Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[Kojo 4,676]

20 goals bit optmstic

And just be picking people from the crowd to be our manager..gone through a fair few by then...walk through the door 'yep your in!'

20 goals i must be dreaming, well i think it's fair to say we will at least see him score 3 more in the next 10 years. True anyone will be manager, but after those 10 years i think Roman will find the right guy, Heskey, believe it or not when he retires on football manager he becomes one hell of a manager.

[Henrique 9,133]

Exactly and thats our problem.While teams are deciding on who they're signing we seem to spend half of summer finding a manager who comes in has hardly any time to judge the team,decides what they see is fine and nothing changes! And if we sack AVB no doubt same thing will happen...and agree we'll be stuck with the same squad..and no doubt come summer after if we havent been great..sack again

If we win on Saturday..come the 19th we'll be a point better then we were this time last season and a place better offf.. But we'd lost 7 games by that time..and so far only lost 5..or 6 if we fuck up tommrow...hurrah!

Its not AVB that is doing the changes.

AVB only do what they say he must do, thats been this way since Roman bought the team.

Lot of people still dont understand how this work. Chelsea is a club that have its own politic. If AVB is trying to refresh the squad its not because he is very smart and he decided to do the changes, Its because THE CLUB decided that players like Drogba and Lampard are not anymore in the long term project.

Its pretty clear that Chelsea has a long term project that has nothing to do with managers. Thats why Lukaku, de Bruyne, Piazon and players like that arrived and werent AVB or any other manager's choices, and thats why Ballack and Joe Cole left. Carlo Ancelotti did not ask then to leave, but the club decided it was time for farewell.

So it can be AVB, Fabio Capello, Rafa Benitez, it doesnt matter. The club is trying to refresh the squad, AVB's job is the motivation, tactics, formation and subs. And he is doing it fucking wrong.

[Idiot 71]

Its not AVB that is doing the changes.

AVB only do what they say he must do, thats been this way since Roman bought the team.

Lot of people still dont understand how this work. Chelsea is a club that have its own politic. If AVB is trying to refresh the squad its not because he is very smart and he decided to do the changes, Its because THE CLUB decided that players like Drogba and Lampard are not anymore in the long term project.

Its pretty clear that Chelsea has a long term project that has nothing to do with managers. Thats why Lukaku, de Bruyne, Piazon and players like that arrived and werent AVB or any other manager's choices, and thats why Ballack and Joe Cole left. Carlo Ancelotti did not ask then to leave, but the club decided it was time for farewell.

So it can be AVB, Fabio Capello, Rafa Benitez, it doesnt matter. The club is trying to refresh the squad, AVB's job is the motivation, tactics, formation and subs. And he is doing it fucking wrong.

Amazing how much you know about the club. If there's a new raid for a manager in the summer you should try to get the job. You know how it works at the club so you should be able to cope with it. Lead us to Glory Henrique

[Henrique 9,133]

Amazing who much you know about the club. If there's a new raid for a manager in the summer you should try to get the job. You know how it works at the club so you should be able to cope with it. Lead us to Glory Henrique

Your username is perfect to drescribe yourself. You dont need to be very smart to realize how things works at Chelsea, you only need to see the evidences in last 7 or 8 years.

[eldo 868]

Its not AVB that is doing the changes.

AVB only do what they say he must do, thats been this way since Roman bought the team.

Lot of people still dont understand how this work. Chelsea is a club that have its own politic. If AVB is trying to refresh the squad its not because he is very smart and he decided to do the changes, Its because THE CLUB decided that players like Drogba and Lampard are not anymore in the long term project.

Its pretty clear that Chelsea has a long term project that has nothing to do with managers. Thats why Lukaku, de Bruyne, Piazon and players like that arrived and werent AVB or any other manager's choices, and thats why Ballack and Joe Cole left. Carlo Ancelotti did not ask then to leave, but the club decided it was time for farewell.

So it can be AVB, Fabio Capello, Rafa Benitez, it doesnt matter. The club is trying to refresh the squad, AVB's job is the motivation, tactics, formation and subs. And he is doing it fucking wrong.

So you are ITK.

[Idiot 71]

Your username is perfect to drescribe yourself. You dont need to be very smart to realize how things works at Chelsea, you only need to see the evidences in last 7 or 8 years.

And it is very easy to be pathetic and to throw in some thoughts like they are untouchable. Its quite normal that there are long term targets (like Lukaku) which doesnt depend on the actual manager. But to say he has no influence and that his work is shit is ridiculous. You don't have the oppurtunity to judge him or to say whats going on behind closed doors because you are not involved in the clubs buisness. Possible that you are not totally wrong but even if you are right it is no reason to act as condescending as you do

[manpe 10,861]

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[Henrique 9,133]

And it is very easy to be pathetic and to throw in some thoughts like they are untouchable. Its quite normal that there are long term targets (like Lukaku) which doesnt depend on the actual manager. But to say he has no influence and that his work is shit is ridiculous. You don't have the oppurtunity to judge him or to say whats going on behind closed doors because you are not involved in the clubs buisness. Possible that you are not totally wrong but even if you are right it is no reason to act as condescending as you do

- His work until now is shit.

- I did not said he has no influence, but he has no influence in major decisions, like buying a 50m player or making a overhaul in the squad.

[Kostas 1,468]

Really?

About league points being the only reliable indicator of league performance? Really.

and the pathetic 3-3 draw with United

Might as well throw in the QPR game if you're so desperate for examples.. you've done it before.

Thats no excuse, last season we were 2nd, right now we are 4th.

Another way to look at it is that we finished level with City and only didn't get 3rd due to goal difference and that this season has another 12 games in it to assess our performance.

There is nothing valid in saying we are doing better than last season, because while last season we looked a "strong team in a bad moment", in this season we really look like an avarage side that is only in 4th place because of the Arsenals incopetence.

What a load of generic, biased crap ..

3-1 actually, and it was at the Emirates also with terrible form, i think we were 1-1 at one point, then Essien was at fault for both of the goals after it if i can remember correctly. Still though i'd take that rather than conceding 5 fucking goals at the bridge by those bastards.

Well looks like I'm the one with the denial and the memory problem. I still can't remember the Brana goal.

[Kojo 4,676]

Not that i blame you about not remembering it, infact i wish i could forget it.

But you see that's what liverpool fans do, after every season they just forget about it, they live in there own world, it's there only way to stay hapy.

[eldo 868]

Yes Henrique evidence is clearly there to be seen, because we haven't refreshed that much our squad since 08 final.

This is a joke really. We all know that you don't prefer Andre. But there is no need to write something you clearly can't prove to support you theories. I

[Idiot 71]

- His work until now is shit.

- I did not said he has no influence, but he has no influence in major decisions, like buying a 50m player or making a overhaul in the squad.

You said that he only does what the Club is telling him ---> no influence

The results aren't as good as all of us expect but thats not only his fault and his work is much more than the 90 minutes on the pitch. Actually that is the smallest part of his work.. Don't blame everyone that soon. Right now we hace 43 Points and are still competing in the UCL and the FA Cup. If we compare this with past seasons we aren't that bad. The Problem is that there are teams who play an outstanding season (just in results).

[Henrique 9,133]

You said that he only does what the Club is telling him ---> no influence

The results aren't as good as all of us expect but thats not only his fault and his work is much more than the 90 minutes on the pitch. Actually that is the smallest part of his work.. Don't blame everyone that soon. Right now we hace 43 Points and are still competing in the UCL and the FA Cup. If we compare this with past seasons we aren't that bad. The Problem is that there are teams who play an outstanding season (just in results).

At this stage of the season it would be a disaster if we werent still competing in UCL or in FA. There is nothing special.

[Idiot 71]

At this stage of the season it would be a disaster if we werent still competing in UCL or in FA. There is nothing special.

Stop picking words out of my comment to support your theory. I pointed out that our situation isn't aas bad as you say not that it's an achievement to be in the knock-out stages of the UCL

[Tomo 21,733]

What will it take to convince it is the past it players that are the problem not AVB?

Is it going to take Hiddink or Jose returning and struggling with this squad.

The fact is since the moment we touched down in London from Moscow we should have looked at signing young players to eventully replace the oldies, a 21 year old David Luiz was on the market in 2008 (or was that 2007?), would have saved us millions, who idea was it to sign Deco over a young, hungry Modric?

The clear fact is back in 2008, we were only 2nd in europe behind a Ronaldo inspired United, we were better than Barca and Madrid back then ffs, we should have strengthened when we were on top for all these years and we would probally be just as good as Madrid right not if not better.

Now we all knew the situation when AVB came in, best case scanereo he turned out to be a breath of fresh air and we did a Porto, worst case is not far off what has actually happened, we only have our self's and the board to blame for not building on the squad when we were one of the if not the best team in europe between 2004-2008.

Now were paying the price for not adding and strengthening when we were one of the best in Europe and have been paying for it since 2008 excluding the double season but even if that season it was not all not garden and roses and we had some shocking games (West Ham, Blackburn, Spurs, Villa away, Inter home). Infact the double probably delayed a over-haul, talk about short term gain for long term pain.

This season it can be argued we have taken a step back in terms of displays but while doing it we have signed players who will play a big part in the future, were just have to bite the bullet while this new team gets prudently built bit by bit and if we do end up up there amoungst the best in Europe again, ADD WHEN WERE ON TOP to avoid this happening again.

We have got some problems right now but AVB is amoung the least of our problems right now and what will it take for everyone to realize it? Will it take Jose and Hiddink returning and struggling just as much?

[Kojo 4,676]

AVB isn't a good motivator, at the begining of the season i thought he was something really special, Bosingwa was playing well somehow, Anelka was playing top notch, at the moment he's been terrible. Meireles is a good player, not great, not worldclass, he's a good player, but at the moment he's a poor player, he's off form, we need him to be on form to help the team get points, we have to scrape wins to into top 4, right now it's not going to happen with our team playing bad.

It's a fact quality isn't there, we wont be winning games 4-0 or scoring for fun, we will have to scrape wins, every game is a hard game for us. But Andre has been poor, Ramires is the only good player in midfield, Lampard plays like shite, he should be playing better at least, Meireles is playing even worse he should be playing much better. But even with these players on form we wont be that good anyway, it's not good enough, but that's the thing we need to spend money, right now we can't do it. So we have to rely on Andre to motivate the team and make sure they get the points, we can't rely on other people, it's not going to happen, Van Persie wont get injured he's going to carry Arsenal on scoring his average 2 goals per game, Liverpool are getting better, Kenny has motivated them. Spurs, they just don't look like they are going to drop points at all...

Now we have to rely on ourselves, Andre has to sort the team out with what we have, if we can recall Benayoun back, DO IT!, we need the most help we can get, he might not be great but he can kick out something and help us, he has gotten Arsenal 6 points alone, so he should be able to get us some points. Only thing is i can't see it in Andre, the team play like shit constantly every game, really can't see Andre dragging this team on and getting 3 points every game even if it is scraping it, we are just going to draw most games.

[Tomo 21,733]

AVB isn't a good motivator, at the begining of the season i thought he was something really special, Bosingwa was playing well somehow, Anelka was playing top notch, at the moment he's been terrible.

Malouda was playing well at the start too, is it surprising?

They always do that, play well under a new manager then fade back to old habits, thats why AVB cant get judged till most of them have done one.

[Kojo 4,676]

Malouda was playing well at the start too, is it surprising?

They always do that, play well under a new manager then fade back to old habits, thats why AVB cant get judged till most of them have done one.

Malouda was playing well really?, i can't remember that one...