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1. but he is absolutely right to say Neville is an asshole when he say Luiz is controlled by a 10 years old boy playing a video game, because thats the kind of comment made by an asshole.

2. Terry made a stupid mistake in Balotelli goal and Ive read an article saying he was superb in that match and Ivanovic was poor. Lampard scored a penalty and the media is saying he is back to his old form.

1. Just cus he is brazilian doesnt mean he isnt erratic. Luiz is very rash, and Neville and the media is right when they say that about him. I wouldnt bet my life on Luiz like I did on Carvalho to defend a goal. Hell I would even put Ivanovic ahead of Luiz.

2. So now that Media praises Terry and Lampard we still have a problem with it. It was Ivanovic who decided to turn the wrong way for the Balotelli goal thereby losing few seconds on Balotelli.

We always complain the media doesnt appreciate Chelsea players now that they do, we complain.

Lampard just scored a penalty? Just a Penalty? What the fuck are you on? That takes big balls specially when you have been benched and everyone says you have finished. also the fact that he missed the last penalty. It takes alot of guts to step up and score a winner in the 81st minute. The media is RIGHT to say Lampard is NOT finished. He never was finsihed. It is as ridiculous as your statement when you asked AVB's head when we were losing.

Stop cribbing all the time. Half of you lot crib about media not giving our players their share of plaudits now that they give, we have a problem. :rolleyes:

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1. Just cus he is brazilian doesnt mean he isnt erratic. Luiz is very rash, and Neville and the media is right when they say that about him. I wouldnt bet my life on Luiz like I did on Carvalho to defend a goal. Hell I would even put Ivanovic ahead of Luiz.

Carvalho was hardly invincible either, the amount of free kicks just outside the 18 yard box he gave away as infuritating.

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:) I bet you also think Kalou is better than Robben

stupid post. he is not comparing Luiz with Carvalho, he just said that the argument that Luiz make lot of fouls is not a good one, since Carvalho also used to make that kind of mistakes.

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It is frustrating how eratic Luiz can be but am i the only one who can see he has the ability to be the best CB or DM in the world? NO!

Stop moaning about him for christ sake! At least he is passionate and plays to win every game giving 100% unlike Alex who just does his job these days and not always very well either!

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Tomo is right.

As excellent as Ricky was, he also fouled quite a bit. Never the less, his excellent defensive skills compensated for this. Luiz has all the makings to be a fantastic defender, world-class even! Brazil sees it, André sees it, Carlo saw it.

Don't jump on Tomo because he said it, he wasn't saying Carvalho was rubbish or Luiz is at his level at the moment.

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The difference is Carvalho was world class whereas Luiz barely strikes you as an invincible defender at this moment. However I have great faith he can become a great defensive stalwart for us... Luiz is part of the new breed of centre-backs... forget your Nestas and your Puyols and your Terrys; your no-nonsense, uncompromising style of player. Total football takes precedence and now and Luiz plays how many CBs will soon be expected to.

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Only Liverpool and Manchester United have scored more than once against us in a one off game where Luiz has played (Levekusen aswell but Luiz went off before they scored their goals).

He can't be that bad looking at things like that.

He might have been a bit reckless at times but he isn't the only defender to be so and he hasn't done it nearly as much as some think, i think some here have been far too brainwashed by the media when it comes to Luiz if im being brutally honest.

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If you're referring to my post, I don't think luiz is bad. Nor his positioning (although it is not his greatest attribute to say the least. It's his wild runs that leave gaps, I don't want to see a central defender run into the box while dribbling past 5 men and I frankly don't care if he makes passes that would make iniesta jealous. Take a look around, the best defenders are no-nonsense players who do their job properly. Kompany, Terry, Vidic, Puyol, Pique, etc.

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Here are my two cents on the whole David Luiz discussion. We all know he's brilliant with the ball in his feet, so I'm going to concentrate on his actual defending.

The only thing that kan keep David Luiz from reaching greatness is his brain. Sounds funny, but I honestly believe that if he can improve his decision-making, he has the potential to become one of the best defenders in the world. The fundamentals are there - he has good pace and is nearly unbeatable one against one.

People didn't focus as much on his mistakes last season. I guess the "high block" has just made the errors more noticable. He was excellent against Valencia when the whole team was defending well.

Hopefully, his positional skills and tactical understanding will improve with time. When that happens, we will have a world class defender who is also able to bring the ball forward and can step into midfield when neccessary, like Pique does for Barcelona. Until then, he is a ticking time bomb.

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Here are my two cents on the whole David Luiz discussion. We all know he's brilliant with the ball in his feet, so I'm going to concentrate on his actual defending.

The only thing that kan keep David Luiz from reaching greatness is his brain. Sounds funny, but I honestly believe that if he can improve his decision-making, he has the potential to become one of the best defenders in the world. The fundamentals are there - he has good pace and is nearly unbeatable one against one.

People didn't focus as much on his mistakes last season. I guess the "high block" has just made the errors more noticable. He was excellent against Valencia when the whole team was defending well.

Hopefully, his positional skills and tactical understanding will improve with time. When that happens, we will have a world class defender who is also able to bring the ball forward and can step into midfield when neccessary, like Pique does for Barcelona. Until then, he is a ticking time bomb.

Ill start worrying when we start conceding numerous goals in games he plays in.

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AVB is a tactical full retard of the highest quality. He has a great eye for players (mata, Romeu, etc) but he is a terrible, terrible manager in terms of tactics.

1. High line, this has cost us a lot this season

2. First team selection, why was Torres not started??

3. Subs, why would you fckuking take off Sturridge and put on Malouda, kalou, mikel

His ideal job should be a scout IMO.

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AVB is a tactical full retard of the highest quality. He has a great eye for players (mata, Romeu, etc) but he is a terrible, terrible manager in terms of tactics.

1. High line, this has cost us a lot this season

2. First team selection, why was Torres not started??

3. Subs, why would you fckuking take off Sturridge and put on Malouda, kalou, mikel

His ideal job should be a scout IMO.

1. Can't defend him there, but it's his style of football. This match will show him how better we are with a deep line. It is Roman's wish though to see attacking football.

2. Because he didn't deserve to start. Drogba is was playing well so no point of killing his momentum before the big match against Spuds...

3.

Sturridge sub.

Rest the lad a bit. He has played a lot and this match showed once again how important he is. Malouda was brought in to help the team defensively.

Mikel sub.

Wigan started attacking, we were shite, Mata was bad and I dare you to try playing against an attacking team with 3 attackers on their own stadium without a DM. Send me a PM on how much they scored.

Kalou sub.

I honestly think he should've waited at the half time, but it was AVB's decision to attack. Kalou was the only option and he tried playing Mata in the middle. Torres and Drogba together on the pitch have been woeful in the past and Kalou was motivated.

Don't blame AVB, blame the whole team. They got out there bored and unmotivated.

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AVB is a tactical full retard of the highest quality. He has a great eye for players (mata, Romeu, etc) but he is a terrible, terrible manager in terms of tactics.

1. High line, this has cost us a lot this season

2. First team selection, why was Torres not started??

3. Subs, why would you fckuking take off Sturridge and put on Malouda, kalou, mikel

His ideal job should be a scout IMO.

1. High line wasn't an issue today and in recent games it has been abandoned, irrelevant.

2. Torres' form is dire. Drogba's is good, he was in good form coming into this.

3. Full game on Monday, big game on Tuesday.

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