Creating goals and scoring them is best INDIVIDUAL skill for CAM. And in this department, ozil and mata have no competition. When comes to winning trophies, stats matter little, but as individual, they matter a lot. Also Iniesta wouldnt be that effective outside Barca most probably. Very good, but not that good.

I gotta disagree...