Romelu Lukaku

[didierforever 7,349]

Have you just been turning a blind eye to what he's been saying over the last few weeks? He said it himself mate. Have you completely ignored this? People are not imagining things when they say Romelu wants to leave.

He said this just before the WC:

Right there from the horses mouth.

And also, I don't know why you are trying to reinforce to me that Lukaku would be useful to us. I've said countless of times in this thread that ideally, Romelu would be great as our number two option - but the problem clearly is that he wants to go. I feel like I'm repeating myself because you just won't accept that.

I find it incredible how anyone would think that selling Lukaku can somehow lead to Jose getting sacked? How does selling Romelu even equal to us definitely not winning the PL? How did you even come up with that hypothesis? Ifs and buts... I can equally say to you, what if Diego Costa scores 10 goals in his first 5 games and stays completely injury free and on form for the whole season thus severely limiting Romelu's overall chances... Do you think Romelu will be happy with that and think, "Yeah, let me sign a new contract now"? That's just a naive way of thinking about it.

I'm repeating myself - but you know what would be for the betterment of the club? Selling a player that doesn't want to be here at the right time, instead of running his contract down to one year thus severely reducing his value and leaving all the power in the players hands. Then use that money to reinvest into someone who does want to be here. Simple.

I don't think you'll ever see it that way though.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2646047/Romelu-Lukaku-insists-wants-stay-Chelsea-despite-uncertainty.html

how strange!!! he evsaid that he wants to stay!!! and then he goes and changes his twitter bio just YESTERDAY!!!! he said this on 2nd june... right before the WC started.. right from the horses MOUTH!!!!

how anyone thinks that lukaku being sold CAN lead to jose has already being described. lukaku selling equals to us having torres and DD/remy/emenike/bamford as the 2nd striker. that is equal to us STILL having the striker problems. every striker goes thru a lean spell as will costa at some point of the season. at that time, we wont have a good back-up just like last season and then drop points, just like last season. you go into the season thinking of REALISTIC situation. costa scoring 10 goals in 5 games is not a situation JOSE would be expecting or getting us prepared from. for a season we will ATLEAST 2 goalscorers (plus torres). thats a realistic situation.

tell me who wants to be here and who u would buy with that money and how exactly will be better for us? remmy? eminike? who exactly are we talking about? who would be our 2nd striker? SAF kept CR against his will, he ended up winning them the PL! sometimes u have to make exceptions and this definitely is one of those times. its easy saying SIMPLE. but its not fifa where a player says "i want to leave" and u transfer list. right now, the better thing for the club to do will be taking a risk with a 21 year old lukaku, if it pays off, we have a striker for the next 10 years, if not, we can buy some decent back-up striker next year rather than making the same mistake we made with BA.

[didierforever 7,349]

I've noticed a theme to your posts. You like to question things, that's fine. But a post such as this is simply either:

A. Questioning something while being completely ignorant of the realities of the situation.

or

B. Questioning something just for the sake of questioning something in a vain attempt to be different/controversial.

You can't deny that it is very clear from what Lukaku has said to the media that he isn't 100% happy here and seems to have a sense of entitlement. And that's fine, as long as it is kept private. However, going to the media to air his grievances like he has done so many times is basically a death sentence under Mourinho.

Therefore, the 'betterment of the club' this season, as you say, is to not have a single 'bad apple' in the group (especially in the eyes of the manager). The manager needs to be 100% sure that everyone is pulling in the same direction. Mourinho cannot be sure with Lukaku, so unless we see a miraculous change in attitude (accepting his position as no.2) the best thing 'for the club' is to move him on for the biggest price possible, as soon as possible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2646047/Romelu-Lukaku-insists-wants-stay-Chelsea-despite-uncertainty.html

and he goes and changes his twitter bio to chelsea just YESTERDAY.

now lets take the scenario of the "best thing for the club" from your perspective. we sell lukaku. for 25mil. YAY!! buy who? remy? emineke? or keep torres as our second striker? how does that solve our striker problems? or am i supposed to believe that costa will have a 25-30 goal season in his first season and everything will be just peachy? how does selling him improve us as a squad/team?

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Everton closing in on a deal to sign Romelu Lukaku from Chelsea

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/10977699/Everton-closing-in-on-a-deal-to-sign-Romelu-Lukaku-from-Chelsea.html

Romelu Lukaku could rejoin Everton on permanent deal in the next 48 hours

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2697756/Romelu-Lukaku-rejoin-Everton-permanent-deal-48-hours.html#ixzz37v1wgSeY

Romelu Lukaku snubs Tottenham interest to agree surprise Everton transfer

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/19/romelu-lukaku-snubs-tottenham-interest-to-agree-surprise-everton-transfer-4803547/

[didierforever 7,349]

telegraph, dailymail and metro!!! not a word from bbc or sky!!! i get it!!

[Stats 7,059]

He's earned a chance to fight for a spot here. That's it. In fact he had that chance last season and received chances but then asked to leave.

Lukaku has not proven anything at this club yet. All he's shown is that he can score 15 goals at a mid-table club. Great.

So did Demba Ba.

So did Grant Holt.

So did Clint Dempsey.

So did DJ Campbell.

So did Peter Odemwingie.

So did Darren Bent.

So did Gabriel Agbonlahor.

So did Kevin Davies.

So did Benjani.

So did Mark Viduka.

So did Marlon Harewood.

So did Juan Pablo Angel.

So did Yakubu.

Your firm point makes no sense because I'm not disputing Mourinho let him leave. Mourinho would probably let any player who requested a transfer in the bitch fashion Lukaku did leave. Do you know why?

Because quitting like that is a bitch move. Can you name one other player who Mourinho has kept around after he requested a transfer because there was too much competition for his spot?

OK. I agree with the fact he wants to leave and why I think it would be a bad idea selling him I also see the other hand if he wants to leave and we want to get a lot of money before his value decreases but I don't agree with statements such as he "made a bitch move by quitting". Like yeah he could have stayed but he is ambitious and wanted to be starting every week. I just say that is a player who is eager to play football. I won't call him a coward or a bitch for that reason but yeah I agree if he stayed he probably would have got a lot of starts last season due to the inconsistencies of our strikers.

I mean look at pastures new. I know Mourinho would rather players who want to stay here but for the benefit of the club and perhaps even player I would rather Mourinho just come out and state he wants him as part of our squad next seson and he sees him playing a key role. That is the vote of confidence he needs. It might initially annoy him but once he realises he is playing for a team competing for major honours he might just acknowledge the position he is at.

I can't say for sure but some sources like the one I seen on this thread earlier state Lukaku never received any sort of call during his loan spell. He feels a bit outcasted imo not just because he feels he won't be no.1 but also because he is not feeling like he is wanted. As much as he talks to the media we should remember that he is still a young boy.

I would rather a solution where we state he is staying. He will get his games this season and once the season finishes he might just reflect that he is not always a starter but he is getting games at one of the best teams in Europe. If he gets a vot of confidence as explained above I think that would be best for all parties concerned because we are in a position where with out current strikers, we don't need to look for another one imo. But that all changes once Lukaku leaves and what I think Lukaku, fans and the board need to realise all together is that even if he is not undisputed striker for the next season or 2 I still think he remains the future of this club.

[The Mak 4,459]

and he goes and changes his twitter bio to chelsea just YESTERDAY.

Maybe because he is still a Chelsea player? This is irrelevant compared to what he has said most recently.

You do not seem to fully understand my perspective. Let me be clear:

now lets take the scenario of the "best thing for the club" from your perspective. we sell lukaku. for 25mil. YAY!!

If Lukaku leaves, for whatever fee, there is obviously some want for the player to leave himself. Otherwise he would simply say 'No, I want to fight for my place/be the future of this club' and sign a new contract. So let's get that straight.

buy who? remy? emineke? or keep torres as our second striker?

It will not matter who, as long as they accept their role as no.2 and do not try to create discontent it would be more progressive than having someone who sulks when he isn't picked. Chelsea will always attract good talent anyway.

how does that solve our striker problems?....how does selling him improve us as a squad/team?

You are confusing problems. Our main problem was not having a competent no.1 striker, that has been solved (most likely). Our current problem is Lukaku, a striker who isn't happy in his role.

Remember how terrible it was to have Torres moaning at every opportunity, blaming his shit performances on everyone and everything (including his teammates)? Remember how shit that was? Well that will happen again if we just go into this season 'hoping' Lukaku is fine with the situation. It has to be sorted beforehand.

No mate, the harsh reality is that Lukaku has basically talked himself into a corner where he has two simple options:

1) Accept being no.2, sign a new contract and be patient.

2) Be sold.

Right now, he is taking option 2 unless he decides otherwise.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Wow, calm down people..

[The Skipper 20,593]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2646047/Romelu-Lukaku-insists-wants-stay-Chelsea-despite-uncertainty.html

how strange!!! he evsaid that he wants to stay!!! and then he goes and changes his twitter bio just YESTERDAY!!!! he said this on 2nd june... right before the WC started.. right from the horses MOUTH!!!!

how anyone thinks that lukaku being sold CAN lead to jose has already being described. lukaku selling equals to us having torres and DD/remy/emenike/bamford as the 2nd striker. that is equal to us STILL having the striker problems. every striker goes thru a lean spell as will costa at some point of the season. at that time, we wont have a good back-up just like last season and then drop points, just like last season. you go into the season thinking of REALISTIC situation. costa scoring 10 goals in 5 games is not a situation JOSE would be expecting or getting us prepared from. for a season we will ATLEAST 2 goalscorers (plus torres). thats a realistic situation.

tell me who wants to be here and who u would buy with that money and how exactly will be better for us? remmy? eminike? who exactly are we talking about? who would be our 2nd striker? SAF kept CR against his will, he ended up winning them the PL! sometimes u have to make exceptions and this definitely is one of those times. its easy saying SIMPLE. but its not fifa where a player says "i want to leave" and u transfer list. right now, the better thing for the club to do will be taking a risk with a 21 year old lukaku, if it pays off, we have a striker for the next 10 years, if not, we can buy some decent back-up striker next year rather than making the same mistake we made with BA.

I ask once again... Have you just been ignoring everything in the past few weeks? It feels like you're very out of the loop on the Lukaku situation... He once again changed his mind on the situation. Here is what he said on the 7th of July:

And the Belgium forward , who has been linked with clubs all over Europe, said: What I dont want is to be loaned out.

I am 21 and I have been loaned for the last two seasons. Thibaut Courtois was loaned for three seasons and will be without doubt the first-choice Chelsea goalkeeper.

And Kevin De Bruyne has been transferred permanently to Wolfsburg. They are free in their heads - it is not my case. That would free me totally.

And the Belgian said he wants to model his progress on Argentinas goalscorer in the quarter-finals - former Real Madrid and now Napoli forward Gonzalo Higuain.

I dont know - there are several clubs that are interested, he said.

I need to make a good decision to reach the absolute top so that I can score a goal like Higuain against us. It is a dream for every attacker.

Higuain has evolved slowly into becoming a top player. I want to show what I can do and play in the Champions League with a big club.

The decision will soon be taken. I have some ideas but we will have to see what is best for the clubs. I dont want to negotiate before the clubs have come to an agreement.

Again, how does that signify to you that he's made his mind up and decided that he wants to stay at the club? You're being very selective in your Lukaku thought process.

You're saying that we should think about going into next season with realistic situations? How realistic do you think it is Jose wants to keep a guy that doesn't want to be here? Until I see concrete evidence that he wants to stay this is the current, realistic situation (sorry, him changing his twitter bio doesn't cut it). How realistic do you think it is the club won't sell a guy that doesn't want to be here when he can as of right now fetch us ~£25m, rather than selling him for £10-15m less next year?

I'm actually laughing here in regards to your CR7 analogy with Lukaku. How can you even compare the situations? What has Lukaku done for CFC for you to even compare the situations? Ronaldo was United's main player, Lukaku hasn't ever played any significant role here at CFC. You're basically trying to insinuate how Lukaku could be the difference between us winning a PL and not. That's ludicrous, sorry. It's incredible how you've already put him on a C. Ronaldo pedestal when he's done NOTHING at this club. And don't even bring Sturridge into this analogy because Sturridge actually played out of position, scored goals and was a key player under AVB here at CFC. Sturridge situation had to do with managerial instability at the club here. Lukaku hasn't done anything at CFC to even deserve this sort of pedestal you've put him on.

You're saying that we should take a risk on a 21 year old that doesn't even want to be here, that'll probably just open his mouth again and disrupt the atmosphere at the club... That'll probably angle for a transfer as soon as he can again. Sorry I just don't see how that is for the betterment of CFC. Unless he's willing to accept a role here as second choice it's much better if we cash in on him right now.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Which paper talked about a 18m fee?

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Um, why? What has Lukaku actually done in a Chelsea shirt?

He should definitely get a chance to fight for a spot, and HE GOT THAT LAST YEAR BUT ASKED TO LEAVE.

One more time for the people asleep at the back of the class.

HE RECEIVED A CHANCE AT THIS CLUB AND ASKED TO LEAVE.

Now someone convince me that Jose will respect that attitude. That's Jose Mourinho. This guy

When he got the chance?

[LAM09 6,792]

Lukaku to Everton rumours seem to be hotting up.

Surely they can't afford to buy him?

[bababoom 4,478]

I personally wouldn't care at all if we sold him, he's good but imo he has too many flaws in his game to ever be great. It's alright scoring goals for West Brom and Everton, but when he plays for a top side he'll struggle IMO, 70 percent of the time teams sit back and as we know Lukaku looks like a headless chicken when he has no space to run into.

On top of all that, he's a cunt as well, just watch Luis' interview and compare his attitude to Lukaku'... Luis is arguably one of the best LBs in the game right now and he still wants to improve be more 'complete', whereas the 'humble' 21 year old thinks he's already the complete package, he's a fucking joke.

[Peace. 4,352]

Therefore, the 'betterment of the club' this season, as you say, is to not have a single 'bad apple' in the group (especially in the eyes of the manager). The manager needs to be 100% sure that everyone is pulling in the same direction. Mourinho cannot be sure with Lukaku, so unless we see a miraculous change in attitude (accepting his position as no.2) the best thing 'for the club' is to move him on for the biggest price possible, as soon as possible.

You are right in what you are saying. Keeping Lukaku in this situation, does not necessarily consist in being a "betterment" for the club, at all ; and it could be quite the contrary.

When a player's head is off, then it is pretty much a lost cause. It takes a player to be an excellent professional in order to give near 100% in this kind of context ; and he will never 100%, consciously or not.

Now, these past three seasons, we have witnessed how much Lukaku is professional ; and humble. Firstly he vividly criticized André Villas-Boas for not playing — it is classy to shot on a dead man walking... And to be honest, in regards of the situation, giving Lukaku playing-time was certainly one of the last priorities at that time (especially since he was absolutely dreadful when playing). Then, when having to face to competition of the Wonder-Horse and the 45 years-old Eto'o — people like to include Ba, but the truth is that he would have been sold or loaned, had Lukaku stayed —, he opted for the easy way and to go out on loan. Finally, he told the world that "clubs are interested in me", and pretentiously "Chelsea know my point of view".

How it will fare when he will realise that the complete striker that he is will be the second choice, at best, by a fine margin, and will have to fight for game time against the Wonder-Horse, the one and only Ladyboy ?

Mourinho seeks from each of his players to give everything they have. I say Mourinho, but it is how modern football works. It happens that Lukaku does not really take part to the collective effort of his team-mate ; every time I saw him play, he was just strolling around the pitch awaiting for someone to put him through the goal. This kind of attitude does not go well with the ambitions we have.

So basically, we have on our hands a player : that does not really intend to fight for his place and who is eyeing for a move away from us ; that as the tendency to bitch when he is not pampered and denied the starting position ; that seems to bigger himself and feels he is as big as the club, as he pretentiously said "Chelsea knows my point of view" (who the hell does he thinks he is to say such a thing ?) ; that does feel like working hard for the team.

When you put all these variables all together, it seems more likely that keeping him will result as having a dead weight than having a "betterment" for our squad.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Rumour said Morata have a medical at Juve, and now Real want Falcao and Lukaku

[iseah100 5,612]

Rumour said Morata have a medical at Juve, and now Real want Falcao and Lukaku

Awesome, maybe they'll pay us like £45m for Lukaku. As long as we say no a few times haha.

[Chelsea? 892]

You don't GET chances.You EARN them.

He didn't think he'd get a FAIR chance. how is scoring more goals than Torres and Ba in WBA the year before not deserving of a chance?

[iseah100 5,612]

He didn't think he'd get a FAIR chance. how is scoring more goals than Torres and Ba in WBA the year before not deserving of a chance?

HE MISSED A PENALTY!

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

When Lukaku got a fair chance?