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Yea .

How much did it cost?

I also feel like he would do well. It's so hard to create anything without space.. most oppositions are just closing down, parking the bus waiting for a counter attack. If they're organized then its really really hard, like against Basel. If they're not then its like Fullham. But either way not only Hazard, but the whole team have to learn how to deal with this. Tottenham will give us space though.

feel bad for him

was he good ?

Yea, I know it too.

nope.

Really stepped it up so far. And it's not only because of the 10# role instead of being a winger. He's really been our greatest players so far.. better than Hazard who we all expected would be THE player this season.

The way I look at this whole "Mata should start!!", "KDB should play more!", "Oscar should be in the pivot" etc etc etc. is: At the end of the day, Mou knows what he's doing and he's building the best possible team, and I trust him to do that. So while I might feel bad for Mata, I know that its probably for the best and eventually its all going to be ok, we're going to be a great team. We might have to see some things we dont like, like Iva as a RB, like Mata not playing.. Try to think long-term guys. Mou's here to stay.

He barely ever played for us, what do u expect? I think he likes Chelsea, but it's not like the way Lamps loves Chelsea, obviously. He's young, he's always going on loans and everything so I dont think we can expect anything else from him. I bet Courtois doesn't "love" Chelsea right now, I bet he wouldn't mind playing for Real Madrid. I'd bet some of our other players wont mind either.. And well our players always get a little bit over-hyped, this is a Chelsea forum after all.

Well its not like there's anyone worth crossing to ...

I think he meant Bayern weren't defending deep.

Congratz ! I've witnessed history being made.

Has to be 4-0 .

oh - my - god.

boring as fuck

We win here 6-0 and suddenly the Basel thing doesn't matter anymore. Just hoping for atleast 2-0 and not like 1-0 or 2-1.

I appreciate your opinion.

Yep. We can debate who should be selected all day, but at the end of the day I just want us to win, whether its Mata or Oscar starting.

The question is not who's better, its who's performing better right now. and that is Oscar. As much as I would love to see Mata play, Oscar has been our best player so far and he's doing a great job as a #10 so untill Mata comes in and does better, Oscar should keep starting in the #10 role. The problem though is that Mata needs more than like 40 min to prove himself. He's not the flashy kind of player, he needs a full match and in that full match he'll make a couple of key-passes. Oscar is different though, he dribbles around, he tries to get shots on etc. So that way it looks like he's doing more than Mata, when thats not what it actually is. they're just 2 different players.

We desperately need a win here. And not a 1-0, 2-1 kind of win. We need atleast 2-0, 3-1.. something like that . Ofc a win is a win but 2-0 3-0 would make us forget all about Basel.

So you guys think we would have won tonight if we didn't send Lukaku on loan ? The issue is far beyond that ... unfortunately.

I strongly agree about us not having an identity. we're all over the place, we have no focal point, we have no system, the players look lost. Also I agree about our full-backs, its something I've been saying for a long time now.. Look at Alaba and Lahm at Bayern, or Jordi Alba and Alves at Barca, Carvajal and Marcelo at Real Madrid etc etc.

Sorry but I can't agree with that .. You're basicaly calling Mata an average player, saying the only reason he did well was because of the role he had?

This isn't about "we shouldn't have sent Lukaku on loan" or "We should've used KDB" etc. This is about the team not playing well. This isn't individual, we were bad as a team. Can't put the blame on one player, nor can you put it on Mou. We are not fluid, we don't create enough chances. we're playing wrong. Something is not working, and it will take time and patience to fix it. There are no shortcuts, no quick-fix. I really hope Roman realizes this.