exactly and the logic goes to the opposite side too. will he become awesome player as expected? but you have to admit rodriguez currently better than him. and he's young too so that a plus well, debating about ricardo and shaw can go on and on. like i said, i just want to make point that bragging about shaw became starter at age 17 doesnt mean that hes better option than ricardo same goes to wilfried zaha, he became key member of palace at the age 17, and he helped bring palace promoted too. look where he is now. oh yeah right forget about moyes