You are wrong. Without Apple, you wouldn't have a graphic user interface on your computer now. You wouldn't be using a mouse. Without iTunes, you wouldn't be able to download music digitally on a mass scale. Oh, and please try and tell me that without the iPhone and the iPad to lead the way, that the market for smartphones/tablet computers would be of the same standard compared to if they were never made? Fair enough, you prefer PC/standard MP3 players and Android phones, whatever your reason for that is, it doesn't matter. Saying that Apple are not innovators, however, is ridiculous.